EPTRule of cool is definitely a thing in One piece and who knows whether or not Oda understands how mountains and rock work or cares enough to implement it realistically.
Which I believe is a fair, albeit boring hypothesis.
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Archeon
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Rule of cool is definitely a thing in One piece and who knows whether or not Oda understands how mountains and rock work or cares enough to implement it realistically. Which I believe is a fair, albeit boring hypothesis. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On December 05 2020 03:25 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Imagine using cartoon logic to try to persuade others that a fantasy situation occurs in real life? Woah... You are seriously arguing that you saw something in a cartoon/game so it must be real in real life. Some people might had learnt that islands don't float on water, or sit on soil, that carrots and turnips can't be lifted by their roots, that some preconceptions do not reflect reality and might try to think what other preconceptions also do not reflect reality. You however just keep going. I wonder what else you will say next. If something is written in One Piece and something is unrealistic and you thought otherwise, but is wrong, just accept it. Don't double down and start writing about how you can pull carrots out by their stems because you can lift turnips in Mario by their stems. It's OK if Mario lets you pull turnips out by their stems. It's not OK to argue this is real life. It's OK if something unrealistic occurs in the fantasy world One Piece. What's not ok is to double down on ignorance and insist that fantasy world logic applies to real life. In real life islands are not rocks floating on water. I really don't understand what you are babbling about lol. You were throwing a tantrum that Kaidou picked up a really big rock in a fictional manga, and started ranting about how this fictional manga about a dude made of rubber who fights a clown who can split into pieces isn't being realistic because of where Kaido gripped said rock, and when explained to that just maybe this fictional story, where they had a gun eats a fruit to turn into a dog and a sword turn into an elephant, uses fictional rules, you start saying I'm applying fantasy world stuff to real life? Sorry to break it to you, but I'm appling "fantasy world logic" to One Piece, which is a fantasy world. Kaidou isn't lifting a mountain IRL. Kaido isn't real. Sorry to ruin it for you, since apparently you thought this story was non-fiction. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On December 05 2020 02:03 Dangermousecatdog wrote: I'm educating you for free for applying cartoon logic to real life. Talking about pulling carrots in Mario? I've grown and harvested carrots. Hence cartoon logic meets reality. One Piece is a world where we accept people have supernatural powers. However nothing indicates that in One Piece, you can pull carrots up by their stems to my recollection. Oda has clearly drawn the island being lifted from underneath, so I don't know why you are talking about pulling anyways. You are applying not only Mario turnip pulling logic to real life but imagining something that is the opposite of what is being depicted. In One Piece nothing indicates that islands are rocks floating on water and so can be lifted underneath by gases without having to cut into the rock that is the island. Though we have Sky Islands made out of clouds so there's that I suppose. You can just tear the top of the mountain off The gases are under the island. My guy its a still image showing the aftermath of ripping the top off of a mountain, the clouds are underneath it to help keep it floating, they lift it up around the edges with enough force to break the top off and then go underneath of it to fly it elsewhere | ||
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Zexion
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Shellshock
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Dangermousecatdog
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On December 05 2020 08:04 Sentenal wrote: I really don't understand what you are babbling about lol. You were throwing a tantrum that Kaidou picked up a really big rock in a fictional manga, and started ranting about how this fictional manga about a dude made of rubber who fights a clown who can split into pieces isn't being realistic because of where Kaido gripped said rock, and when explained to that just maybe this fictional story, where they had a gun eats a fruit to turn into a dog and a sword turn into an elephant, uses fictional rules, you start saying I'm applying fantasy world stuff to real life? Sorry to break it to you, but I'm appling "fantasy world logic" to One Piece, which is a fantasy world. Kaidou isn't lifting a mountain IRL. Kaido isn't real. Sorry to ruin it for you, since apparently you thought this story was non-fiction. You tried to apply real life logic (badly) to argue against Hyperbola. I just continued to show that your real life logic is false. But now you are arguing that you cannot compare real physics to fantasy. Well, I think you scored an own goal with that one. I converse calmly with logic and facts in the face of multiple posters and you argue with "babbling" and " throwing a tantrum" and "ranting". I wonder who is truly throwing a tantrum here? In the end, you must acknowledge that Hyperbola is right. Kaido must have the ability with his gas to cut rock with his gas before lifting the tip of the island. As that's what is being visually depicted. What you think is the island being lifted is just the tip of the island being broken and then lifted. Anyways, I think I worked out that you guys don't understand material physics. So I'll explain this as simply as possible. Rock is not play-doh. (Or metal but lets ignore that for now.) Applying compressive force to pull rock apart will not have the fracture mode neccessary to cause the breakage you are envisioning, even if gas had the pressure to cause the friction needed. It will instead apply either compressive or shear forces which will either cause micro destruction at the contact point well before any forces necessary for a brittle fracture. Basically the rock will have to have multiple fractures into smaller pieces at the contact point which can be simplified as being sheared apart i.e. being