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On March 04 2021 11:56 Hyperbola wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 04 2021 05:38 Dangermousecatdog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2021 08:47 cLutZ wrote:On March 03 2021 05:20 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On March 01 2021 09:26 Archeon wrote:
IIRC it comes from his chef boss, who had a similar "manly" spirit.
I agree though that it's been done to death. I hope he beats Jack in return. Really? I don't recalled that the chef ever had such a belief. That just makes Sanji's code worse. His code just comes out of nowhere then. Its from Zeff, yes. He literally (in the actual literal sense) beat, "never hit a woman" into Sanji. Just like why his hands are for cooking only, not fighting I honestly don't recall any of this. Ironic that apparently Zeff's has problems hitting women, but not defenceless children. Pretty sure I recall Zeff punching Sanji at one point too. Honestly speaking, being beaten is the worse reason for any set of beliefs, especially when it is an inconsistent set of beliefs. He has utterly no problem with hitting the elderly, or those weaker than he is, or of other people hitting women. The really odd thing is that nobody else seems to particularily care either. Chapter 842: ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/zDvpWoi.png) Not sure why Zeff thinks this way since he's been to the grand line and has seen powerful women with his own eyes. Did he never hear about Big Mom, Smoothie, Boa Hancock, or Catarina Devon? Granted, they aren't as common as men in pirate crews, but that doesn't mean you should never fight back when they're attacking you. You know this kinda makes me think that the reason Zeff never made it very far is because he encountered an enemy pirate crew with women in it and they just annihilated his crew because he never fought back. Thanks Hyperbola. I had completely forgotten. Been like 20 years I guess.
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New chapter's out.
+ Show Spoiler +It seems Hyogoro is some sort of Zoan user. Werewolf?
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marco redeeming himself finally. i assume within the next few chapters sanji appears to help marco? marco and sanji vs perospero, king and queen?
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On March 07 2021 00:06 evilfatsh1t wrote:
marco redeeming himself finally. i assume within the next few chapters sanji appears to help marco? marco and sanji vs perospero, king and queen?
That's not really on Sanji's path, remember he was wondering in the chapter whether to help the scabbards or Momonosuke. Those are too urgent to get sidetracked with a really major fight.
On March 06 2021 20:46 herMan wrote:New chapter's out. + Show Spoiler +It seems Hyogoro is some sort of Zoan user. Werewolf?
The fangs are from the virus he's infected with.
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well sanji 100% isnt going to help the scabbards imo.
that only leaves momonosuke but oda not showing what sanji decided on makes me think sanji ends up choosing something else entirely. if sanji doesnt help marco then who helps marco in the 1v3?
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I mean, the Hygora moment is also perfectly set up for Chopper to say, "i've done it" and then Hygora lives or (IMO better) dies with an epic attack.
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On March 06 2021 20:46 herMan wrote:New chapter's out. + Show Spoiler +It seems Hyogoro is some sort of Zoan user. Werewolf?
I just want to point out a Zoan Werewolf would just be a Zoan Wolf in partial transformation lol
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Haha, you're right!
I just thought it has to be some sort of devil fruit, how does a dwarf become this huge ass man with a big belly?
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On March 07 2021 19:17 herMan wrote:
Haha, you're right!
I just thought it has to be some sort of devil fruit, how does a dwarf become this huge ass man with a big belly?
That's how he looked in his prime so the virus has to be doing some sort of drawing out inner strength. It's like old man Lao G of the Donquixote Pirates turning buff.
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Lao G's ability to return to his youth is surely one of the strangest things in One Piece. No devil fruit, no haki training, he was just an old man who kicked ass with pure training. Till suddenly he turned into muscleman.
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One Piece actually has a wide variety of characters with wacky powers, they're just completely overshadowed by the existence of haki and devil fruits. For example, Jango has hypnotism powers, Raizo has ninja magic, Mrs. Goldenweek can use magic paint, Brook can use his music offensively, and basically all of Rokushiki. Lao G's ability to store power that he can use later isn't even the strangest thing about him. If you recall, at one point he literally died from old age and then pulled his soul back into his body and revived himself. That's some Yomi Yomi no mi shit right there.
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On March 09 2021 00:46 Hyperbola wrote:
One Piece actually has a wide variety of characters with wacky powers, they're just completely overshadowed by the existence of haki and devil fruits. For example, Jango has hypnotism powers, Raizo has ninja magic, Mrs. Goldenweek can use magic paint, Brook can use his music offensively, and basically all of Rokushiki. Lao G's ability to store power that he can use later isn't even the strangest thing about him. If you recall, at one point he literally died from old age and then pulled his soul back into his body and revived himself. That's some Yomi Yomi no mi shit right there.
