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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 29 2014 15:17 GMT
#12861
Sabo must have a really nasty scar, maybe half his face was burned
Revolutionist fan
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 29 2014 15:43 GMT
#12862
On January 29 2014 20:03 sc2holar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 19:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I'm expecting it to be something like Kidd's fruit but with rocks instead. Whatever it is, I'm interested to see what he can do. Also Luffy to fight him and Zoro to beat up Doflamingo, yesyes

Dude he clearly shifts and regains a "solid form" after passing through the wall, very much like a logia. He is also much bigger than when we saw him in his "human form" yet he retains the same shape and figure.

it could be a paramecia whivh lets him merge with stuff
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 15:44:44
January 29 2014 15:44 GMT
#12863
About going through walls:
Don't forget the door door fruit of that one CP9 guy. Let's you even traverse air in some kind of alternate dimension.
And there is that scissor person from the revolutionaries okama disco in impel down. S/he would probably destroy the wall though.

As for Logias, we have only seen 2 people even do something remotely like moving through walls:
Enel, traversing gold because it is a conducting material(gold is not lightning, he was NOT traversing his own element).
And Caribou, who pretended to be a puddle or a liquid of other form to not be noticed. I don't think we have confirmation if he can actually traverse liquids with his fruit.

I don't even think that Logia users can traverse their own (solid) element. We have mainly seen nonsolid Logia so far, like fire, sand, light, smoke.
Ice is so far the only solid Logia we've seen. I can't remember Aokiji going inside an ice object and coming out of the other side, ever.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
January 29 2014 15:47 GMT
#12864
You know, since it's a wacky One-Piece world, why can't Pica just be a new sort of monster, kind of like the flying fish? Not everything has to be devil-fruit caused.
darkness overpowering
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 29 2014 15:49 GMT
#12865
also he may just be manipulating the wall and making a "golem" that looks like him and not actually be nearby
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
January 29 2014 16:04 GMT
#12866
oh yeah the fighting fish are also great.
maru lover forever
terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 16:06:32
January 29 2014 16:04 GMT
#12867
On January 29 2014 20:28 Incognoto wrote:
Zoans don't let you traverse walls. Paramecias do, as do Logias if the wall is of the same element as you arE. That's my understanding of it. I think it's Paramecia though I don't really care either way.

They all have weird ass fruits in the DD pirates. I thought Diamante put Haki into the cape but it's actually the dumbest fruit ever. :p




It may be the dumbest fruit ever but I can see it beeing pretty strong. With it I could see him making a sword that acts like the iron cloud sword ohm had.

However strong does not imply that it is still not dumb.
"It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it." - Thomas Sowell
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 29 2014 16:31 GMT
#12868
On January 30 2014 01:04 terranghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 20:28 Incognoto wrote:
Zoans don't let you traverse walls. Paramecias do, as do Logias if the wall is of the same element as you arE. That's my understanding of it. I think it's Paramecia though I don't really care either way.

They all have weird ass fruits in the DD pirates. I thought Diamante put Haki into the cape but it's actually the dumbest fruit ever. :p




It may be the dumbest fruit ever but I can see it beeing pretty strong. With it I could see him making a sword that acts like the iron cloud sword ohm had.

However strong does not imply that it is still not dumb.

can also be used defensively makes melee weapons pretty useless agaisnt him
Chro
Profile Joined May 2010
United States240 Posts
January 29 2014 16:42 GMT
#12869
Flag fruit is OP, he can make any material into clothing. Seastone, metal, and then have it make whatever shape he wants. Franky gets inside his machines, this guy would wear it. If the object keeps is properties then anything on this guy could be a gun or weapon. The roses on his pants could all be shotguns for all we know.

Which makes me think, if DF can use strings to connect anything and this guy can make anything into cloth like material. If they get together can they sew together pretty much anything?

Pica could be anything at this point, oda just made a flag-flag fruit and people want to say what pica is. It could make complete sense or it could be the dumbest thing you've heard of.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
January 29 2014 17:53 GMT
#12870
True! Best part was DD caught off guard! I guess it will happen allot since he underestimated the SH crew
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Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 18:24:35
January 29 2014 18:17 GMT
#12871
On January 29 2014 19:39 sc2holar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 19:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Dunno, this seems more like a paramecia to me.

