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Holy shit this guy. This dude right here has read so much One Piece that he himself has developed observation haki. Damn. What a nice find. I really hope he's right and the toy isn't a red herring. Although... if Moria did become a toy, why would the CP0 guy remember that he sent Doflamingo to kill him? Because being transformed into a toy robs people's memories of you.
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I doubt it, Moria has been mentioned to have been seen in the past 2 years after Marineford, which means people remember him. I guess its possible he is, but I find it unlikely.
On January 08 2014 11:42 Hyperbola wrote:WHAAAAAAAT Holy shit this guy. This dude right here has read so much One Piece that he himself has developed observation haki. Damn. What a nice find. I really hope he's right and the toy isn't a red herring. Although... if Moria did become a toy, why would the CP0 guy remember that he sent Doflamingo to kill him? Because being transformed into a toy robs people's memories of you.
The CP0 guy remembering Moria is further good proof that Moria isn't a toy.
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I thought about saying maybe Oda just forgot to make the CP0 guy forget memories of Moria. And that people have seen Moria in the past was just an overlook by Oda.
Then I thought, wait it's Oda, hes not Kubo... He doesn't make mistakes.
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its possible but if anything hed kill him since Moria escaped from him once before
also would be pretty lame of moria to be caught so easily
I thought about saying maybe Oda just forgot to make the CP0 guy forget memories of Moria. And that people have seen Moria in the past was just an overlook by Oda.
Then I thought, wait it's Oda, hes not Kubo... He doesn't make mistakes.
the memory thing isnt perfect and its possible that she can make exceptions, in this case she wouldnt need people to forget Moria since hes already "dead"
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I do expect Moria to come back and play a role when Kaido takes center stage. However, I don't think the video's theory is correct. When Doflamingo reported Moria missing, he must not have been a toy at the time because he would have been forgotten. Even if there is a way for certain people like Doflamingo and the CP0 guy to remember toys, Mihawk and Perona talk about Moria.
So the only way Moria is a toy now is if Doflamingo caught him later or if he captured him at the time, but didn't make him into a toy immediately. Doflamingo may be incredibly strong, but Moria is no pushover either. It seems doubtful that Doflamingo could restrain Moria and take him away without a whole lot of people knowing about it.
The theory that Absalom saved Moria seems more correct. Perhaps the invisible fruit can also mask the user against observation haki? Or maybe Doflamingo just thought it'd be more interesting if Moria was also in the mix... he does seem to want to watch the whole world burn.
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On January 08 2014 12:52 RenSC2 wrote:
I do expect Moria to come back and play a role when Kaido takes center stage. However, I don't think the video's theory is correct. When Doflamingo reported Moria missing, he must not have been a toy at the time because he would have been forgotten. Even if there is a way for certain people like Doflamingo and the CP0 guy to remember toys, Mihawk and Perona talk about Moria.
So the only way Moria is a toy now is if Doflamingo caught him later or if he captured him at the time, but didn't make him into a toy immediately. Doflamingo may be incredibly strong, but Moria is no pushover either. It seems doubtful that Doflamingo could restrain Moria and take him away without a whole lot of people knowing about it.
The theory that Absalom saved Moria seems more correct. Perhaps the invisible fruit can also mask the user against observation haki? Or maybe Doflamingo just thought it'd be more interesting if Moria was also in the mix... he does seem to want to watch the whole world burn.
My thoughts were that Doflamingo understood that Moria went invisible somehow and let him escape, but then went immediately after him afterward while he was still weak so that he could capture him and take him to Dressrosa. On the other hand I also think its a possibility that Absalom's fruit disguises presence like a certain character from Hunter X Hunter.For myself I hope the former is true because I think that would make for a better story than Moria showing up at some critical moment against Kaidou as some sort of hero.
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On January 08 2014 14:12 flamewheel wrote:
WHERE IS MY CHAPTER
Where is flamewheel's chapter!
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On January 08 2014 14:04 GettingIt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 12:52 RenSC2 wrote:
I do expect Moria to come back and play a role when Kaido takes center stage. However, I don't think the video's theory is correct. When Doflamingo reported Moria missing, he must not have been a toy at the time because he would have been forgotten. Even if there is a way for certain people like Doflamingo and the CP0 guy to remember toys, Mihawk and Perona talk about Moria.
