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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 17 2021 16:45 GMT
#31161
Aokiji to BB could be a real alliance, but its just as likely to be a Sword play to monitor and minimize the damage of whatever happens with that crew. He is obviously the most disruptive of the Yonko, at least until the Big Mom-Kaido alliance.
Freeeeeeedom
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
February 17 2021 21:39 GMT
#31162
On February 17 2021 06:26 Mohdoo wrote:
I was laying in bed and realized we still don’t have a damn clue what that bridge being built for hundreds of years is intended for.

Oh my god. I think I haven't thought of that bridge since more than a decade. Literally, I was rewatching everything in 2009 up to the point wherever the anime was in 2009. Jesus christ. How many other such things are there? Is there a list of open questions somewhere?
The heart's eternal vow
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 17 2021 23:52 GMT
#31163
On February 18 2021 06:39 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2021 06:26 Mohdoo wrote:
I was laying in bed and realized we still don’t have a damn clue what that bridge being built for hundreds of years is intended for.

Oh my god. I think I haven't thought of that bridge since more than a decade. Literally, I was rewatching everything in 2009 up to the point wherever the anime was in 2009. Jesus christ. How many other such things are there? Is there a list of open questions somewhere?

That would be an extremely long list.

Its one of the features of the series is questions which have anticipation, and a lot have payoffs, like Poseidon and Shirahoshi. Others like Enel on the moon have not (Uranus?), or were set up fairly recently, like Im and the frozen straw hat.
Freeeeeeedom
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 18 2021 16:41 GMT
#31164
On February 18 2021 08:52 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2021 06:39 PVJ wrote:
On February 17 2021 06:26 Mohdoo wrote:
I was laying in bed and realized we still don’t have a damn clue what that bridge being built for hundreds of years is intended for.

Oh my god. I think I haven't thought of that bridge since more than a decade. Literally, I was rewatching everything in 2009 up to the point wherever the anime was in 2009. Jesus christ. How many other such things are there? Is there a list of open questions somewhere?

That would be an extremely long list.

Its one of the features of the series is questions which have anticipation, and a lot have payoffs, like Poseidon and Shirahoshi. Others like Enel on the moon have not (Uranus?), or were set up fairly recently, like Im and the frozen straw hat.


Whoa, I had no idea about this Enel moon stuff. Just watching the anime until episode 900, I had no idea this existed. Is it considered canon? There's so much mystery around the moon.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 18 2021 16:54 GMT
#31165
On February 19 2021 01:41 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2021 08:52 cLutZ wrote:
On February 18 2021 06:39 PVJ wrote:
On February 17 2021 06:26 Mohdoo wrote:
I was laying in bed and realized we still don’t have a damn clue what that bridge being built for hundreds of years is intended for.

Oh my god. I think I haven't thought of that bridge since more than a decade. Literally, I was rewatching everything in 2009 up to the point wherever the anime was in 2009. Jesus christ. How many other such things are there? Is there a list of open questions somewhere?

That would be an extremely long list.

Its one of the features of the series is questions which have anticipation, and a lot have payoffs, like Poseidon and Shirahoshi. Others like Enel on the moon have not (Uranus?), or were set up fairly recently, like Im and the frozen straw hat.


Whoa, I had no idea about this Enel moon stuff. Just watching the anime until episode 900, I had no idea this existed. Is it considered canon? There's so much mystery around the moon.

It was a cover story in the manga, and AFAIK all the cover stories are canon. Not all of them made it to the anime, but some have like Buggy's adventures finding his crew before getting to Loguetown, or Coby and Helmeppo getting taken in by Garp (the anime embellishes these stories a bit, though).
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 18 2021 18:18 GMT
#31166
On February 19 2021 01:54 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2021 01:41 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 18 2021 08:52 cLutZ wrote:
On February 18 2021 06:39 PVJ wrote:
On February 17 2021 06:26 Mohdoo wrote:
I was laying in bed and realized we still don’t have a damn clue what that bridge being built for hundreds of years is intended for.

Oh my god. I think I haven't thought of that bridge since more than a decade. Literally, I was rewatching everything in 2009 up to the point wherever the anime was in 2009. Jesus christ. How many other such things are there? Is there a list of open questions somewhere?

That would be an extremely long list.

