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On September 05 2013 16:46 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 14:45 FireSA wrote:
Soooooooo have decided I want to read and catch up to the manga, so am a bit into Punk Hazard arc now. Is it just me or is One Piece by far the highest quality serialized manga that is released on a relatively frequent basis? You have got to love the small details, the relatively good art, and tons of little jokes and such...really loving it Tower of God is far superior in that aspect IMO, then again it's manhwa not a manga.
I like ToG, its universe, the characters etc etc but OP is far ahead it's not even close. Especially if we are talking about details, it's not really up to opinion. He has about 3 assistants filling all the details of the backgrounds. The universe is so rich with many references to past events, not to mention epic foreshadowing over hundreds of chapters. Not going to say more about it, it has been discussed to death.
Obviously OP is much older so there's that, but if ToG 10 years later turns out to be half as good as what OP is now, I'd be very happy. I am not too hopeful, because I find it much less interesting since season 2 and the pacing has been terrible. But that might be just me.
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Ok.. Can someone please obliterate this guy's post?
I keep up with the manga solely for saying that I read all of the big three and I can draw comparisons. I can give many reasons why not to like OP, most of them dealing with Oda and his retarded logic, stupid story plots, dumbass character designs and his refusal to acknowledge science or understand the concept of numbers.
Can someone just literally destroy this guy's post? I'll post your counter argument.
User was warned for this post
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On September 06 2013 07:43 Shinokuki wrote:
Ok.. Can someone please obliterate this guy's post?
I keep up with the manga solely for saying that I read all of the big three and I can draw comparisons. I can give many reasons why not to like OP, most of them dealing with Oda and his retarded logic, stupid story plots, dumbass character designs and his refusal to acknowledge science or understand the concept of numbers.
Can someone just literally destroy this guy's post? I'll post your counter argument.
whos post? this guy isnt a very accurate identification
also how can you not like OP? its perfect!
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On September 06 2013 07:43 Shinokuki wrote:
his refusal to acknowledge science or understand the concept of numbers.
As much as I can understand for the other points, even if I don't agree at all, those ones are just dumb. What would science or numbers add to One Piece? It already has its own rules and shit, why does it have to be related to our world in any shape of form?
It feels like sometimes, some people need hipster reasons just to show how proud they are to not appreciate One Piece.
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On September 06 2013 07:43 Shinokuki wrote:
Ok.. Can someone please obliterate this guy's post?
I keep up with the manga solely for saying that I read all of the big three and I can draw comparisons. I can give many reasons why not to like OP, most of them dealing with Oda and his retarded logic, stupid story plots, dumbass character designs and his refusal to acknowledge science or understand the concept of numbers.
Can someone just literally destroy this guy's post? I'll post your counter argument.
like naruto and bleach are like our real world..
Talk no jutsu and mask changing is better then OP? Even the art is better in OP..
Frankly you are ridiculous and you shouldn't come to a OP thread and talk shit..
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On September 06 2013 09:02 shell wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 07:43 Shinokuki wrote:
Ok.. Can someone please obliterate this guy's post?
I keep up with the manga solely for saying that I read all of the big three and I can draw comparisons. I can give many reasons why not to like OP, most of them dealing with Oda and his retarded logic, stupid story plots, dumbass character designs and his refusal to acknowledge science or understand the concept of numbers.
Can someone just literally destroy this guy's post? I'll post your counter argument. like naruto and bleach are like our real world.. Talk no jutsu and mask changing is better then OP? Even the art is better in OP.. Frankly you are ridiculous and you shouldn't come to a OP thread and talk shit..
Ya don't come to the OP thread and talk shit, only the Bleach and Naruto threads are used to talk shit about the manga.
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he's quoting a post from another forum I think and he's asking you guys to help rebuke that middle paragraph argument lol
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Im just asking your guy's help. After reading about 100 pgs of one piece manga thread, i'm really amazed how you guys came up with such a good theories and explanations. I hope someone fully debunk that guy's post. Apparently he thinks death note and bleach are the best mangas..
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On September 06 2013 12:19 Shinokuki wrote:
Im just asking your guy's help. After reading about 100 pgs of one piece manga thread, i'm really amazed how you guys came up with such a good theories and explanations. I hope someone fully debunk that guy's post. Apparently he thinks death note and bleach are the best mangas..