And damn this is setting up to be super hype

He walked through/transformed out of the wall. Solid-matter paramecias cant usually do that.


To me it seems pretty similar to Senor Pinks fruit
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 29 2014 18:37 GMT
#12872
On January 30 2014 01:42 Chro wrote:
Flag fruit is OP, he can make any material into clothing. Seastone, metal, and then have it make whatever shape he wants. Franky gets inside his machines, this guy would wear it. If the object keeps is properties then anything on this guy could be a gun or weapon. The roses on his pants could all be shotguns for all we know.

Which makes me think, if DF can use strings to connect anything and this guy can make anything into cloth like material. If they get together can they sew together pretty much anything?

Pica could be anything at this point, oda just made a flag-flag fruit and people want to say what pica is. It could make complete sense or it could be the dumbest thing you've heard of.

I highly doubt that would be possible with seastone, since the second he touched it, it would sap his power to turn things into flags.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Chro
Profile Joined May 2010
United States240 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 18:42:30
January 29 2014 18:41 GMT
#12873
Its possible, luffy can still be rubber in water. He punched stuff all the time during the fishman island arc. So maybe he couldn't use it himself, but one of his allies could after it turned to 'flag'.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 29 2014 18:43 GMT
#12874
On January 30 2014 03:41 Chro wrote:
Its possible, luffy can still be rubber in water. He punched stuff all the time during the fishman island arc. So maybe he couldn't use it himself, but one of his allies could after it turned to 'flag'.

We have also seen Seastone instantly drain Luffy's strength when he touches it.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
playnice
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia302 Posts
January 29 2014 18:44 GMT
#12875
On January 30 2014 03:41 Chro wrote:
Its possible, luffy can still be rubber in water. He punched stuff all the time during the fishman island arc. So maybe he couldn't use it himself, but one of his allies could after it turned to 'flag'.

only works when he is touching it
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
January 29 2014 18:48 GMT
#12876
That was such a dissapointing chapter.

Diamante's devil fruit is so bad.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Raneth
Profile Joined December 2009
England527 Posts
January 29 2014 19:14 GMT
#12877
Dayum, left side of sabo's face does indeed look fucked
tom: "dont you mean TWO g keys???" kwark: "nah, i'll probably just press it twice"
Chro
Profile Joined May 2010
United States240 Posts
January 29 2014 19:29 GMT
#12878
On January 30 2014 03:43 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 03:41 Chro wrote:
Its possible, luffy can still be rubber in water. He punched stuff all the time during the fishman island arc. So maybe he couldn't use it himself, but one of his allies could after it turned to 'flag'.

We have also seen Seastone instantly drain Luffy's strength when he touches it.


That was pre-time skip, i think people with more training can somewhat struggle before becoming powerless. Aokiji can put his hands in water and freeze it. Hell, brook can run on water so just touching it isn't an issue. He should be able to make seastone flat with his power and once hes done it would stay that way but solid.
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
January 29 2014 19:35 GMT
#12879
On punk hazard Luffy and Tashigi (In smokers body) where imprisoned with seastone cages and handcuffs I believe and didn't seem bothered at all. Then again when Luffy tried to break through out of the Colosseum he lost all his strength from touching the seastone bars so idk.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 29 2014 19:39 GMT
#12880
On January 30 2014 04:29 Chro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 03:43 Sentenal wrote:
On January 30 2014 03:41 Chro wrote:
Its possible, luffy can still be rubber in water. He punched stuff all the time during the fishman island arc. So maybe he couldn't use it himself, but one of his allies could after it turned to 'flag'.

We have also seen Seastone instantly drain Luffy's strength when he touches it.


That was pre-time skip, i think people with more training can somewhat struggle before becoming powerless. Aokiji can put his hands in water and freeze it. Hell, brook can run on water so just touching it isn't an issue. He should be able to make seastone flat with his power and once hes done it would stay that way but solid.

We aren't talking about water. We are talking about seastone, which is a condensed mass of the "sea". Its entirely different from sticking your hand into water or running on top of it. Oda already answered how different levels of submersion in water affects Devil Fruit users, and we have also seen Devil Fruit users instantly lose their strength when lightly touching it. Your "well that was pre-time skip" response is a Forikorder level of argumentation.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
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