Its one of the features of the series is questions which have anticipation, and a lot have payoffs, like Poseidon and Shirahoshi. Others like Enel on the moon have not (Uranus?), or were set up fairly recently, like Im and the frozen straw hat.


Whoa, I had no idea about this Enel moon stuff. Just watching the anime until episode 900, I had no idea this existed. Is it considered canon? There's so much mystery around the moon.

It was a cover story in the manga, and AFAIK all the cover stories are canon. Not all of them made it to the anime, but some have like Buggy's adventures finding his crew before getting to Loguetown, or Coby and Helmeppo getting taken in by Garp (the anime embellishes these stories a bit, though).


Well shit now I need to find a way to read all the cover stories
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 18 2021 19:48 GMT
#31167
On February 19 2021 01:54 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2021 01:41 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 18 2021 08:52 cLutZ wrote:
On February 18 2021 06:39 PVJ wrote:
On February 17 2021 06:26 Mohdoo wrote:
I was laying in bed and realized we still don’t have a damn clue what that bridge being built for hundreds of years is intended for.

Oh my god. I think I haven't thought of that bridge since more than a decade. Literally, I was rewatching everything in 2009 up to the point wherever the anime was in 2009. Jesus christ. How many other such things are there? Is there a list of open questions somewhere?

That would be an extremely long list.

Its one of the features of the series is questions which have anticipation, and a lot have payoffs, like Poseidon and Shirahoshi. Others like Enel on the moon have not (Uranus?), or were set up fairly recently, like Im and the frozen straw hat.


Whoa, I had no idea about this Enel moon stuff. Just watching the anime until episode 900, I had no idea this existed. Is it considered canon? There's so much mystery around the moon.

It was a cover story in the manga, and AFAIK all the cover stories are canon. Not all of them made it to the anime, but some have like Buggy's adventures finding his crew before getting to Loguetown, or Coby and Helmeppo getting taken in by Garp (the anime embellishes these stories a bit, though).


Yeah. There are a lot of cover stories. Most of Ace's pursuit of Blackbeard was done in cover stories.

On February 19 2021 03:18 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2021 01:54 Sentenal wrote:
On February 19 2021 01:41 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 18 2021 08:52 cLutZ wrote:
On February 18 2021 06:39 PVJ wrote:
On February 17 2021 06:26 Mohdoo wrote:
I was laying in bed and realized we still don’t have a damn clue what that bridge being built for hundreds of years is intended for.

Oh my god. I think I haven't thought of that bridge since more than a decade. Literally, I was rewatching everything in 2009 up to the point wherever the anime was in 2009. Jesus christ. How many other such things are there? Is there a list of open questions somewhere?

That would be an extremely long list.

Its one of the features of the series is questions which have anticipation, and a lot have payoffs, like Poseidon and Shirahoshi. Others like Enel on the moon have not (Uranus?), or were set up fairly recently, like Im and the frozen straw hat.


Whoa, I had no idea about this Enel moon stuff. Just watching the anime until episode 900, I had no idea this existed. Is it considered canon? There's so much mystery around the moon.

It was a cover story in the manga, and AFAIK all the cover stories are canon. Not all of them made it to the anime, but some have like Buggy's adventures finding his crew before getting to Loguetown, or Coby and Helmeppo getting taken in by Garp (the anime embellishes these stories a bit, though).


Well shit now I need to find a way to read all the cover stories


+ Show Spoiler +

https://ww8.readonepiece.com/
Freeeeeeedom
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
February 26 2021 10:32 GMT
#31168
https://onepiecechapters.com/manga/one-piece-chapter-1005/
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8871 Posts
February 26 2021 12:42 GMT
#31169
momonosuke the real winner
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
February 26 2021 14:43 GMT
#31170
Sanji has fallen to an even lower level of incompetence. He's been nothing but a constant source of problems for the crew since the timeskip. The dude's gotta get it together.

