^ i think people who watched the anime/ read the manga will enjoy it. fight scenes were extremely well done but the characters felt dull and the story is nothing to brag about. the movie did make me want to go watch the anime though.
It doesn't help that I'm not a huge fan of Shia LaBeouf, but he did fine actually. I guess what I didn't like is that Tom Hardy's character's throat got slit, and sawed deep into it too, but he didn't die in a few minutes like he should have, and then the redhead had enough time to drive back, get raped, gather herself and drive a man that had been bleeding from the throat the entire time to the doctor where he ended up being fine after a week or so. *sigh* Otherwise, pretty good.
Better than I thought it would be. Didn't think the Doc was that much of a bad guy... he just wanted to save those poor veterans And... turn the whole city into lizards, BUT to make them all genetically superior!
On January 01 2013 13:47 dbg wrote: ^ i think people who watched the anime/ read the manga will enjoy it. fight scenes were extremely well done but the characters felt dull and the story is nothing to brag about. the movie did make me want to go watch the anime though.
What he said about Rurouni Kenshin.
I felt the movie had a flaw that it was a liveaction film about something that's supposed to be a manga. Most of the things Kenshin did in the movie were not inhuman. He did beat 250 people. But in the anime Kenshin's master moved so fast he created a vaccum in space.
I didn't watch much Kenshin anime but I recognize some of the characters. The gatling gun. The fake Batosai.
Les Mis. : 7/10 It was great. Very heart hitting movie. Music was good, chilling. Cinematography was great. I just can't help, but think it was too fast paced. And I am reading the book. I am also one for crying in movies, so ya this really was a tear jerker. I felt like you had to read the book to know the story as a whole.
If you are absolutely not one for musicals don't see it, but I do ask that you try to consider doing so.
Some of this movie is quite good. Many of the problems lie in some of the bizarre cuts between scenes. There's a director's cut which is 15 minutes longer which could explain some of this. People just go from place to place without any explanation of how or why they went there. There's a good 20 minutes or so in the middle of the movie where I just have no idea what was going on, although that was only partially because of some of the strange cuts.
Overall, a solid movie which randomly has a section that doesn't seem to make any sense.
I was quite impressed with Les Mis. Probably 8/10.
If you're a fan of the musical it should be a no-brainer, provided you're not such a buff that you can't deal with a shaky note now and then. Hugh Jackman and Russel Crowe greatly exceeded my expectations, but they aren't taking broadway by storm any time soon. Anne Hathaway, on the other hand, can quit her day job whenever she likes.
In my mind, the movie's greatest strength is the way it uses the music believably. Often, I struggle with film adaptations of musicals because all the random bursting into song can become ridiculous in a way that's not apparent on stage. That's not a problem here. In a lot of ways, the songs almost seem ripped from the characters unwillingly, and that gives a rawness and honesty that's very refreshing. I'd rate pretty much all of the major solos as standout performances that bring something genuinely new to the table, even to a fan of the broadway production.
Even if you're not into musicals, it might still surprise you. Just be aware of what you're walking into; it is bombastic, it does take its subject matter dead seriously, and it does contain a sum total of two minutes of plain dialogue. If you're expecting something self-aware and tongue-in-cheek, you'll hate every scene that doesn't contain Sacha Baron Cohen.
On January 01 2013 20:55 darkness wrote: I'm looking for deep movies (not connected to love tho). E.g. The Matrix and The Dark Knight.
Cheers
Calling The Dark Knight deep is pretty big exaggeration...
If you want deep, try some of those:
Code 46 - this one's pretty deep, although it does have love as one of its primary plots Cypher - will be extremely deep compared to TDK, not very deep otherwise but pretty good and rises some interesting questions GATTACA - no explanation necessary, awesome classic and interesting study in eugenics Unbreakable - a completely different take on superheroes, must see Valhalla Rising - you either love it or find it utter crap, can't tell before you see it, one of the most unconventional and interesting movies in the last decade in my opinion
On January 01 2013 20:55 darkness wrote: I'm looking for deep movies (not connected to love tho). E.g. The Matrix and The Dark Knight.
Cheers
Watch Watchmen, but if you do, make sure to watch the longest version of the movie you can find. It looses so much with every minute cut, thats why in cinema i was utterly dissapointed with it.
