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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
November 26 2020 19:12 GMT
#30881
There is some collected knowledge out there, BB looked through a book when he discovered the fruit he wanted iirc? He knew what it lookes like and what it would do.
Never Knows Best.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
November 27 2020 10:18 GMT
#30882
https://onepiecechapters.com/manga/one-piece-chapter-997/
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8784 Posts
November 27 2020 10:32 GMT
#30883
well there goes the ivankov theories.
the way zoro beats apoo is so satisfying yet at the same time so disappointing. the way apoo loses is almost too pathetic its shameful hes considered a supernova at all.
and kaido showing why being a dragon puts him at whitebeard level
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-27 10:38:06
November 27 2020 10:36 GMT
#30884
Another bait and switch from Oda...

Kaido showing off another power of his is nice
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18560 Posts
November 27 2020 10:53 GMT
#30885
Is this awakening of zoo? :o Because he is in his human form
Zexion
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden971 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-29 08:54:24
November 27 2020 11:47 GMT
#30886
I think Zoro + Conqueror's haki is being foreshadowed. It's not really far-fetched that the vice-captain of the future Pirate King has it so he will probably awaken it this arc.

I'm really disappointed with Sanji's character though. I guess this is a moment when he might grow up but it's annoying how he falls for same shit over and over again. They're up against Yonkous and he still can't control himself lol. Hoping for 2021 being the year of Sanji!
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2546 Posts
November 27 2020 13:44 GMT
#30887
How the fuck is Kaido lifting the island? It's attached to the rest of the earth. In fact it's shaped like a mountain:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


If Kaido was able to cut an island-sized cross section with his fire clouds without even breaking a sweat then why doesn't he use that attack more often? He could literally have just annihilated all of the scabbards with one spell.
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
November 27 2020 13:50 GMT
#30888
That panel with Zoro was beautiful
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8784 Posts
November 27 2020 15:33 GMT
#30889
On November 27 2020 22:44 Hyperbola wrote:
How the fuck is Kaido lifting the island? It's attached to the rest of the earth. In fact it's shaped like a mountain:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


If Kaido was able to cut an island-sized cross section with his fire clouds without even breaking a sweat then why doesn't he use that attack more often? He could literally have just annihilated all of the scabbards with one spell.

i dont think he "cut" the island. hes just literally lifting the earth beneath it out of its foundations.
also probably doesnt use the attack for the same reason why whitebeard didnt immediately just start destroying marineford? too much collateral damage that cannot be controlled
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
November 28 2020 03:28 GMT
#30890
Ayyy, I like these sorts of things where it offers a weird little explanation to something I didnt need an answer to (why Kaido's Dragon Form flies) and then applies it to a unique attack that makes the Mythical Logia feel more Mythical.

Good chapter, also, seriously why is Kaido in human form just SO much more threatening, lord
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 28 2020 08:58 GMT
#30891
So it turns out that Kaido is actually the only person who can challenge Enel... Enel might be able to fly away on his space ship and nuke people from Orbit, but Kaido can lift a mountain to go chase him!!!
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
November 28 2020 18:46 GMT
#30892
On November 28 2020 00:33 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2020 22:44 Hyperbola wrote:
How the fuck is Kaido lifting the island? It's attached to the rest of the earth. In fact it's shaped like a mountain:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


If Kaido was able to cut an island-sized cross section with his fire clouds without even breaking a sweat then why doesn't he use that attack more often? He could literally have just annihilated all of the scabbards with one spell.

i dont think he "cut" the island. hes just literally lifting the earth beneath it out of its foundations.
also probably doesnt use the attack for the same reason why whitebeard didnt immediately just start destroying marineford? too much collateral damage that cannot be controlled

That's not how geography works. Islands are just hills/mountains that are higher than sea level. You very much have to cut or destroy rock to lift an island in the same way you have to cut rock to lift a mountain. You can't grab a mountain and lift it, as a mountain is just the tip of planetary crust. Of course One Piece is a fantasy world, but nothing indicates that sea islands are any different from what we know in real life.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 28 2020 18:56 GMT
#30893
On November 29 2020 03:46 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2020 00:33 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On November 27 2020 22:44 Hyperbola wrote:
How the fuck is Kaido lifting the island? It's attached to the rest of the earth. In fact it's shaped like a mountain:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


