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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
September 04 2013 20:04 GMT
#9481
judging from the dendenmushi, we can see that Blackbeard's beard has grown since we've last saw
Writerptrk
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 04 2013 20:04 GMT
#9482
On September 05 2013 04:09 hisoga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 03:48 Afmug wrote:
On September 05 2013 01:15 Incognoto wrote:
On September 04 2013 23:40 gloupi78 wrote:
Is Aokiji with BlackBeard's Crew?

I ask because Burgess says "I can't trust Aokiji" and Dofla said before that the rumlors about Aokiji were not good.

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/720/12


BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"


So.... Shiliew abandoned world government to become a pirate. So what do shiliew and aokiji have in common? What's untrustworthy?

Let's try to guess the convo:

burg: "the navy won't go after aokiji because he's an ex-admiral, he worked with WG"
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"

or ?

here's the format, fill it out as you see fit:


burg: " "
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"


to clarify: "shiliew" is the worst fucking translation ever for "shiryuu" [of the rain].

http://readms.com/r/one_piece/720/2041/13

what did you mean?
Mangastream was wrong as always.. Shiliew is the official spelling by Oda himself. check volume 61.

Yup.
It used to be Shiryuu because the translators assumed it wouldn't be that way but apparently they were wrong.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18776 Posts
September 04 2013 20:16 GMT
#9483
On September 05 2013 04:28 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 04:11 sharkie wrote:
On September 05 2013 04:09 hisoga wrote:
On September 05 2013 03:48 Afmug wrote:
On September 05 2013 01:15 Incognoto wrote:
On September 04 2013 23:40 gloupi78 wrote:
Is Aokiji with BlackBeard's Crew?

I ask because Burgess says "I can't trust Aokiji" and Dofla said before that the rumlors about Aokiji were not good.

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/720/12


BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"


So.... Shiliew abandoned world government to become a pirate. So what do shiliew and aokiji have in common? What's untrustworthy?

Let's try to guess the convo:

burg: "the navy won't go after aokiji because he's an ex-admiral, he worked with WG"
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"

or ?

here's the format, fill it out as you see fit:


burg: " "
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"


to clarify: "shiliew" is the worst fucking translation ever for "shiryuu" [of the rain].

http://readms.com/r/one_piece/720/2041/13

what did you mean?
Mangastream was wrong as always.. Shiliew is the official spelling by Oda himself. check volume 61.


you cant even write shiliew in Japanese o.O

Yes you can...シリュウ


which is Shiryuu...
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 04 2013 21:13 GMT
#9484
On September 05 2013 02:55 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 01:15 Incognoto wrote:
On September 04 2013 23:40 gloupi78 wrote:
Is Aokiji with BlackBeard's Crew?

I ask because Burgess says "I can't trust Aokiji" and Dofla said before that the rumlors about Aokiji were not good.

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/720/12


BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"


So.... Shiliew abandoned world government to become a pirate. So what do shiliew and aokiji have in common? What's untrustworthy?

Let's try to guess the convo:

burg: "the navy won't go after aokiji because he's an ex-admiral, he worked with WG"
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"

or ?

here's the format, fill it out as you see fit:


burg: " "
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"


It's probably me who's too dumb in the middle of the evening but what'd be the meaning of this sentence, and conversation that ensues? Is it a bad thing for burgess that the navy won't be after him? Thanks for clarification.


There first set of quotes is what was in the manga

the second set of quotes is me trying to guess what burgess said right before blackbeard answers "isn't shiliew the same"

last set of quotes is the format you can use ifyou want to propose something else that might make sense
maru lover forever
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 05:22:30
September 05 2013 05:22 GMT
#9485
On September 05 2013 05:16 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 04:28 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
On September 05 2013 04:11 sharkie wrote:
On September 05 2013 04:09 hisoga wrote:
On September 05 2013 03:48 Afmug wrote:
On September 05 2013 01:15 Incognoto wrote:
On September 04 2013 23:40 gloupi78 wrote:
Is Aokiji with BlackBeard's Crew?

I ask because Burgess says "I can't trust Aokiji" and Dofla said before that the rumlors about Aokiji were not good.

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/720/12


BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"


So.... Shiliew abandoned world government to become a pirate. So what do shiliew and aokiji have in common? What's untrustworthy?