7/10
I think it is based on a kids book, but the rather cool kind of kidsbook. So none of the characters are deep, neither is the story uberly complex, but it never felt dull and kids-dumb. And it is a post apocalyptic setting a little like fallout, really enjoyed it. If you let your kids watch, some of the mutated nature is actually pretty scary so make sure they can take it^^.
6/10
Overhyped. Not a bad movie at all though. Typically animation movie, where everything is just above average. The brave uglyness of all the characters, the hilarous writing of the main character, good jokes, unused setting... Overall what this lacked for me, was deepness. The movie just seems to go nowhere and is really light hearded - can be watched, but i would never say anybody has to see it.
10/10 or 7/10
Ok. For me it is 10/10. But I can understand the critics. This movie does not explain much, especially for a science fiction. But I found the beauty of it exactly there. It's like good art, you can interpret it anyway you like, and why should your opinion, since it is all fiction, matter less then what some writer dictates. It's ridley scott at his best. The imagery is so tastefull. Sure, the character of the biologist seems to have space-dementia, but other than that I just really fell in love with it. It's well paced, the technology of the contructors has a great design. I don't know why exactly I liked this movie so much, but it defnitly was the best movie I have seen last year.
Edit: BTW Darkness, how is matrix not connected to love ? ;D
On December 30 2012 22:01 corumjhaelen wrote: Also The Matrix is very shallow, but at least the fight scenes are good.
I don't think you can even begin to understand all the sublety, symbolism and refferences that movie has but I hope that you enjoyed your popcorn.
I'm dying of laughter. I guess when you're 15 Matrix comes off as deep and smart... I suggest watching a bit more movies before acting superior with me because I watch popcorn movies oO
Haha, just because someone don't agree with you, there's no need to be a smartass. Matrix is a great movie, I mean why else would it be on probably 90% of the top lists for Sci-fi/fantasy. Don't have to be a brain surgeon to know it's a great movie
Matrix is a pretty good movie thanks to the action scene, and it will probably be a bit remembered for that. There are tons of better science fiction movie out there. The fact that it's on a ton of lists by people who don't know much about cinema is irrelevant. A movie's popularity and its quality are two different things, I'm sure you'll agree. Matrix is popular (and not bad really). I'll admit my post was a bit dickish, but so are the reactions to my opinion...
On December 30 2012 23:59 The Chief wrote:
On December 30 2012 23:28 corumjhaelen wrote: Disagreeing with the majority of 15-22 years old white males on a movie->losing all credibility. I'll live with it and keep on believing Bergman and Tarkovski are better than the Wachowski's and that Georges Delerue and Morricone are better composers than Hans Zimmer.
ohhhhh i forgot we lived in a world where if someone is better than someone that automatically makes the other person bad, i guess anyone whose not Michael Jordan or Lebron James must suck at basketball /soundprooflogic
I'll develop. From what I've seen the Wachowski's are not totally untalented, but they haven't make any really good movie. Matrix 1 isn't bad, but acting like it's a really smart movie is pretty amusing, especially as the two following movies show how little thought there was in this universe. It's not a bad movie at all, but it's really not among the most intelligent blockbusters I've seen, and I'm limiting it to blockbusters to be nice... Edit : to the very smart post above, I agree with plenty of people, and I don't have any problem with that. I like plenty of blockbusters... But that seems hard to comprehend.
Please, give us your top 10 movies of all time. Enlighten us lowly neanderthals.
Can you please express yourself clearly and without being insulting ?
Why do you expect others to be civil when you are the one being insulting? That's all I am asking. Your personal top 10 movies of all time regardless of genre, subject etc. All I want is for you to post 10 movies that you think are good. Do not sidestep this question with another question like "Which director?" "Which era in movie making?" etc useless crap. If you do I am going to assume you are scared of being ridiculed for shitting on everyone else's taste in movies yet don't want your own choices to be under the same heavy scrutiny and you are just another immature film studies graduate with nothing to offer.
On December 30 2012 22:01 corumjhaelen wrote: Also The Matrix is very shallow, but at least the fight scenes are good.
I don't think you can even begin to understand all the sublety, symbolism and refferences that movie has but I hope that you enjoyed your popcorn.