If Kaido was able to cut an island-sized cross section with his fire clouds without even breaking a sweat then why doesn't he use that attack more often? He could literally have just annihilated all of the scabbards with one spell.

i dont think he "cut" the island. hes just literally lifting the earth beneath it out of its foundations.
also probably doesnt use the attack for the same reason why whitebeard didnt immediately just start destroying marineford? too much collateral damage that cannot be controlled

That's not how geography works. Islands are just hills/mountains that are higher than sea level. You very much have to cut or destroy rock to lift an island in the same way you have to cut rock to lift a mountain. You can't grab a mountain and lift it, as a mountain is just the tip of planetary crust. Of course One Piece is a fantasy world, but nothing indicates that sea islands are any different from what we know in real life.

wait you mean you dont agree with the former US Congressman that was concerned we could accidentally capsize an island by putting too many people on it?
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-28 22:49:32
November 28 2020 22:49 GMT
#30894
Its entirely possible that Onigashima is actually just one really huge chunk of granite or something, and hes instead just lifting that one very big rock. A mountain like that exists IRL near where I live, called Stone Mountain, and is really just a really huge rock that runs 9 miles underground, and there are other instances of such mountains across the world. So instead of cutting away at the earth to lift a mountain, its lifting a rock and everything that is sitting on it.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
November 28 2020 23:02 GMT
#30895
I mean I dont see why this wouldnt work with some basic fantasy logic, granted we assume Kaidos clouds produce some absurd amount of force, it would basically be like trying to pull something heavy upwards and then breaking the top off right?
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8784 Posts
November 29 2020 06:04 GMT
#30896
On November 29 2020 03:46 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2020 00:33 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On November 27 2020 22:44 Hyperbola wrote:
How the fuck is Kaido lifting the island? It's attached to the rest of the earth. In fact it's shaped like a mountain:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


If Kaido was able to cut an island-sized cross section with his fire clouds without even breaking a sweat then why doesn't he use that attack more often? He could literally have just annihilated all of the scabbards with one spell.

i dont think he "cut" the island. hes just literally lifting the earth beneath it out of its foundations.
also probably doesnt use the attack for the same reason why whitebeard didnt immediately just start destroying marineford? too much collateral damage that cannot be controlled

That's not how geography works. Islands are just hills/mountains that are higher than sea level. You very much have to cut or destroy rock to lift an island in the same way you have to cut rock to lift a mountain. You can't grab a mountain and lift it, as a mountain is just the tip of planetary crust. Of course One Piece is a fantasy world, but nothing indicates that sea islands are any different from what we know in real life.

what makes you think just because its an island it doesnt mean it could be lifted out of the crust of the earth (world)?
the last frame definitely doesnt look like kaido cut the island parallel to the earth (worlds) crust.
any geotechnical engineer will tell you the crust is made up of a lot of different compositions of soil and rock and the strength of the foundation is different at any point and depth. if you were to apply enough upward force at the right point its not hard to imagine that an island or mountain could be pulled out of its foundations; the strength of the foundation would just have to be weaker than the mountain itself. a similar analogy would be the difference between pulling off the top of a weed and pulling the weed out at its roots. what matters is where you apply the force
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 29 2020 08:08 GMT
#30897
Man this thread is the best
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2055 Posts
November 29 2020 11:50 GMT
#30898
Badass chapter, and people are arguing about the island lift. Zoro just stomped Apoo like it was nothing and showed Queen & King he's a threat. I'm fairly sure Zoro will challenge King as he's a swordsman and second in command?

I'm also curious to know what Law's role is in all this now that he's on his submarine and cut off from the rest.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2546 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-29 18:41:59
November 29 2020 18:39 GMT
#30899
If Kaido has enough control over his clouds to lift an island, then can't he use them to scoop up all of his enemies and throw them into the sea? Why did he even bother clobbering the scabbards when he could have just created a cloud bubble on the rooftop, lifted everyone a mile into the sky, and then dropped everyone to their deaths?

Or if that's too hard, just take Onigashima and flip it upside down. Everyone on the roof will fall to their deaths and everyone inside would smash into the ceiling. Kaido clearly does not care about the fodder in his crew so it's not like he's worried about losing them and all of his commanders would probably survive the impact.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 29 2020 18:46 GMT
#30900
because you're applying logic to a fantasy story
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