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On January 29 2014 20:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 20:03 sc2holar wrote:On January 29 2014 19:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I'm expecting it to be something like Kidd's fruit but with rocks instead. Whatever it is, I'm interested to see what he can do. Also Luffy to fight him and Zoro to beat up Doflamingo, yesyes Dude he clearly shifts and regains a "solid form" after passing through the wall, very much like a logia. He is also much bigger than when we saw him in his "human form" yet he retains the same shape and figure. Dude, I'm not interested in arguing with you. I told you what I think it might be. I'm not particularly interested in what you think about it.
Im not reallyy trying to argue with anyone, just pointing out a scene that should be taken into account when speculating. And you were the one who replied to me in the first place. If you are going to disagree with someone then dont fire back at that guy for posting a response.
If you dont care what other people think about your theory why even bother posting it on a public forum?
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On January 29 2014 20:03 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 19:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I'm expecting it to be something like Kidd's fruit but with rocks instead. Whatever it is, I'm interested to see what he can do. Also Luffy to fight him and Zoro to beat up Doflamingo, yesyes Dude he clearly shifts and regains a "solid form" after passing through the wall, very much like a logia. He is also much bigger than when we saw him in his "human form" yet he retains the same shape and figure.
Dude:
http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/736/18
If the "same shape and figure" is 3x taller than he usually is, then sure.
Notably, he also pulls the bricks and the hallway with him as he comes through the wall. The appearance is far more like he's pushing through it and wearing it like a skin. There's plenty of evidence that this guy could be parmecia given the enormous range of them we've seen. He could be wearing the castle castle fruit, the wall wall fruit, the skin skin fruit, the golem golem fruit, etc.
It could be a logia, but given how he pushed through the wall, and that he maintained bricks from the wall, and that he warped the hallway, I'm thinking he won't be.
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On January 29 2014 20:20 bittman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 20:03 sc2holar wrote:On January 29 2014 19:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I'm expecting it to be something like Kidd's fruit but with rocks instead. Whatever it is, I'm interested to see what he can do. Also Luffy to fight him and Zoro to beat up Doflamingo, yesyes Dude he clearly shifts and regains a "solid form" after passing through the wall, very much like a logia. He is also much bigger than when we saw him in his "human form" yet he retains the same shape and figure. Dude: http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/736/18If the "same shape and figure" is 3x taller than he usually is, then sure. Notably, he also pulls the bricks and the hallway with him as he comes through the wall. The appearance is far more like he's pushing through it and wearing it like a skin. There's plenty of evidence that this guy could be parmecia given the enormous range of them we've seen. He could be wearing the castle castle fruit, the wall wall fruit, the skin skin fruit, the golem golem fruit, etc. It could be a logia, but given how he pushed through the wall, and that he maintained bricks from the wall, and that he warped the hallway, I'm thinking he won't be.
Mythical Zoan - Stone Golem? it might be a possibility. Now that would be pretty badass!
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Zoans don't let you traverse walls. Paramecias do, as do Logias if the wall is of the same element as you arE. That's my understanding of it. I think it's Paramecia though I don't really care either way.
They all have weird ass fruits in the DD pirates. I thought Diamante put Haki into the cape but it's actually the dumbest fruit ever. :p
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On January 29 2014 20:23 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 20:20 bittman wrote:On January 29 2014 20:03 sc2holar wrote:On January 29 2014 19:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I'm expecting it to be something like Kidd's fruit but with rocks instead. Whatever it is, I'm interested to see what he can do. Also Luffy to fight him and Zoro to beat up Doflamingo, yesyes Dude he clearly shifts and regains a "solid form" after passing through the wall, very much like a logia. He is also much bigger than when we saw him in his "human form" yet he retains the same shape and figure. Dude: http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/736/18If the "same shape and figure" is 3x taller than he usually is, then sure. Notably, he also pulls the bricks and the hallway with him as he comes through the wall. The appearance is far more like he's pushing through it and wearing it like a skin. There's plenty of evidence that this guy could be parmecia given the enormous range of them we've seen. He could be wearing the castle castle fruit, the wall wall fruit, the skin skin fruit, the golem golem fruit, etc. It could be a logia, but given how he pushed through the wall, and that he maintained bricks from the wall, and that he warped the hallway, I'm thinking he won't be. Mythical Zoan - Stone Golem? it might be a possibility. Now that would be pretty badass!