So the only way Moria is a toy now is if Doflamingo caught him later or if he captured him at the time, but didn't make him into a toy immediately. Doflamingo may be incredibly strong, but Moria is no pushover either. It seems doubtful that Doflamingo could restrain Moria and take him away without a whole lot of people knowing about it.
The theory that Absalom saved Moria seems more correct. Perhaps the invisible fruit can also mask the user against observation haki? Or maybe Doflamingo just thought it'd be more interesting if Moria was also in the mix... he does seem to want to watch the whole world burn. My thoughts were that Doflamingo understood that Moria went invisible somehow and let him escape, but then went immediately after him afterward while he was still weak so that he could capture him and take him to Dressrosa. On the other hand I also think its a possibility that Absalom's fruit disguises presence like a certain character from Hunter X Hunter.For myself I hope the former is true because I think that would make for a better story than Moria showing up at some critical moment against Kaidou as some sort of hero.
What? Why would Doflamingo let someone escape and then immediately capture them afterwards? Thats just really bad storytelling.
Moria has next to no connection to anything or anyone in Dressrosa right now, so adding him into the mix doesn't really benefit the story very much. No idea why you would want Moria here just for the sake of it.
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At what time does it normally come out?
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
shoudl be soon, sometiems on wednesday by now (midnight est)
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On January 08 2014 14:48 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 14:04 GettingIt wrote:On January 08 2014 12:52 RenSC2 wrote:
I do expect Moria to come back and play a role when Kaido takes center stage. However, I don't think the video's theory is correct. When Doflamingo reported Moria missing, he must not have been a toy at the time because he would have been forgotten. Even if there is a way for certain people like Doflamingo and the CP0 guy to remember toys, Mihawk and Perona talk about Moria.
So the only way Moria is a toy now is if Doflamingo caught him later or if he captured him at the time, but didn't make him into a toy immediately. Doflamingo may be incredibly strong, but Moria is no pushover either. It seems doubtful that Doflamingo could restrain Moria and take him away without a whole lot of people knowing about it.
The theory that Absalom saved Moria seems more correct. Perhaps the invisible fruit can also mask the user against observation haki? Or maybe Doflamingo just thought it'd be more interesting if Moria was also in the mix... he does seem to want to watch the whole world burn. My thoughts were that Doflamingo understood that Moria went invisible somehow and let him escape, but then went immediately after him afterward while he was still weak so that he could capture him and take him to Dressrosa. On the other hand I also think its a possibility that Absalom's fruit disguises presence like a certain character from Hunter X Hunter.For myself I hope the former is true because I think that would make for a better story than Moria showing up at some critical moment against Kaidou as some sort of hero. What? Why would Doflamingo let someone escape and then immediately capture them afterwards? Thats just really bad storytelling. Moria has next to no connection to anything or anyone in Dressrosa right now, so adding him into the mix doesn't really benefit the story very much. No idea why you would want Moria here just for the sake of it.
plus Moira hates Kaidou (i think) and hates Doflamingo (because of beforementioned assasination attempt) so bringing Moira into his secret underground base he heavily relies on that directly supllies stuff to Kaidou seems like a bad call
especially if he can still use his DF in toy form
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On January 08 2014 14:48 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 14:04 GettingIt wrote:On January 08 2014 12:52 RenSC2 wrote:
I do expect Moria to come back and play a role when Kaido takes center stage. However, I don't think the video's theory is correct. When Doflamingo reported Moria missing, he must not have been a toy at the time because he would have been forgotten. Even if there is a way for certain people like Doflamingo and the CP0 guy to remember toys, Mihawk and Perona talk about Moria.
So the only way Moria is a toy now is if Doflamingo caught him later or if he captured him at the time, but didn't make him into a toy immediately. Doflamingo may be incredibly strong, but Moria is no pushover either. It seems doubtful that Doflamingo could restrain Moria and take him away without a whole lot of people knowing about it.