I'm dying of laughter. I guess when you're 15 Matrix comes off as deep and smart... I suggest watching a bit more movies before acting superior with me because I watch popcorn movies oO
Haha, just because someone don't agree with you, there's no need to be a smartass. Matrix is a great movie, I mean why else would it be on probably 90% of the top lists for Sci-fi/fantasy. Don't have to be a brain surgeon to know it's a great movie
Matrix is a pretty good movie thanks to the action scene, and it will probably be a bit remembered for that. There are tons of better science fiction movie out there. The fact that it's on a ton of lists by people who don't know much about cinema is irrelevant. A movie's popularity and its quality are two different things, I'm sure you'll agree. Matrix is popular (and not bad really). I'll admit my post was a bit dickish, but so are the reactions to my opinion...
On December 30 2012 23:59 The Chief wrote:
On December 30 2012 23:28 corumjhaelen wrote: Disagreeing with the majority of 15-22 years old white males on a movie->losing all credibility. I'll live with it and keep on believing Bergman and Tarkovski are better than the Wachowski's and that Georges Delerue and Morricone are better composers than Hans Zimmer.
ohhhhh i forgot we lived in a world where if someone is better than someone that automatically makes the other person bad, i guess anyone whose not Michael Jordan or Lebron James must suck at basketball /soundprooflogic
I'll develop. From what I've seen the Wachowski's are not totally untalented, but they haven't make any really good movie. Matrix 1 isn't bad, but acting like it's a really smart movie is pretty amusing, especially as the two following movies show how little thought there was in this universe. It's not a bad movie at all, but it's really not among the most intelligent blockbusters I've seen, and I'm limiting it to blockbusters to be nice... Edit : to the very smart post above, I agree with plenty of people, and I don't have any problem with that. I like plenty of blockbusters... But that seems hard to comprehend.
Please, give us your top 10 movies of all time. Enlighten us lowly neanderthals.
Can you please express yourself clearly and without being insulting ?
Why do you expect others to be civil when you are the one being insulting? That's all I am asking. Your personal top 10 movies of all time regardless of genre, subject etc. All I want is for you to post 10 movies that you think are good. Do not sidestep this question with another question like "Which director?" "Which era in movie making?" etc useless crap. If you do I am going to assume you are scared of being ridiculed for shitting on everyone else's taste in movies yet don't want your own choices to be under the same heavy scrutiny and you are just another immature film studies graduate with nothing to offer.
uhh his top 20 are pretty damn good. he probably has the best taste in movies that ive seen
i dont like his hate towards david fincher though. social network > anything bergman. sup?
On December 30 2012 22:01 corumjhaelen wrote: Also The Matrix is very shallow, but at least the fight scenes are good.
I don't think you can even begin to understand all the sublety, symbolism and refferences that movie has but I hope that you enjoyed your popcorn.
I'm dying of laughter. I guess when you're 15 Matrix comes off as deep and smart... I suggest watching a bit more movies before acting superior with me because I watch popcorn movies oO
Haha, just because someone don't agree with you, there's no need to be a smartass. Matrix is a great movie, I mean why else would it be on probably 90% of the top lists for Sci-fi/fantasy. Don't have to be a brain surgeon to know it's a great movie
Matrix is a pretty good movie thanks to the action scene, and it will probably be a bit remembered for that. There are tons of better science fiction movie out there. The fact that it's on a ton of lists by people who don't know much about cinema is irrelevant. A movie's popularity and its quality are two different things, I'm sure you'll agree. Matrix is popular (and not bad really). I'll admit my post was a bit dickish, but so are the reactions to my opinion...
On December 30 2012 23:59 The Chief wrote:
On December 30 2012 23:28 corumjhaelen wrote: Disagreeing with the majority of 15-22 years old white males on a movie->losing all credibility. I'll live with it and keep on believing Bergman and Tarkovski are better than the Wachowski's and that Georges Delerue and Morricone are better composers than Hans Zimmer.
ohhhhh i forgot we lived in a world where if someone is better than someone that automatically makes the other person bad, i guess anyone whose not Michael Jordan or Lebron James must suck at basketball /soundprooflogic
I'll develop. From what I've seen the Wachowski's are not totally untalented, but they haven't make any really good movie. Matrix 1 isn't bad, but acting like it's a really smart movie is pretty amusing, especially as the two following movies show how little thought there was in this universe. It's not a bad movie at all, but it's really not among the most intelligent blockbusters I've seen, and I'm limiting it to blockbusters to be nice... Edit : to the very smart post above, I agree with plenty of people, and I don't have any problem with that. I like plenty of blockbusters... But that seems hard to comprehend.
Please, give us your top 10 movies of all time. Enlighten us lowly neanderthals.