See, could even be a zoan.
Honestly you probably can never guess it until Oda names and classes it.
As it is there's still a tonne of fruits Oda hasn't named, and a few that aren't even categorised. You can usually guess most of these, but you never know. I wouldn't have guessed Sengoku's fruit as a zoan if he'd never said it.
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Devil_Fruit#Unnamed_Devil_Fruits
EDIT: Yeah and Diamante's fruit...it's not interesting. I have a feeling Sabo vs Burgess will be the real fight, and Barto will take out Diamante. Rebecca will probably be ignored, but somehow get the fruit....or the barrel is empty...
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Austria24422 Posts
On January 29 2014 20:19 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 20:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 29 2014 20:03 sc2holar wrote:On January 29 2014 19:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I'm expecting it to be something like Kidd's fruit but with rocks instead. Whatever it is, I'm interested to see what he can do. Also Luffy to fight him and Zoro to beat up Doflamingo, yesyes Dude he clearly shifts and regains a "solid form" after passing through the wall, very much like a logia. He is also much bigger than when we saw him in his "human form" yet he retains the same shape and figure. Dude, I'm not interested in arguing with you. I told you what I think it might be. I'm not particularly interested in what you think about it. Im not reallyy trying to argue with anyone, just pointing out a scene that should be taken into account when speculating. And you were the one who replied to me in the first place. If you are going to disagree with someone then dont fire back at that guy for posting a response. If you dont care what other people think about your theory why even bother posting it on a public forum?
Oh I'm very much interested in other people's opinions and interaction with them. Definitely not in your "dude, this can't be because X" though.
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On January 29 2014 20:28 Incognoto wrote:
Zoans don't let you traverse walls. Paramecias do, as do Logias if the wall is of the same element as you arE. That's my understanding of it. I think it's Paramecia though I don't really care either way.
They all have weird ass fruits in the DD pirates. I thought Diamante put Haki into the cape but it's actually the dumbest fruit ever. :p
Mythical Zoans give you all sort of crazy powers. They usualy dont let you create regenerating blue flames or giant shockwaves either, but Zoan users Marco and Sengoku could do these things.
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On January 29 2014 20:28 Incognoto wrote:
Zoans don't let you traverse walls. Paramecias do, as do Logias if the wall is of the same element as you arE. That's my understanding of it. I think it's Paramecia though I don't really care either way.
They all have weird ass fruits in the DD pirates. I thought Diamante put Haki into the cape but it's actually the dumbest fruit ever. :p
What do you mean paramecias let you traverse walls?
Looking at this I think he either has a paramecia fruit that lets him wear anything he comes in contact with or the stone logia fruit.
Though I can't explain why he would be so fucking huge (including a giant head with giant eyes) if it was a paramecia. Also the fact that his helmets retains its exact shape in stone form would be weird if he wasn't a logia user.
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Man, the best part about this chapter to me was how mad Doflamingo got.
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Senor Pink ate the Sui Sui no Mi, a Paramecia-class Devil Fruit that allows him to swim on the ground or through walls.
Can't be the only DF that allows you to traverse walls.
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On January 29 2014 20:52 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +Senor Pink ate the Sui Sui no Mi, a Paramecia-class Devil Fruit that allows him to swim on the ground or through walls. Can't be the only DF that allows you to traverse walls.
But what would be the point of Senior Pinks DF if another Paramecia did basicly the same thing, plus allowing you to turn into a giant stone golem?
The ability to move through solid matter was THE thing about the the sui sui no mi.
