EPTis bon clay at this war suddenly? wtf is going on
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8669 Posts
is bon clay at this war suddenly? wtf is going on | ||
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Hyperbola
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Elentos
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Sentenal
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ShiaoPi
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Shellshock
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Elentos
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On March 13 2021 16:39 Shellshock wrote: Some people think it’s Catarina Devon from Blackbeard’s crew setting up for him crashing the party Because if there's anything this party needs it's more Yonkou. Surely if there's a Yonkou kingdom Blackbeard wants to visit right now it's the mostly undefended Whole Cake Island. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15690 Posts
The one thing that is really strange is how this Oden has both swords. Zoro is currently using one of those swords. The other one is stashed somewhere, right? That's a big part of what makes this feel like a clear rouse. Someone like Devon might not know Zoro has Enma yet, right? But I think Kanjuro knew about Zoro getting Enma, so it doesn't make sense Kanjuro would draw Oden with the sword. Bon Clay is 32 years old. It is possible that he actually did have some kind of contact with Oden early in his life and we just have had no idea. According to wiki, Bon Clay is 32 years old and ate the devil fruit at age 12. So that's exactly 20 years ago. Suspicious. Its also important to note that this Oden basically said a bunch of really easy things to say. Haven't seen you for a long time and you look beat up. That's easy. Though I am still not dismissing the idea this is straight up Oden. Since Momonosuke was never taught how to read the ponyglyphs, Robin is the only one who knows right now, right? For some reason I had it in my mind that Oden had some type of passed down knowledge that not even Robin had. Am I forgetting something? Or was it just how to read the ponyglyphs? For some reason I remember thinking "Wait, if Oden died before he could pass ____ information on to Momo, that must mean he gets revived at some point, otherwise that would be crucial information that is lost". I honestly feel like there is a 20-30% chance its actually Oden. | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
Kanjuro could draw Oden to lead them in a trap (or help them and get his redemption arc) Onimaru is known to be able to transform into a human (Gyukimaru). Kitsune are said to be able to shapeshift in any human form, so it's possible he could also transform into Oden and help them. I think it's a strong possibility with what could have been Hiyori (or Toki) healing them earlier Oden wrote a journal which Yamato has now and shown it to Momo, any information could be in there | ||
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Mohdoo
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On March 14 2021 03:02 Yhamm wrote: The Oden at the end got 2 swords and they look nothing like Enma or Ame no Habakiri, so it doesn't say anything if it's the real Oden or not. Kanjuro could draw Oden to lead them in a trap (or help them and get his redemption arc) Onimaru is known to be able to transform into a human (Gyukimaru). Kitsune are said to be able to shapeshift in any human form, so it's possible he could also transform into Oden and help them. I think it's a strong possibility with what could have been Hiyori (or Toki) healing them earlier Oden wrote a journal which Yamato has now and shown it to Momo, any information could be in there To your point, swords for comparison: ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/BAIU135.png) Color of sheaths same, slight differences. | ||
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Yhamm
France7248 Posts
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Slaughter
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Elentos
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On March 14 2021 02:41 Mohdoo wrote: Notice that it says "no younger than 12" on the wiki. The person who had the fruit before Bon Clay is in the Oden flashback (and dies off-panel).Bon Clay is 32 years old. It is possible that he actually did have some kind of contact with Oden early in his life and we just have had no idea. According to wiki, Bon Clay is 32 years old and ate the devil fruit at age 12. So that's exactly 20 years ago. Suspicious. | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2539 Posts
And this is 100% not the real Oden. Oda killed him off and he did the D smile, indicating that he's dead. Unless Toki decided to do some time fuckery. However, as far as we know, she can only go into the future, not the past, so she can't pluck Oden out of the past and then send him back. For a time travel fruit, her abilities are quite linear. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Sentenal
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CHEONSOYUN
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On March 13 2021 16:39 Shellshock wrote: Some people think it’s Catarina Devon from Blackbeard’s crew setting up for him crashing the party her devil fruit would fit into the setting of this arc | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15690 Posts
The power of this fruit is similar to Bentham's Mane Mane no Mi and Charlotte Brûlée's Mira Mira no Mi, as they all allow the user to impersonate other people. Unlike the former, however, this fruit's power allows the user to even transform their clothes, and unlike the latter, the transformation is not a mirror image. Does this mean her devil fruit is strictly better than bon-chan's? Oh never mind, this is saying she doesn't copy the person's strengths or physical non-fruit abilities. On this topic, is Marco's devil fruit strictly better than Ace/Sabo's? | ||
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Elentos
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We know that Akainu's fruit is a straight upgrade on Ace/Sabo as well. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On March 20 2021 00:22 Mohdoo wrote: From the wiki regarding Catarina's power: Does this mean her devil fruit is strictly better than bon-chan's? Oh never mind, this is saying she doesn't copy the person's strengths or physical non-fruit abilities. On this topic, is Marco's devil fruit strictly better than Ace/Sabo's? Marcos fruit is probably not strictly better. As you see in Ace's story and sorta mentioned by Pekoms, logias just let you curbstomp the 1st half of the grand line. Tora-tora: Phoenix has never shown that level of offensive power. Its almost strictly a defensive fruit and Marco's huge stamina is probably also needed to fuel it. | ||
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