At least we get a cool robin fight though.
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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4568 Posts
February 26 2021 17:26 GMT
#31171
How so? Sanji knows he cant fight with a female so he called for help. That was mature of him rather than attempting to keep silence and tank more damage
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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-26 19:59:35
February 26 2021 19:56 GMT
#31172
Well let's have a look at his track record shall we?
1. Pervert nose bleeds caused major problems for the crew during fishman island and almost led to him dying from bloodloss. Sanji then didn't contribute in any way to the arc after that.
2. Lost to Vergo in one hit on Punk Hazard. Broke his leg and was useless the rest of the arc.
3. Landed one hit on Doflamingo and then had to be rescued during by Law in Dressrosa. Was useless the entire arc.
4. Got captured on Zou. Led to Straw Hats being forced to invade Whole Cake.
5. Wound up attacking Luffy on Whole Cake and causing him to hunger strike. Could have very well led to Luffy's death.
6. Created and fed Big Mom the wedding cake, making her snap out of her berserk state and regroup with her crew to kill the Straw Hats.
7. I cannot stress the above point enough. Sanji literally fed the enemy team and is directly responsible for Big Mom's presence in Wano. The Straw Hats are facing two Yonko now 100% because of Sanji's actions.

And that brings us to this chapter. Not only is Sanji's incel code preventing him from fighting back against enemy pirates just because they're female, but he's also putting the rest of his crew in danger by leading them into a trap. The only reason Robin wasn't captured was because of Brook and that she's a far more competent crew member than Sanji.

And lastly, Sanji hasn't won a major fight since the timeskip. He's been constantly losing and being the butt of everyone's jokes. He is a complete liability to the Straw Hats in every possible way.
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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
February 26 2021 20:18 GMT
#31173
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
February 27 2021 07:57 GMT
#31174
Arent you belittling Robin & Brook when you suppose they will be in 'danger' more than him just because they will have to take a fight they willingly go to help while - as you can see and read it - they are totally aware of the trap and are entirely fine in making this decision? Do you think they were trying to avoid danger and would have succeeded doing so on this island of war? Do you think they can't decide for themselves or do you think whatever they say in their dialogue can't be taken at face value? My answer after reading this chapter is 'no' to all but I might be not entirely neutral, Brook and Robin are my favourite duo, yohohoho!
The heart's eternal vow
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-27 08:39:13
February 27 2021 08:35 GMT
#31175
On February 27 2021 16:57 PVJ wrote:
Arent you belittling Robin & Brook when you suppose they will be in 'danger' more than him just because they will have to take a fight they willingly go to help while - as you can see and read it - they are totally aware of the trap and are entirely fine in making this decision? Do you think they were trying to avoid danger and would have succeeded doing so on this island of war? Do you think they can't decide for themselves or do you think whatever they say in their dialogue can't be taken at face value? My answer after reading this chapter is 'no' to all but I might be not entirely neutral, Brook and Robin are my favourite duo, yohohoho!


Loyal one piece fans will always protect one piece it seems. Sanji is a joke character now and its painful to even see him like this. Loved the dude pre time skip and his introduction at baratie but its becoming apparent that oda is becoming worse at managing millions of characters and convoluted plotlines. Like i said before, we’re in yonko territory, facing two yonkos at same time. We kept hearing how dangerous grandline was when luffy was just a no name pirate. We kept hearing how everyone gets slapped and rekt in new world because of the yonkos. Yet here we are and not a slightest danger once again. The crew holding on to their outdated shit tier perspective. Sanji still not evolving and not undergoing a complex character development which is needed for the story to be more rich and interesting. Nothing has changed. Sanji will face big mom and see luffy die and won’t even lift a finger. Oh wait luffy can’t die! Even if he faces 4 yonkos he will survive cuz it dont matter. There is no danger! Like Oda seriously? Who gives a shit about robin, nami, and other shit tier characters that are just there to fill needed plot line? You introduced so many characters, focusing soley on non strawhats ever since time skip and then acting like we WANT these scenes to show up again. Majority of one piece viewers no longer give a shit about other strawhats except luffy and zoro. The story is generating interest only when big players show up cuz oda continues to do jack shit to characters like sanji. Everyone else is boring af except big players now.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8871 Posts
February 27 2021 08:44 GMT
#31176
On February 27 2021 17:35 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2021 16:57 PVJ wrote:
Arent you belittling Robin & Brook when you suppose they will be in 'danger' more than him just because they will have to take a fight they willingly go to help while - as you can see and read it - they are totally aware of the trap and are entirely fine in making this decision? Do you think they were trying to avoid danger and would have succeeded doing so on this island of war? Do you think they can't decide for themselves or do you think whatever they say in their dialogue can't be taken at face value? My answer after reading this chapter is 'no' to all but I might be not entirely neutral, Brook and Robin are my favourite duo, yohohoho!