Can you please express yourself clearly and without being insulting ?
Why do you expect others to be civil when you are the one being insulting? That's all I am asking. Your personal top 10 movies of all time regardless of genre, subject etc. All I want is for you to post 10 movies that you think are good. Do not sidestep this question with another question like "Which director?" "Which era in movie making?" etc useless crap. If you do I am going to assume you are scared of being ridiculed for shitting on everyone else's taste in movies yet don't want your own choices to be under the same heavy scrutiny and you are just another immature film studies graduate with nothing to offer.
You know I've already written a blog on my 30 favorite movies of all time ? How ridiculous do you sound now ? You're just so mad it's incredible, I know plenty of people who know more about movie than me and who disagree with my taste... I don't mind being scrutinized. Here's a top 20 I made two weeks ago : 1. Cries and Whispers 2. Persona 3. The Rule fo the Game 4. Stalker 5. Vertigo 6. Seven Samurai 7. 8 1/2 8. The Ghost and Mrs Muir 9. Days of Heaven 10. Aguirre or the Wrath of God 11. Van Gogh 12. Le Trou 13. Rocco and his brothers 14. Once upon a time in the West 15. Solaris 16. A Man Escaped 17. Jules and Jim 18. Le Plaisir 19. City Lights 20. The Virgin Spring
On December 30 2012 22:01 corumjhaelen wrote: Also The Matrix is very shallow, but at least the fight scenes are good.
I don't think you can even begin to understand all the sublety, symbolism and refferences that movie has but I hope that you enjoyed your popcorn.
I'm dying of laughter. I guess when you're 15 Matrix comes off as deep and smart... I suggest watching a bit more movies before acting superior with me because I watch popcorn movies oO
Haha, just because someone don't agree with you, there's no need to be a smartass. Matrix is a great movie, I mean why else would it be on probably 90% of the top lists for Sci-fi/fantasy. Don't have to be a brain surgeon to know it's a great movie
Matrix is a pretty good movie thanks to the action scene, and it will probably be a bit remembered for that. There are tons of better science fiction movie out there. The fact that it's on a ton of lists by people who don't know much about cinema is irrelevant. A movie's popularity and its quality are two different things, I'm sure you'll agree. Matrix is popular (and not bad really). I'll admit my post was a bit dickish, but so are the reactions to my opinion...
On December 30 2012 23:59 The Chief wrote:
On December 30 2012 23:28 corumjhaelen wrote: Disagreeing with the majority of 15-22 years old white males on a movie->losing all credibility. I'll live with it and keep on believing Bergman and Tarkovski are better than the Wachowski's and that Georges Delerue and Morricone are better composers than Hans Zimmer.
ohhhhh i forgot we lived in a world where if someone is better than someone that automatically makes the other person bad, i guess anyone whose not Michael Jordan or Lebron James must suck at basketball /soundprooflogic
I'll develop. From what I've seen the Wachowski's are not totally untalented, but they haven't make any really good movie. Matrix 1 isn't bad, but acting like it's a really smart movie is pretty amusing, especially as the two following movies show how little thought there was in this universe. It's not a bad movie at all, but it's really not among the most intelligent blockbusters I've seen, and I'm limiting it to blockbusters to be nice... Edit : to the very smart post above, I agree with plenty of people, and I don't have any problem with that. I like plenty of blockbusters... But that seems hard to comprehend.
Please, give us your top 10 movies of all time. Enlighten us lowly neanderthals.
Can you please express yourself clearly and without being insulting ?
Why do you expect others to be civil when you are the one being insulting? That's all I am asking. Your personal top 10 movies of all time regardless of genre, subject etc. All I want is for you to post 10 movies that you think are good. Do not sidestep this question with another question like "Which director?" "Which era in movie making?" etc useless crap. If you do I am going to assume you are scared of being ridiculed for shitting on everyone else's taste in movies yet don't want your own choices to be under the same heavy scrutiny and you are just another immature film studies graduate with nothing to offer.
You know I've already written a blog on my 30 favorite movies of all time ? How ridiculous do you sound now ? You're just so mad it's incredible, I know plenty of people who know more about movie than me and who disagree with my taste... I don't mind being scrutinized. Here's a top 20 I made two weeks ago : 1. Cries and Whispers 2. Persona 3. The Rule fo the Game 4. Stalker 5. Vertigo 6. Seven Samurai 7. 8 1/2 8. The Ghost and Mrs Muir 9. Days of Heaven 10. Aguirre or the Wrath of God 11. Van Gogh 12. Le Trou 13. Rocco and his brothers 14. Once upon a time in the West 15. Solaris 16. A Man Escaped 17. Jules and Jim 18. Le Plaisir 19. City Lights 20. The Virgin Spring
Number 1 and 2 on your list are quite wonderful, saw them last week.
