EPTIts not THAT OP if you have to swallow a piece of the user's body though right, that seems like a pretty fair limitation
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
Its not THAT OP if you have to swallow a piece of the user's body though right, that seems like a pretty fair limitation | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
He wasn't afraid of Kaido's crew, he was afraid of Kaido. And that's fair, it took Oden who was absurdly strong to even put a scratch on him. Also I'm not sure we can use Luffy's willingness to go gear 4 as evidence of Ulti being strong. He also used it against a ship. | ||
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herMan
Japan2056 Posts
Doffy was one badass villain who had to keel over because of plot progression. I just wish that was would have been done in a more believable fashion. | ||
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Elentos
55570 Posts
On November 14 2020 18:15 herMan wrote: Apparently you beat him by punching him extremely hard, too fast for him to dodge.I'm still sore how Doflamingo was supposedly defeated. That guy's devil fruit was pirate king material, how do you defeat a guy who can bury you under one million razor sharp strings? Doffy was one badass villain who had to keel over because of plot progression. I just wish that was would have been done in a more believable fashion. | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
But if we're talking about a 1v1 fight and simple head-to-head power measurement, Doflamingo probably beats everyone in Kaido's crew except Kaido himself. | ||
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Elentos
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
It's pretty obvious to anyone who paid attention that Luffy had far more trouble with Doflamingo than he did with Cracker and likely would have lost had it not been for people helping him out during all of it, despite Doflamingo already being weakened prior to the real start of the fight. It's a completely nonsensical comparison and I have no idea where it even came from. | ||
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Shinokuki
United States923 Posts
On November 14 2020 21:16 Olli wrote: This idea that "Luffy uses X attack against person A and it defeats them, but it doesn't defeat person B, therefore B is stronger than A" is what's mental to me. This is why I despise power level debates. Even if power levels in a fucking manga could be approached scientifically (which they cannot) you'd have just failed at it given you've completely neglected control variables, the most obvious here would be: what state were they in when Luffy beat them? Doflamingo literally had organs destroyed by Law before Luffy fought him. It's pretty obvious to anyone who paid attention that Luffy had far more trouble with Doflamingo than he did with Cracker and likely would have lost had it not been for people helping him out during all of it, despite Doflamingo already being weakened prior to the real start of the fight. It's a completely nonsensical comparison and I have no idea where it even came from. I think King can take on doffy and beat him with difficulty | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
Katakuri would be a favorite imo 55/45 or so | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
Not to mention, cutting mochi probably isn’t going to be all that effective, so he’s got another edge there, maybe 60/40 Katakuri? | ||
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Zexion
Sweden971 Posts
Also, considering how the Beast Pirates ranking system works with all the card numbers (King, Queen, Jack, Numbers), I guess they're going to fall like a house of cards soon (I don't know if this is a common saying in Japanese). Won't be easy, but I don't believe the raid will end as a failure (as some theories say). We will know the final answer in a year or two I suppose! | ||
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Zooper31
United States5712 Posts
On November 17 2020 18:29 Zexion wrote: Speaking of power levels: When Queen said he wanted to take out the 2nd and 3rd strongest fighters on the SH crew, he seem to believe that Sanji is 2nd due to the fact that his bounty is higher than Zoro's. So I guess this will result in Queen gravely underestimating Zoro, which will end in his downfall in some way. Either that or he goes for Sanji because he knows Judge and he thinks Sanji is 2nd strongest fighter (this is more probable I think). Then he will lose the fight, only to find out that Zoro is even more of a beast. Also, considering how the Beast Pirates ranking system works with all the card numbers (King, Queen, Jack, Numbers), I guess they're going to fall like a house of cards soon (I don't know if this is a common saying in Japanese). Won't be easy, but I don't believe the raid will end as a failure (as some theories say). We will know the final answer in a year or two I suppose! I took it as him knowing about Judge and assuming Sanji will be no short order as opposed to a random bounty hunter with no lineage. Zoro obviously has a reputation now but the Germa are bigger. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
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Shinokuki
United States923 Posts
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Zambrah
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Hyperbola
United States2551 Posts
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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LennX
4568 Posts
No break so hopefully we will know whose the new okama that Sanji heard at the end. And a random D tibit | ||
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