Cavendish/Hakuba's split personality, a conehead whose point was so strong he could split continents, Usopp creating realities from his stories
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Ugh yeah, I vaguely remember the "is rokushiki haki" debate. Wasn't the consensus that it wasn't, dudes got those powers by training and other techniques?
I'm wondering now that Lucci and Kaku are in the New World and surely know about Haki, does it augment their previous powers in any way.
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On March 09 2021 23:37 herMan wrote:
Ugh yeah, I vaguely remember the "is rokushiki haki" debate. Wasn't the consensus that it wasn't, dudes got those powers by training and other techniques?
I'm wondering now that Lucci and Kaku are in the New World and surely know about Haki, does it augment their previous powers in any way.
I honestly think Rokushiki was the original idea and then Oda didn't really like it, so he also introduced Haki. Haki as a power system is 9999999x better than Rokushiki IMO
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I thought Rokushiki was great when it was introduced, however it would have gotten pretty stale in the long run if it was showcased more.
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On March 10 2021 00:46 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2021 23:37 herMan wrote:
Ugh yeah, I vaguely remember the "is rokushiki haki" debate. Wasn't the consensus that it wasn't, dudes got those powers by training and other techniques?
I'm wondering now that Lucci and Kaku are in the New World and surely know about Haki, does it augment their previous powers in any way. I honestly think Rokushiki was the original idea and then Oda didn't really like it, so he also introduced Haki. Haki as a power system is 9999999x better than Rokushiki IMO
Head cannon for me would be thy rokushiki is both a useful combat training regime even for those who don't achieve Haki, and a sort of training as a way to try and bloom armament haki.
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Eh, I don't really see it that way. It seemed like a martial art designed by the navy to combat piracy but then widely adopted by Cipher Pol due to its extreme usefulness. Haki is great and all but it doesn't really enable you to move at lighting fast speeds or give you the ability to fly through the air or turn your finger into a gun. It also makes sense for undercover agents to develop such crazy mobility and turn their bodies into weapons so they don't have to lug a giant sword around and can stay clandestine more easily.
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It doesn't make much sense either way imo, there is nothing less secretive than flying though the air and in one piece people don't really need weapons thanks to DFs and Haki. The gun part was mainly a real life reference and worked because Haki didn't exist imo.
I definitely see the similarities as a general all-purpose powerup. Like the defensive rokushiki is basically the hardening haki with less control, the finger gun thing (that was used with all kinds of things) is basically just offensive haki that increases the damage, but more limited to an attack pattern. The only thing haki can't replace is the air jump, but then again Luffy has been doing that with gear 4. And naturally there are a bunch of other haki things like conqueror's or foresight that rokushiki can't replace.
I thought Lucci's speed was more training related than to the air-jump, the other cp9 weren't particularly fast in comparison to the SHs. Like Zorro never had any problem with Kaku's speed f.e..
Imo rokushiki was cool when Oda used it to hype them up or when Kaku jumped through water 7, but once they actually fought I didn't think rokushiki made the fights more interesting. I prefer logia matchups any day over "this guy has better Haki, so he wins the trades" or "I have a super hard body. " "ok then I hit you hard". It just feels too linear to me.
Getting better haki has replaced other terms of progression quite a bit and I prefer it if they need to find out the way to beat the quirks of a DF over getting a trainings arc where they learn Haki to overcome Haki.
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I wrote Lao G's ability to return to his youth is surely one of the strangest things in One Piece because it just seems to come out of nowhere, whereas all the other strange powers in One Piece are either established in universe or well worn manga tropes. Lao G? He's a martial artist who suddenly just gain muscles out of nowhere because he randomly regains his youthful muscles. Usopp doesn't create realities from his stories. The reality is there and happens to match with his many stories. The giants and dwarfs don't exist becuase his stories exist, they have always existed and his stories somewhat matches their continued existence along his travels.
Pretty sure Oda intended Rokushiki to be what haki is now. I don't think they were originally intended to be separate. It's kind of awkward that both exist together and are vaguely similar in some respects especially when people who should know about haki previously in the story are seemingly ignorant about it.
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On March 12 2021 05:56 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I wrote Lao G's ability to return to his youth is surely one of the strangest things in One Piece because it just seems to come out of nowhere, whereas all the other strange powers in One Piece are either established in universe or well worn manga tropes. Lao G? He's a martial artist who suddenly just gain muscles out of nowhere because he randomly regains his youthful muscles. Usopp doesn't create realities from his stories. The reality is there and happens to match with his many stories. The giants and dwarfs don't exist becuase his stories exist, they have always existed and his stories somewhat matches their continued existence along his travels.
Pretty sure Oda intended Rokushiki to be what haki is now. I don't think they were originally intended to be separate. It's kind of awkward that both exist together and are vaguely similar in some respects especially when people who should know about haki previously in the story are seemingly ignorant about it.
Master Roshi has always had the old guy grows muscles power.
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