Loyal one piece fans will always protect one piece it seems. Sanji is a joke character now and its painful to even see him like this. Loved the dude pre time skip and his introduction at baratie but its becoming apparent that oda is becoming worse at managing millions of characters and convoluted plotlines. Like i said before, we’re in yonko territory, facing two yonkos at same time. We kept hearing how dangerous grandline was when luffy was just a no name pirate. We kept hearing how everyone gets slapped and rekt in new world because of the yonkos. Yet here we are and not a slightest danger once again. The crew holding on to their outdated shit tier perspective. Sanji still not evolving and not undergoing a complex character development which is needed for the story to be more rich and interesting. Nothing has changed. Sanji will face big mom and see luffy die and won’t even lift a finger. Oh wait luffy can’t die! Even if he faces 4 yonkos he will survive cuz it dont matter. There is no danger! Like Oda seriously? Who gives a shit about robin, nami, and other shit tier characters that are just there to fill needed plot line? You introduced so many characters, focusing soley on non strawhats ever since time skip and then acting like we WANT these scenes to show up again. Majority of one piece viewers no longer give a shit about other strawhats except luffy and zoro. The story is generating interest only when big players show up cuz oda continues to do jack shit to characters like sanji. Everyone else is boring af except big players now.

why do you even read one piece? seriously.
the only thing old and boring is you and hyperbola constantly shitting up this thread with complaints. just stop reading if it annoys you that much
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
February 27 2021 09:27 GMT
#31177
I will say, Sanji has been pretty disappointing, though I disagree entirely about him making the cake being a bad thing, I will never not be a sucker for the main protagonist group being nice to their enemies, and given Sanji's status as a chef and the significance of creating a cake that Big Mom loved I thought that was a great moment.

He has been constantly getting his ass kicked though, its kind of the opposite of Zoro who 'til he fought Killer basically looked like an absolute machine, lol.

We need to get our boy to his big Yonkou Lieutenant fight so he can finally have a proper win in a battle on his record post-time skip
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 27 2021 17:27 GMT
#31178
On February 27 2021 18:27 Zambrah wrote:
I will say, Sanji has been pretty disappointing, though I disagree entirely about him making the cake being a bad thing, I will never not be a sucker for the main protagonist group being nice to their enemies, and given Sanji's status as a chef and the significance of creating a cake that Big Mom loved I thought that was a great moment.

He has been constantly getting his ass kicked though, its kind of the opposite of Zoro who 'til he fought Killer basically looked like an absolute machine, lol.

We need to get our boy to his big Yonkou Lieutenant fight so he can finally have a proper win in a battle on his record post-time skip


I mean, more or less confirmed he's going to fight Jack right now, and if one of the 6 gets in his way it will probably be a route just like with Page 1.
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
February 27 2021 19:33 GMT
#31179
I just think Hyperbola's reasoning (and I'm only focusing on 1 point about this fight not the others as you might've noticed) made it look like only Sanji has any agency and that Robin would he hiding away from danger which sounded dumb. I have been following the series for cca 15 years but so do you if tou post here in 2021 so that makes each of us loyal to a point? But if loyal means I am in awe and think of it as pinnacle of culture, Japanese or otherwise I would defer.

There are quite some valid points to bring up about Sanji but the way they are brought up and the context provided or missed is surprisingly tone deaf. Even the constant eneling 2016ish in this thread was better banter in my opinion.

And I personally think we still will get to see Zoro suffer and Sanji roll but even if not why would we need totally synchronised character developments and W-L ratios in a team of 10?

And to be on topic it's been a while since Robin was in the front and center of a great fight and I'm very much enjoying this one she got herself into
The heart's eternal vow
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 27 2021 19:49 GMT
#31180
I agree. If i am being honest, I don't really care about Sanji's lack of combat wins, what I actually am disappointed with is his lack of giving people food buffs. Coming out of the timeskip I basically thought Sanji was going to be the equivalent of my wow Paladin when I maxed cooking and just gave my team sweet food buffs, plus all the paladin buffs. Given that this is Wano, ostensibly the Japanese island, Oda should have stolen Choji's food pills and had Sanji give them to the Straw hats.
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