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This is pure speculation and also a thought brought up by mangapanda's infamously poor translation so take it with a grain of salt. When Violet mentioned they mustn't be seen by Pica (or however you spell his name) or it'd be impossible to topple DD, I interpreted this as a fear not of his fighting capability (not to say he's weak) but that he has a special ability involved in protecting against infiltration. Seeing him come from the wall as a giant golem, I imagine his ability has more to do with territory manipulation. I suspect not only can he travel through the walls but he can also control the structure itself to basically hinder any infiltration attempts, among other things. Essentially, that he has free control/movement of the entire palace structure. Since I don't know how this would work out logistically, I wonder if it might be limited to a specific material such that because the place is all made of the same material, the result is the same.
Regardless, assuming Violet's line was translated correctly enough, I'm certain there's a subtle implication that she's worried about his ability stopping their infiltration. If his ability was just being a giant golem who happens to be able to travel through the walls, then it would be a relatively simple matter of just defeating him, but that doesn't seem to be what she's worried about exactly.
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Holy shit, are you a wizard? What an intelligent assessment.
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Yeah agreed.
Favourite line: "Something... isn't right here..."
Anytime Doflamingo is perturbed I like it
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Doflamingo reminds me of the Joker from the Batman animated series that i watched as a kid, in the sense that his emotional state is only capable of bouncing between raging wrath and sadistic, gleeful joy.
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On January 29 2014 21:39 flamewheel wrote:
Yeah agreed.
Favourite line: "Something... isn't right here..."
Anytime Doflamingo is perturbed I like it
Exactly.
Oda did such an excellent job building up Doffy like that.
I can't actually imagine any other character I wanted to see more over a long period of time other than BB + crew themselves. I don't think any other character is as interesting to me.
Actually maybe what the other alliance is up to interests me.
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On January 29 2014 22:03 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 21:39 flamewheel wrote:
Yeah agreed.
Favourite line: "Something... isn't right here..."
Anytime Doflamingo is perturbed I like it Exactly. Oda did such an excellent job building up Doffy like that. I can't actually imagine any other character I wanted to see more over a long period of time other than BB + crew themselves. I don't think any other character is as interesting to me. Actually maybe what the other alliance is up to interests me.
Oh I'd love to know what the individual powers of Shank's crews are!
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On January 29 2014 22:03 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 21:39 flamewheel wrote:
Yeah agreed.
Favourite line: "Something... isn't right here..."
Anytime Doflamingo is perturbed I like it Exactly. Oda did such an excellent job building up Doffy like that. I can't actually imagine any other character I wanted to see more over a long period of time other than BB + crew themselves. I don't think any other character is as interesting to me. Actually maybe what the other alliance is up to interests me.
The list of villains I was looking forward to Luffy fighting after the timeskip was:
- Blackbeard
- Doflamingo
- Akainu
- Smoker
Unfortunately Smoker was disappointing =(
But this arc is right up my alley. Dofla has been built up really well. Like, he's already the best villain in an arc of OP. Crocodile definitely eclipsed. CP9 were good, but it was more the group than one guy. Enel was just...well Enel.
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On January 29 2014 22:43 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 22:03 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 29 2014 21:39 flamewheel wrote:
Yeah agreed.
Favourite line: "Something... isn't right here..."
Anytime Doflamingo is perturbed I like it Exactly. Oda did such an excellent job building up Doffy like that. I can't actually imagine any other character I wanted to see more over a long period of time other than BB + crew themselves. I don't think any other character is as interesting to me. Actually maybe what the other alliance is up to interests me. Oh I'd love to know what the individual powers of Shank's crews are!
Do they even have a Devil Fruit user in their crew lol?
Crocodile was great but I have to admit I kind of like Doflamingo better as a vilain. Spanda(m) was an excellent character to hate.
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Excited to know on how is luffy's "childhood friend" gonna fight ... i hope he wins the tournament.
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