The theory that Absalom saved Moria seems more correct. Perhaps the invisible fruit can also mask the user against observation haki? Or maybe Doflamingo just thought it'd be more interesting if Moria was also in the mix... he does seem to want to watch the whole world burn. My thoughts were that Doflamingo understood that Moria went invisible somehow and let him escape, but then went immediately after him afterward while he was still weak so that he could capture him and take him to Dressrosa. On the other hand I also think its a possibility that Absalom's fruit disguises presence like a certain character from Hunter X Hunter.For myself I hope the former is true because I think that would make for a better story than Moria showing up at some critical moment against Kaidou as some sort of hero. What? Why would Doflamingo let someone escape and then immediately capture them afterwards? Thats just really bad storytelling. Moria has next to no connection to anything or anyone in Dressrosa right now, so adding him into the mix doesn't really benefit the story very much. No idea why you would want Moria here just for the sake of it.
Well you see the thing was for Doflamingo to keep him as a toy and use him as a safeguard against Kaidou if things got messy.
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On January 08 2014 14:51 flamewheel wrote:
shoudl be soon, sometiems on wednesday by now (midnight est)
I thought the word was it's not coming until the 15th.
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Yeah, no Jump this week (or any first week of January). Last was a double issue. It comes 14-15th.
On January 08 2014 12:51 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 10:26 GettingIt wrote:
I thought about saying maybe Oda just forgot to make the CP0 guy forget memories of Moria. And that people have seen Moria in the past was just an overlook by Oda.
Then I thought, wait it's Oda, hes not Kubo... He doesn't make mistakes. the memory thing isnt perfect and its possible that she can make exceptions, in this case she wouldnt need people to forget Moria since hes already "dead"
There you go again making assumptions you pass of as fact. There's a reason I poke fun at you with the direct line to Oda.
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
oh damn
I CANT WAIT TILL FIFTEENTH
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On January 08 2014 17:09 sumsaR wrote:Yeah, no Jump this week (or any first week of January). Last was a double issue. It comes 14-15th. Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 12:51 Forikorder wrote:On January 08 2014 10:26 GettingIt wrote:
I thought about saying maybe Oda just forgot to make the CP0 guy forget memories of Moria. And that people have seen Moria in the past was just an overlook by Oda.
Then I thought, wait it's Oda, hes not Kubo... He doesn't make mistakes. the memory thing isnt perfect and its possible that she can make exceptions, in this case she wouldnt need people to forget Moria since hes already "dead" There you go again making assumptions you pass of as fact. There's a reason I poke fun at you with the direct line to Oda.
"double issue"
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Aw,  So no Chapter this week?
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On January 08 2014 18:15 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 17:09 sumsaR wrote:Yeah, no Jump this week (or any first week of January). Last was a double issue. It comes 14-15th. On January 08 2014 12:51 Forikorder wrote:On January 08 2014 10:26 GettingIt wrote:
I thought about saying maybe Oda just forgot to make the CP0 guy forget memories of Moria. And that people have seen Moria in the past was just an overlook by Oda.
Then I thought, wait it's Oda, hes not Kubo... He doesn't make mistakes. the memory thing isnt perfect and its possible that she can make exceptions, in this case she wouldnt need people to forget Moria since hes already "dead" There you go again making assumptions you pass of as fact. There's a reason I poke fun at you with the direct line to Oda. "double issue"
Yes.
Every year, Jump has 4 scheduled breaks.
These are the approximate times, the specific dates are different every year, naturally.
Issue #04-05 -> third week of December
Issue #06-07 -> first week of January
Issue #22-23 -> last week of April
Issue #36-37 -> first week of August
As you can see, the issues all have a double number, hence why we call them double issues.
In order to not break the naming pattern, the issues preceeding a holiday receive two numbers, covering for two weeks effectively, they are what we call double issues. Now, I know it may seem natural to assume that they also must contain two chapters of everything to 'make up' for the lack of Jump in the following week - but that is not so.
See here for a more detailed explaination.
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on the matter of moriah, he disappeared and the end of the marineford war, probably because of some shenanigans involving his DF or absalom making him invisible and walking him out of there, the latter being a theory developed by someone and i apologize for forgetting the source, which is circumstantially strengthened by the fact that oda has confirmed absaloms existence in the new world in a SBS post. i highly doubt moriah was captured yet again and turned into a toy, but it is entirely possible.
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