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On June 26 2013 22:44 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 22:35 []Phase[] wrote: Honestly, I think it's hard to predict anything at this point. Oda has done crazy things before, and I'm sure he has plenty of plot twists in store for us. I was abit disappointed when I read sc2holars post : yeah I guess there is the pattern of 'luffy defeats x and moves on', but for me, it's just so much more that is going on on the side that makes it interesting every time. There is only so much you can do when your manga has been running for 10+ years, and I can honestly say it stays fresh to me. I am very excited for this arc, and from what we've seen so far, it's going to be fucking awesome.
Also : Sanji with Violet DF powers - the second 'peeping fruit'? (next to the invisibility fruit) ignore my post man, im obviously wrong. since the marineford arc, the manga seems to be largely more political with big factions (other than the straw hats) playing a major role in the storyline. i guess my main issue lies with blackbeard, and i really dont hope he ends up being the primary antagonist. doflamingo is so much more interesting :/ /#teamflamingo
But don't expect the Manga to go from 0 to 100 after the big break.
The first arc after the 2-years training is the Fishman Island arc, which actually has nothing to do with this current arc. But It was a setup - arc for future confrontations with the big guys. ...
After that, you will getting into this current "Dressrosa" arc.
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Violet to join Strawhats.
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OMFG 17pages!!!! NEED MORE!!!
DF is a world noble or related ehhhhh, someone here guessed it right lol
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I am pretty sure DoFla go down this arc. He may still be relevant to the story though, especially if there is a World Nobles / Revolutionaries arc. Kinda like Crocodile has a part in the story but not as a villain anymore.
Blackbeard is 100% the final boss, how can people doubt that... seriously.
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On June 26 2013 23:13 mavignon wrote: I am pretty sure DoFla go down this arc. He may still be relevant to the story though, especially if there is a World Nobles / Revolutionaries arc. Kinda like Crocodile has a part in the story but not as a villain anymore.
Blackbeard is 100% the final boss, how can people doubt that... seriously.
i still think doflamingo could beat blackbeard in a 1on1, and ill fight you on this one. BB cant regenerate himself, so doflamingo could just dismember him with his strings
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Seems I'm one of the few who found that chapter weak then. D:
The bit with Sanji and Violet was laughable at best, while Doflamingo's ruse was irritating (essentially being "I've left the Shichubukai... Jokes lol I didn't really!").
While it did set up a few interesting things (the hints at Doflamingo's past and Luffy finally getting into the fight) it just felt too rushed for me.
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On June 26 2013 23:20 SecondManRex wrote: Seems I'm one of the few who found that chapter weak then. D:
The bit with Sanji and Violet was laughable at best, while Doflamingo's ruse was irritating (essentially being "I've left the Shichubukai... Jokes lol I didn't really!").
While it did set up a few interesting things (the hints at Doflamingo's past and Luffy finally getting into the fight) it just felt too rushed for me. Nope, same here, didn't enjoy this chap as much as other people in this thread, nothing really happened...
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On June 26 2013 23:16 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 23:13 mavignon wrote: I am pretty sure DoFla go down this arc. He may still be relevant to the story though, especially if there is a World Nobles / Revolutionaries arc. Kinda like Crocodile has a part in the story but not as a villain anymore.
Blackbeard is 100% the final boss, how can people doubt that... seriously. i still think doflamingo could beat blackbeard in a 1on1, and ill fight you on this one. BB cant regenerate himself, so doflamingo could just dismember him with his strings 
Lol who cares who can beat who in the world of one piece. You could make a case for any top tier character in OP. The only things that matter is how the story has been told so far. Oda has been foreshadowing BB as the main villain for so many years.
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On June 26 2013 23:30 mavignon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 23:16 sc2holar wrote:On June 26 2013 23:13 mavignon wrote: I am pretty sure DoFla go down this arc. He may still be relevant to the story though, especially if there is a World Nobles / Revolutionaries arc. Kinda like Crocodile has a part in the story but not as a villain anymore.
Blackbeard is 100% the final boss, how can people doubt that... seriously. i still think doflamingo could beat blackbeard in a 1on1, and ill fight you on this one. BB cant regenerate himself, so doflamingo could just dismember him with his strings  Lol who cares who can beat who in the world of one piece. You could make a case for any top tier character in OP. The only things that matter is how the story has been told so far. Oda has been foreshadowing BB as the main villain for so many years. you are right on the first point of course, you could even make a case that god enel could solo everyone in the grand line if the rubber man had not stopped him.
the question is, if BB is the big last boss, where does Dragon and the revolutionaries come into the story? Oda has been foreshadowing him as a MAJOR end game player for the longest time...