You should've said something more constructed last time. We didn't even know what you were asking and thought you were calling OP bad. Put it in quotes or something.
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Ah, I also misunderstood but now it makes sense.
Use quotes! Lol!
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Olli
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On September 06 2013 12:19 Shinokuki wrote:
Im just asking your guy's help. After reading about 100 pgs of one piece manga thread, i'm really amazed how you guys came up with such a good theories and explanations. I hope someone fully debunk that guy's post. Apparently he thinks death note and bleach are the best mangas..
BLEACH
well there's your argument
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On September 06 2013 07:43 Shinokuki wrote:
Ok.. Can someone please obliterate this guy's post?
I keep up with the manga solely for saying that I read all of the big three and I can draw comparisons. I can give many reasons why not to like OP, most of them dealing with Oda and his retarded logic, stupid story plots, dumbass character designs and his refusal to acknowledge science or understand the concept of numbers.
Can someone just literally destroy this guy's post? I'll post your counter argument.
The counter argument is simply that Oda has created a fantasy world, not a world of reality. Basic laws of physics do not apply (which is true in almost every manga), although the series seems to have its own laws that it stays consistent with. Many of the "stupid story plots" actually connect and what once seemed like a silly worthless plot actually turns into something important later on in the series. In fact, almost the entire series and every side plot gets woven back into the main plot which means that almost everything you read is relevant or someday will be. Oda puts in so many details and little clues to the future that are extremely easy to miss, that even careful readers will constantly miss things and then realize later on what they missed.
The plot lines often have positive messages throughout and are sometimes allegoric in nature. A lot of people thought the Fishman Island arc was sub-par, but look at it again through the lens of the fishmen being a middle eastern country while the humans are the western world. The story is discussing terrorism and some of the causes of it. It also provides some suggestions on how to deal with it... much of the hatred/suspicion can be removed through communication, but some hatred is purely for the sake of hatred and must be defeated. Or think of the three ancient weapons: Pluton (plutonium), Uranus (uranium), poseidon (?). Plutonium and uranium are the ingredients for atomic weapons and in the One Piece pluton is being represented by an extremely powerful ship capable of destroying islands (like an atomic bomb). We don't know the form of Uranus yet, but expect it to also be a weapon capable of mass destruction.
As for character designs, again, we're in a fantasy world... though many are loosely based on actual people. The character designs are designed to give a large variety to the characters. In a world where there are hundreds of named characters, this is extremely important to help differentiate each one so that we can often tell who a character is purely by his/her silhouette or just a small glimpse of them. Are they silly at times? Yep, that's intended. While the story often deals with very tough topics: oppression, torture, slavery, corruption, terrorism, etc, it broaches those topics without depressing the reader by maintaining a certain amount of silliness throughout. This allows Oda to speak out on many tough topics without turning away a large portion of his audience who just want to enjoy a fun-filled manga.
And when it comes to fun, One Piece delivers.
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Death note is pretty beast
I also thought you asked us to bash one piece in its own thread lol( thats reserved to naruto)
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Olli
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The bleach thread is hilarious, everybody just makes fun of bleach
Death note is sick good but hardly comparable to OP at all.
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On September 06 2013 07:43 Shinokuki wrote:
Ok.. Can someone please obliterate this guy's post?
I keep up with the manga solely for saying that I read all of the big three and I can draw comparisons. I can give many reasons why not to like OP, most of them dealing with Oda and his retarded logic, stupid story plots, dumbass character designs and his refusal to acknowledge science or understand the concept of numbers.
Can someone just literally destroy this guy's post? I'll post your counter argument.
User was warned for this post
why was this post warned? o.O
he is just asking for our help...
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On September 06 2013 17:37 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 07:43 Shinokuki wrote:
Ok.. Can someone please obliterate this guy's post?
I keep up with the manga solely for saying that I read all of the big three and I can draw comparisons. I can give many reasons why not to like OP, most of them dealing with Oda and his retarded logic, stupid story plots, dumbass character designs and his refusal to acknowledge science or understand the concept of numbers.
Can someone just literally destroy this guy's post? I'll post your counter argument.
User was warned for this post why was this post warned? o.O he is just asking for our help...
Pretty sure that, like the rest of the replies, the mods thought he was just being an ass. Also, mods don't like when you question warning/bans in thread. They prefer you take it to website feedback.