Let's try to guess the convo:

burg: "the navy won't go after aokiji because he's an ex-admiral, he worked with WG"
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"

or ?

here's the format, fill it out as you see fit:


burg: " "
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"


to clarify: "shiliew" is the worst fucking translation ever for "shiryuu" [of the rain].

http://readms.com/r/one_piece/720/2041/13

what did you mean?
Mangastream was wrong as always.. Shiliew is the official spelling by Oda himself. check volume 61.


you cant even write shiliew in Japanese o.O

Yes you can...シリュウ


which is Shiryuu...

you know how to read katakana but when it comes to katakana the romanized version of it almost NEVER equals the actual spelling in whatever language its mimicking. So yes romanized that IS shiryuu but the word that he is actually spelling with the most similar sounding katakana (since there are no single constants etc etc in japanese) is Shiliew.
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 05 2013 06:46 GMT
#9486
On September 05 2013 06:13 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 02:55 PVJ wrote:
On September 05 2013 01:15 Incognoto wrote:
On September 04 2013 23:40 gloupi78 wrote:
Is Aokiji with BlackBeard's Crew?

I ask because Burgess says "I can't trust Aokiji" and Dofla said before that the rumlors about Aokiji were not good.

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/720/12


BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"


So.... Shiliew abandoned world government to become a pirate. So what do shiliew and aokiji have in common? What's untrustworthy?

Let's try to guess the convo:

burg: "the navy won't go after aokiji because he's an ex-admiral, he worked with WG"
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"

or ?

here's the format, fill it out as you see fit:


burg: " "
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"


It's probably me who's too dumb in the middle of the evening but what'd be the meaning of this sentence, and conversation that ensues? Is it a bad thing for burgess that the navy won't be after him? Thanks for clarification.


There first set of quotes is what was in the manga

the second set of quotes is me trying to guess what burgess said right before blackbeard answers "isn't shiliew the same"

last set of quotes is the format you can use ifyou want to propose something else that might make sense

And I'm asking what are you trying to take a guess at?
The heart's eternal vow
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 07:47:35
September 05 2013 07:46 GMT
#9487
On September 03 2013 14:45 FireSA wrote:
Soooooooo have decided I want to read and catch up to the manga, so am a bit into Punk Hazard arc now. Is it just me or is One Piece by far the highest quality serialized manga that is released on a relatively frequent basis? You have got to love the small details, the relatively good art, and tons of little jokes and such...really loving it

Tower of God is far superior in that aspect IMO, then again it's manhwa not a manga.

Oh and the Roguetown thing very hopefully is due to Dragon, otherwise it'd be an extremely lame Deus Ex Machina.


This chapter was really good, explained numerous things. Rebecca seemed rather pathetic though, hopefully she wasn't trying to seriously betray Luffy.
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Garalor
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany136 Posts
September 05 2013 09:40 GMT
#9488
no she wasn't. luffy himself said, she had no real killing intent. and he knows because of observation haki.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 05 2013 11:11 GMT
#9489
On September 05 2013 15:46 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 06:13 Incognoto wrote:
On September 05 2013 02:55 PVJ wrote:
On September 05 2013 01:15 Incognoto wrote:
On September 04 2013 23:40 gloupi78 wrote:
Is Aokiji with BlackBeard's Crew?

I ask because Burgess says "I can't trust Aokiji" and Dofla said before that the rumlors about Aokiji were not good.

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/720/12


BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"


So.... Shiliew abandoned world government to become a pirate. So what do shiliew and aokiji have in common? What's untrustworthy?

Let's try to guess the convo:

burg: "the navy won't go after aokiji because he's an ex-admiral, he worked with WG"
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"

or ?

here's the format, fill it out as you see fit:


burg: " "
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"


It's probably me who's too dumb in the middle of the evening but what'd be the meaning of this sentence, and conversation that ensues? Is it a bad thing for burgess that the navy won't be after him? Thanks for clarification.


There first set of quotes is what was in the manga

the second set of quotes is me trying to guess what burgess said right before blackbeard answers "isn't shiliew the same"

last set of quotes is the format you can use ifyou want to propose something else that might make sense

And I'm asking what are you trying to take a guess at?


What burg said to BB before blackbeard said "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
maru lover forever
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 05 2013 12:26 GMT
#9490
On September 05 2013 20:11 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 15:46 PVJ wrote:
On September 05 2013 06:13 Incognoto wrote:
On September 05 2013 02:55 PVJ wrote:
On September 05 2013 01:15 Incognoto wrote:
On September 04 2013 23:40 gloupi78 wrote:
Is Aokiji with BlackBeard's Crew?

I ask because Burgess says "I can't trust Aokiji" and Dofla said before that the rumlors about Aokiji were not good.

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/720/12


BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"


So.... Shiliew abandoned world government to become a pirate. So what do shiliew and aokiji have in common? What's untrustworthy?