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On June 26 2013 23:34 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 23:30 mavignon wrote:On June 26 2013 23:16 sc2holar wrote:On June 26 2013 23:13 mavignon wrote: I am pretty sure DoFla go down this arc. He may still be relevant to the story though, especially if there is a World Nobles / Revolutionaries arc. Kinda like Crocodile has a part in the story but not as a villain anymore.
Blackbeard is 100% the final boss, how can people doubt that... seriously. i still think doflamingo could beat blackbeard in a 1on1, and ill fight you on this one. BB cant regenerate himself, so doflamingo could just dismember him with his strings  Lol who cares who can beat who in the world of one piece. You could make a case for any top tier character in OP. The only things that matter is how the story has been told so far. Oda has been foreshadowing BB as the main villain for so many years. you are right on the first point of course, you could even make a case that god enel could solo everyone in the grand line if the rubber man had not stopped him. the question is, if BB is the big last boss, where does Dragon and the revolutionaries come into the story? Oda has been foreshadowing him as a MAJOR end game player for the longest time...
I think Dragon will come into play when we get to taking down the World Nobles and Blackbeard will be very close the where what One Piece is. But that is just a guess it could very well be so that Blackbeard is taken down before the last arc where Dragon gets to meet Luffy and they take down the world government.
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Doesnt matter how big he makes Dragon, he's not going to fight his own son for nothing, he's not even interested in One Piece. I see your sentence is abit confusing but ' Robin and her true story of the world' is where Dragon will come in.
There really shouldn't be a doubt whether or not BB will be the last boss. Plain and simple, he's Fkin strong. And a huge ass crew to back him up. And how Shounen and One Piece in general has been made up story-fights wise. The amount/setup of crew members of both BB and SH is similar.
And back to Violet, hope she really does join, the crew is in need of a better male/female ratio :D But then the whole Sanji no female joke is going to be abit messed up.
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The big reveal about Doflamingo having pulled this deception is that he has the political power to do that. One could have reasonably expected Doflamingo would be able to deliver a fake newspaper to the strawhats shipt and others in the area. Instead he was able spread the news of his retirement across the whole world including the marine force only to revoke that a couple hours later. Without having a good reason to do so. So basically he has similar power to the world government.
I know he didn't shout "dancing pink pink fist: global farce", but I still think this is an impressive reveal.
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I highly doubt DD is going to down in this arc or if he does it wont be to strawhats/Law. From the little bits we have seen of DD I think it seems he outclasses everyone in their alliance with ease in every field. I can see maybe in a couple of arcs from now when the big shit kicks of with kadiou DD being a boss fight for luffy or the entire crew but if he goes down in this or the next arc i shall be disappoint. SH 2 years of training shouldn't put them on the same level as someone who laughed through the marineford war, toys with WB Commanders, stomped an (albeit injured) smoker and didn't give a crap about Kuzan threatening him, all of which without even breaking a sweat or even getting his glasses moved a mm.
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On June 26 2013 23:40 DODswe4 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 23:34 sc2holar wrote:On June 26 2013 23:30 mavignon wrote:On June 26 2013 23:16 sc2holar wrote:On June 26 2013 23:13 mavignon wrote: I am pretty sure DoFla go down this arc. He may still be relevant to the story though, especially if there is a World Nobles / Revolutionaries arc. Kinda like Crocodile has a part in the story but not as a villain anymore.
Blackbeard is 100% the final boss, how can people doubt that... seriously. i still think doflamingo could beat blackbeard in a 1on1, and ill fight you on this one. BB cant regenerate himself, so doflamingo could just dismember him with his strings  Lol who cares who can beat who in the world of one piece. You could make a case for any top tier character in OP. The only things that matter is how the story has been told so far. Oda has been foreshadowing BB as the main villain for so many years. you are right on the first point of course, you could even make a case that god enel could solo everyone in the grand line if the rubber man had not stopped him. the question is, if BB is the big last boss, where does Dragon and the revolutionaries come into the story? Oda has been foreshadowing him as a MAJOR end game player for the longest time... I think Dragon will come into play when we get to taking down the World Nobles and Blackbeard will be very close the where what One Piece is. But that is just a guess it could very well be so that Blackbeard is taken down before the last arc where Dragon gets to meet Luffy and they take down the world government.
i always interpreted whitebeards last words, when he is shouting to sengoku, that someone will find one piece and THEN take down the world government. so i think luffy will fight BB for one piece, and then in the final arc team up with dragon and take on the world government.