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On September 06 2013 17:44 Foblos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 17:37 sharkie wrote:On September 06 2013 07:43 Shinokuki wrote:
Ok.. Can someone please obliterate this guy's post?
I keep up with the manga solely for saying that I read all of the big three and I can draw comparisons. I can give many reasons why not to like OP, most of them dealing with Oda and his retarded logic, stupid story plots, dumbass character designs and his refusal to acknowledge science or understand the concept of numbers.
Can someone just literally destroy this guy's post? I'll post your counter argument.
User was warned for this post why was this post warned? o.O he is just asking for our help... Pretty sure that, like the rest of the replies, the mods thought he was just being an ass. Also, mods don't like when you question warning/bans in thread. They prefer you take it to website feedback.
aka nazi mods
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On September 06 2013 18:10 Afmug wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 17:44 Foblos wrote:On September 06 2013 17:37 sharkie wrote:On September 06 2013 07:43 Shinokuki wrote:
Ok.. Can someone please obliterate this guy's post?
I keep up with the manga solely for saying that I read all of the big three and I can draw comparisons. I can give many reasons why not to like OP, most of them dealing with Oda and his retarded logic, stupid story plots, dumbass character designs and his refusal to acknowledge science or understand the concept of numbers.
Can someone just literally destroy this guy's post? I'll post your counter argument.
User was warned for this post why was this post warned? o.O he is just asking for our help... Pretty sure that, like the rest of the replies, the mods thought he was just being an ass. Also, mods don't like when you question warning/bans in thread. They prefer you take it to website feedback. aka nazi mods
I would edit that^^
Anyone noticed that barto could press someone against the wall with his barrier ability?
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I didn't really want to start arguing about OP vs ToG. I just think that many things in OP like characters interaction is really predictable, ToG feels like it is significantly less predictable and characters are more complex. It also feels like OP has many scenarios of "it's magic"-syndrome where stuff isn't explained properly and happens because "that's how it is", for example the stream to Skypeia. It's kind of difficult to argue in detail at this point due to ToG being so much younger. If by "detail" you would mean the background flowers or art in general then I'd have to say that OP is much better, of course. ToG's art is mediocre at best.
This is all my opinion and just the impressions I get. By the way I'm not saying that OP is bad either, it just is my #2 manga/manhwa and I believe the thing that's most interesting about OP just advances painfully slowly(World Government stuff, poneglyphs, the Void Century, ancient mass destruction weapons like Shirahoshi, politics) and it's filled with stuff that's really not all that important(most arcs), for the sake of adventure.
And now that I think about it, so many things in OP just make no sense in the slightest(the world itself primarily). + Show Spoiler [for your heart] +Oh and shouldn't Enel have been able to bypass all the weather conditions and Sea Kings and whatever and reached Raftel if he didn't decide to trololo his tiny island and then fly to the moon? Yes I just love doing this.
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On September 06 2013 18:51 Shikyo wrote:I didn't really want to start arguing about OP vs ToG. I just think that many things in OP like characters interaction is really predictable, ToG feels like it is significantly less predictable and characters are more complex. It also feels like OP has many scenarios of "it's magic"-syndrome where stuff isn't explained properly and happens because "that's how it is", for example the stream to Skypeia. It's kind of difficult to argue in detail at this point due to ToG being so much younger. If by "detail" you would mean the background flowers or art in general then I'd have to say that OP is much better, of course. ToG's art is mediocre at best. This is all my opinion and just the impressions I get. By the way I'm not saying that OP is bad either, it just is my #2 manga/manhwa and I believe the thing that's most interesting about OP just advances painfully slowly(World Government stuff, poneglyphs, the Void Century, ancient mass destruction weapons like Shirahoshi, politics) and it's filled with stuff that's really not all that important(most arcs), for the sake of adventure. And now that I think about it, so many things in OP just make no sense in the slightest(the world itself primarily). + Show Spoiler [for your heart] +Oh and shouldn't Enel have been able to bypass all the weather conditions and Sea Kings and whatever and reached Raftel if he didn't decide to trololo his tiny island and then fly to the moon? Yes I just love doing this.
no one knows where it is though.
and as for op vs tog. theyre too different too compare and tog is too young. should be noted though that tog has the most complex story/world that ive seen so far. comparing the amount of detail in the world of tog to one piece is like comparing the pyramids to a playground
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