Let's try to guess the convo:

burg: "the navy won't go after aokiji because he's an ex-admiral, he worked with WG"
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"

or ?

here's the format, fill it out as you see fit:


burg: " "
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"


It's probably me who's too dumb in the middle of the evening but what'd be the meaning of this sentence, and conversation that ensues? Is it a bad thing for burgess that the navy won't be after him? Thanks for clarification.


There first set of quotes is what was in the manga

the second set of quotes is me trying to guess what burgess said right before blackbeard answers "isn't shiliew the same"

last set of quotes is the format you can use ifyou want to propose something else that might make sense

And I'm asking what are you trying to take a guess at?


What burg said to BB before blackbeard said "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"

I can read, and read what you wrote there but it doesn't make sense for me so I'm asking what you are implying with the said sentence.
The heart's eternal vow
Garalor
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany136 Posts
September 05 2013 13:17 GMT
#9491
hm strange PVJ, i will try for him

this is straight from OP:
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"


so shiliew is a Member of BB and was a former Member of the Navi because he was a chief guard of Impel down.

So BB says that Shiliew is the same.... like who?.
Burg tells BB that he can't trust Aokiji. This tells us as reader, that what BB said is to point out that shiliew and Aokiji are the "same".
After that Burg stops conversation, because of luffy.

so now Incognoto says: we can try to imagin what Burgess told BB before "we" enter the conversation example given:
burg: "the navy won't go after aokiji because he's an ex-admiral, he worked with WG"
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"

or maybe:
Burg: "He(aokiji) has his own targets, i don't know if we can trust him"
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
CSSolutionstv
Profile Joined November 2010
118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 13:52:49
September 05 2013 13:36 GMT
#9492
Seems like either Aokijii joined, or allied the blackbeard pirates... kinda makes you wonder what he's after.

While hes against Akainu way of justice, hes definitely not a "Pirate", even less a pirate that would ally with someone like Blackbeard... makes you wonder.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8947 Posts
September 05 2013 13:44 GMT
#9493
he definitely hasnt joined blackbeards crew. if he were to ever join a pirate crew the most likely would be luffys but hes still a marine at heart.
CSSolutionstv
Profile Joined November 2010
118 Posts
September 05 2013 13:53 GMT
#9494
On September 05 2013 22:44 evilfatsh1t wrote:
he definitely hasnt joined blackbeards crew. if he were to ever join a pirate crew the most likely would be luffys but hes still a marine at heart.


Still, any kind of affiliation between Aokijii and Blackbeard goes against Aokijii values.
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
September 05 2013 14:14 GMT
#9495
Like the one said before, the most probable action Aokiji took was giving BB information, nothing more.
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 05 2013 14:23 GMT
#9496
On September 05 2013 22:53 CSSolutionstv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 22:44 evilfatsh1t wrote:
he definitely hasnt joined blackbeards crew. if he were to ever join a pirate crew the most likely would be luffys but hes still a marine at heart.


Still, any kind of affiliation between Aokijii and Blackbeard goes against Aokijii values.


That's what so suspicious.

@ Garalor ty for clearing all that up


What do Aokiji and Shiliew have in common other than they worked for the navy but not anymore? It's possible that what they have in common isn't the fact that they both quit the Navy. But then, what is? Why does Burgess need to trust Aokiji?

Also....

http://mangafox.me/manga/one_piece/v70/c699/10.html


OMG ODA STOP THIS TORTURE
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 05 2013 18:38 GMT
#9497
On September 05 2013 22:17 Garalor wrote:
hm strange PVJ, i will try for him

this is straight from OP:
Show nested quote +
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"


so shiliew is a Member of BB and was a former Member of the Navi because he was a chief guard of Impel down.

So BB says that Shiliew is the same.... like who?.
Burg tells BB that he can't trust Aokiji. This tells us as reader, that what BB said is to point out that shiliew and Aokiji are the "same".
After that Burg stops conversation, because of luffy.

so now Incognoto says: we can try to imagin what Burgess told BB before "we" enter the conversation example given:
burg: "the navy won't go after aokiji because he's an ex-admiral, he worked with WG"
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"

or maybe:
Burg: "He(aokiji) has his own targets, i don't know if we can trust him"
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"

he probably said "i cant trust someone who worked for the Navy"
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 19:56:07
September 05 2013 19:53 GMT
#9498
On September 05 2013 22:17 Garalor wrote:
hm strange PVJ, i will try for him

this is straight from OP:
Show nested quote +
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"
burg: "ah wait up captain, straw hat is here"


so shiliew is a Member of BB and was a former Member of the Navi because he was a chief guard of Impel down.