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On June 26 2013 23:26 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 23:20 SecondManRex wrote: Seems I'm one of the few who found that chapter weak then. D:
The bit with Sanji and Violet was laughable at best, while Doflamingo's ruse was irritating (essentially being "I've left the Shichubukai... Jokes lol I didn't really!").
While it did set up a few interesting things (the hints at Doflamingo's past and Luffy finally getting into the fight) it just felt too rushed for me. Nope, same here, didn't enjoy this chap as much as other people in this thread, nothing really happened...
Imo, I enjoyed the chapter that much because, this is a major plot-twist in the conflict between Strawhats vs Doflamingo, AND it was pulled off with a good reasoning (Not like in other Shounen with *cough* genjutsu / time-travel *cough*).
And it also makes the villain more enjoyable as it shows, he has a brain and uses it for things which even we readers haven't predicted ... really ... no-one predicted the transfer of Ceasar to be a plot-twist, but it happended and leaves us with plenty room for speculation - thats Oda-style.
But yeah, it's open for you, whether you like it or not. I for myself like Oda-style of writing. I dont enjoy 30 chapters of fighting that much (Naruto)...
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Please don't turn into a rescue arc -_-
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On June 26 2013 23:49 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 23:40 DODswe4 wrote:On June 26 2013 23:34 sc2holar wrote:On June 26 2013 23:30 mavignon wrote:On June 26 2013 23:16 sc2holar wrote:On June 26 2013 23:13 mavignon wrote: I am pretty sure DoFla go down this arc. He may still be relevant to the story though, especially if there is a World Nobles / Revolutionaries arc. Kinda like Crocodile has a part in the story but not as a villain anymore.
Blackbeard is 100% the final boss, how can people doubt that... seriously. i still think doflamingo could beat blackbeard in a 1on1, and ill fight you on this one. BB cant regenerate himself, so doflamingo could just dismember him with his strings  Lol who cares who can beat who in the world of one piece. You could make a case for any top tier character in OP. The only things that matter is how the story has been told so far. Oda has been foreshadowing BB as the main villain for so many years. you are right on the first point of course, you could even make a case that god enel could solo everyone in the grand line if the rubber man had not stopped him. the question is, if BB is the big last boss, where does Dragon and the revolutionaries come into the story? Oda has been foreshadowing him as a MAJOR end game player for the longest time... I think Dragon will come into play when we get to taking down the World Nobles and Blackbeard will be very close the where what One Piece is. But that is just a guess it could very well be so that Blackbeard is taken down before the last arc where Dragon gets to meet Luffy and they take down the world government. i always interpreted whitebeards last words, when he is shouting to sengoku, that someone will find one piece and THEN take down the world government. so i think luffy will fight BB for one piece, and then in the final arc team up with dragon and take on the world government.
i could see them taking down the world government then the final arc being on raftel with the fight against BB
imo i dont really want anything to happen after finding one piece except some quick wrap up
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i love the amount of open storys and awesome characters doing their thing.
i wonder what aokiji is up to :D
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i still dont think akainu will let DF do w/e he wants cele dragon or not he hates all pirates and DF is a pirate doesnt matter if he has connections to them or not.
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On June 26 2013 22:05 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:This Chapter was one of the fines !! 20 pages of thrilling actions! I love how Sanji is a pevert and Violet turned 180° because of that ... hahahahaha ... I would love if Sanji somehow could get Violet *romance*  Her DF ability is also one of the most creative. Love her. Also, this chapter really confirms for me that Joker is a really really big fish ! He has everything to be a final final final villain ... power, influence, deceiving skills ... awesome. - My favorite villain so far. Doflamingo > Crocodile (he was cool too, but compared to Doflamingo, even he is too shallow ..., whereas Doflamingo seems to have it all.) Too bad she looks just as hancock & robin. The one where she sits and talks was exactly like Boa did. Else is fine but I wish she'd look reused.
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