cut. Also how many times, must I write that One Piece is a fantasy world. It's OK for a fantasy world to have fantasy physics. What's not OK is to try to justify fantasy with bogus physics and geography and pretend that is reality. Islands do not float on water in real life, they do not sit on a foundation of soil and carrots are not pulled up from their stem, you can't snap off the tip of a table with force, and car roofs do not magically snap off at the pillars when forces are applied to them. On December 05 2020 09:49 Zambrah wrote: But Zambrah, this story is non-fiction? What are you doing? I think you and Sentenal need to sort something out there.You can just tear the top of the mountain off My guy its a still image showing the aftermath of ripping the top off of a mountain, the clouds are underneath it to help keep it floating, they lift it up around the edges with enough force to break the top off and then go underneath of it to fly it elsewhere Are you even reading what was written? That what I am saying. An island is a mountain in a sea. Oda has actually drawn this when he was showing how the islands were arranged. Oda draws what everybody else is calling an island floating on gas, but that is not the island itself, it is the tip of an island. Which must be broken in the first place. Islands are not turnips in Mario, don't beleive Sentenal. I can't tell if you guys are just having a knee jerk reaction against hyperbola who is right about something for once, or are just incapable of understanding new information that doesn't fit old preconceptions. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
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On December 06 2020 07:22 Zexion wrote: It'll be a pretty pointless thread if all we did was sing praises of One Piece.Is this thread even about One Piece lol? It's not the One Piece thread unless we are arguing about something utterly trivial. Beats arguing about the nature of honour anyways. | ||
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Shellshock
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PVJ
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Dangermousecatdog
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On December 07 2020 03:52 Shellshock wrote: Does gravity even work the same way as in One Piece? There are sky islands in One Piece so who knows how the moon works. On the other hand we know the One Piece world is a spherical planet just like ours, their moon is a moon just like our ours but with less robots, and their moon even has a full moon once a month implying that they have the exact same star system as we do. since Enel lives on the moon and everything is one piece is an island is the moon an island in the sky? Which implies that it is the same universe as ours, only set five thousand years in the future. Joy Boy is a robot from the singularity and the Will of D is a genetically engineered strain of recessive genes that pops up from generation to generation that has the same set of behaviourial characterics. We are the ancient civilisation. tldr: The source of Sulong power is Enel. | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
On December 07 2020 22:43 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Does gravity even work the same way as in One Piece? There are sky islands in One Piece so who knows how the moon works. On the other hand we know the One Piece world is a spherical planet just like ours, their moon is a moon just like our ours but with less robots, and their moon even has a full moon once a month implying that they have the exact same star system as we do. Which implies that it is the same universe as ours, only set five thousand years in the future. Joy Boy is a robot from the singularity and the Will of D is a genetically engineered strain of recessive genes that pops up from generation to generation that has the same set of behaviourial characterics. We are the ancient civilisation. tldr: The source of Sulong power is Enel. Here's a bunch of gerbils using balloons to fly to the moon: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/q5o8xnJ.png) Either gravity works differently or there's air in space? In which case at least gasses work differently. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
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So there are a few possibilities. The moon orbits round the One Piece World in its atmosphere. Which implies non-newtonian physics. That's no moon, it's a space station. Like the ISS in LEO frequently uses propellant to maintain orbit. The balloons aren't actually balloons and the moon orbits in the vacuum of space. The balloons are just a coincidence and the picture has nothing to do with flying to the moon. Or Oda fucked up because Oda is a mangaka drawing something he thinks is interesting or a reader request. Don't tell some people in the thread that though; they will try to persuade you with dubious analogies that you can totally fly to the moon with balloons or the Moon has an atmosphere or something. | ||
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Zexion
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On December 06 2020 23:47 Dangermousecatdog wrote: It'll be a pretty pointless thread if all we did was sing praises of One Piece. It's not the One Piece thread unless we are arguing about something utterly trivial. Beats arguing about the nature of honour anyways. Who said anything about only singing praises? Don't create strawman arguments please. Just go on with the pointless discussions about trivial things and enjoy  | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
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Zambrah
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Olli
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Sentenal
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On December 11 2020 02:09 Olli wrote: Enel is on the cover of the upcoming chapter. Oda definitely reads this thread. Enel vs Kaido confirmed. Enel sittin on the Moon thinking he is untouchable, and Kaido shows up with his flying mountain, only for Enel to crush him | ||
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Zexion
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On December 10 2020 23:26 Zambrah wrote: The only arguments people in here should make are strawHAT arguments. Get out of here, man! | ||
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