So BB says that Shiliew is the same.... like who?.
Burg tells BB that he can't trust Aokiji. This tells us as reader, that what BB said is to point out that shiliew and Aokiji are the "same".
After that Burg stops conversation, because of luffy.

so now Incognoto says: we can try to imagin what Burgess told BB before "we" enter the conversation example given:
burg: "the navy won't go after aokiji because he's an ex-admiral, he worked with WG"
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"

or maybe:
Burg: "He(aokiji) has his own targets, i don't know if we can trust him"
BB: "Zehaha, isn't shiliew the same though?"
burg: "But you see, I can't trust aokiji"

I understand what he does, who shiliew is what comes from op etc etc. I read the chapter and his post with great care. I'm interested why (as in why he wrote it as he wrote it, not for what purpose) he wrote the line "the navy won't go after aokiji because he's an ex-admiral, he worked with WG" as he did, which is why I bolded it in the first place when I was quoting him. That's all.
The heart's eternal vow
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1102 Posts
September 05 2013 20:35 GMT
#9499
As for Blackbeard/Aokiji conversation, I'd suspect the immediate line preceding what we see was something like "I can't trust a former marine." To which Blackbeard reminds Burgess of Shiliew's past, but Burgess still puts his doubt in towards Aokiji. I'm guessing the conversation has something to do with information that Aokiji gave Blackbeard on Doflamingo and/or his operations. Despite Burgess's usual bravado, he might be showing signs of hesitance from being stuck alone against Doflamingo's entire forces and doesn't want to rely on the word of Aokiji when his own ass is on the line.

On another note, we see that the gladiator prisoners have many amputations. Also note that Soldier-san has a missing leg. I would bet that Soldier-san is a former gladiator and I'm thinking he's Kyros. The reason why Kyros is forgotten is due to being turned into a toy, just like all the other people who were turned into toys. The strange part is that supposedly he consecutively won 3000 matches and only took a single blow from a single opponent in that time. Did that single blow amputate his leg? It's possible. Another alternative is that he retired 20 years ago as noted, but then fought Doflamingo when he invaded 10 years ago and Doflamingo was able to remove his leg and then have Kyros turned into a toy.

With Soldier being Kyros, it would put the identity of Swordsman Ricky up for more debate. He could simply be Rebecca's father/grandfather/uncle who was perhaps another formidable gladiator before Doflamingo's reign. He could even have been the one who landed the one blow on Kyros back in the day, but then went off and became a pirate (his cape has a pirate symbol on it). Alternatively, it's possible that he was a royal guard for the original royal family of Dressrosa which we know nothing about (yet) and joined the battle royale to gain the fruit and overthrow Doflamingo.
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September 05 2013 20:47 GMT
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On September 06 2013 05:35 RenSC2 wrote:
As for Blackbeard/Aokiji conversation, I'd suspect the immediate line preceding what we see was something like "I can't trust a former marine." To which Blackbeard reminds Burgess of Shiliew's past, but Burgess still puts his doubt in towards Aokiji. I'm guessing the conversation has something to do with information that Aokiji gave Blackbeard on Doflamingo and/or his operations. Despite Burgess's usual bravado, he might be showing signs of hesitance from being stuck alone against Doflamingo's entire forces and doesn't want to rely on the word of Aokiji when his own ass is on the line.

On another note, we see that the gladiator prisoners have many amputations. Also note that Soldier-san has a missing leg. I would bet that Soldier-san is a former gladiator and I'm thinking he's Kyros. The reason why Kyros is forgotten is due to being turned into a toy, just like all the other people who were turned into toys. The strange part is that supposedly he consecutively won 3000 matches and only took a single blow from a single opponent in that time. Did that single blow amputate his leg? It's possible. Another alternative is that he retired 20 years ago as noted, but then fought Doflamingo when he invaded 10 years ago and Doflamingo was able to remove his leg and then have Kyros turned into a toy.

With Soldier being Kyros, it would put the identity of Swordsman Ricky up for more debate. He could simply be Rebecca's father/grandfather/uncle who was perhaps another formidable gladiator before Doflamingo's reign. He could even have been the one who landed the one blow on Kyros back in the day, but then went off and became a pirate (his cape has a pirate symbol on it). Alternatively, it's possible that he was a royal guard for the original royal family of Dressrosa which we know nothing about (yet) and joined the battle royale to gain the fruit and overthrow Doflamingo.

IMO if he was Kyros then it was probably Dofla who took the leg in order to restrain him enough to be toy-ified
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