On December 30 2012 22:01 corumjhaelen wrote: Also The Matrix is very shallow, but at least the fight scenes are good.
I don't think you can even begin to understand all the sublety, symbolism and refferences that movie has but I hope that you enjoyed your popcorn.
I'm dying of laughter. I guess when you're 15 Matrix comes off as deep and smart... I suggest watching a bit more movies before acting superior with me because I watch popcorn movies oO
Haha, just because someone don't agree with you, there's no need to be a smartass. Matrix is a great movie, I mean why else would it be on probably 90% of the top lists for Sci-fi/fantasy. Don't have to be a brain surgeon to know it's a great movie
Matrix is a pretty good movie thanks to the action scene, and it will probably be a bit remembered for that. There are tons of better science fiction movie out there. The fact that it's on a ton of lists by people who don't know much about cinema is irrelevant. A movie's popularity and its quality are two different things, I'm sure you'll agree. Matrix is popular (and not bad really). I'll admit my post was a bit dickish, but so are the reactions to my opinion...
On December 30 2012 23:59 The Chief wrote:
On December 30 2012 23:28 corumjhaelen wrote: Disagreeing with the majority of 15-22 years old white males on a movie->losing all credibility. I'll live with it and keep on believing Bergman and Tarkovski are better than the Wachowski's and that Georges Delerue and Morricone are better composers than Hans Zimmer.
ohhhhh i forgot we lived in a world where if someone is better than someone that automatically makes the other person bad, i guess anyone whose not Michael Jordan or Lebron James must suck at basketball /soundprooflogic
I'll develop. From what I've seen the Wachowski's are not totally untalented, but they haven't make any really good movie. Matrix 1 isn't bad, but acting like it's a really smart movie is pretty amusing, especially as the two following movies show how little thought there was in this universe. It's not a bad movie at all, but it's really not among the most intelligent blockbusters I've seen, and I'm limiting it to blockbusters to be nice... Edit : to the very smart post above, I agree with plenty of people, and I don't have any problem with that. I like plenty of blockbusters... But that seems hard to comprehend.
Please, give us your top 10 movies of all time. Enlighten us lowly neanderthals.
Can you please express yourself clearly and without being insulting ?
Why do you expect others to be civil when you are the one being insulting? That's all I am asking. Your personal top 10 movies of all time regardless of genre, subject etc. All I want is for you to post 10 movies that you think are good. Do not sidestep this question with another question like "Which director?" "Which era in movie making?" etc useless crap. If you do I am going to assume you are scared of being ridiculed for shitting on everyone else's taste in movies yet don't want your own choices to be under the same heavy scrutiny and you are just another immature film studies graduate with nothing to offer.
You know I've already written a blog on my 30 favorite movies of all time ? How ridiculous do you sound now ? You're just so mad it's incredible, I know plenty of people who know more about movie than me and who disagree with my taste... I don't mind being scrutinized. Here's a top 20 I made two weeks ago : 1. Cries and Whispers 2. Persona 3. The Rule fo the Game 4. Stalker 5. Vertigo 6. Seven Samurai 7. 8 1/2 8. The Ghost and Mrs Muir 9. Days of Heaven 10. Aguirre or the Wrath of God 11. Van Gogh 12. Le Trou 13. Rocco and his brothers 14. Once upon a time in th West 15. Solaris 16. A Man Escaped 17. Jules and Jim 18. Le plaisir 19. City Lights 20. The Virgin Spring
For a moment there, I was really shocked. Not my conversation, but entertaining non-the-less. Probably just ONE movie on there I remember I have seen and I was bored to death by it. Then I realised, you are french. Thank god :D. I am directing this directly at you nationality. Your cousin is great, I envy your folk for actually having a spine. We have a saying here in germany:"We basicly have the same rights as the french, the difference is they use theirs.". Alizee is hawt. But every movie that is from france bores me to death. Again, I think this all comes down to nationality, the difference in upbringing, the suroundings. Your list actually does not bother me, I think it is great that we enjoy different things. Still, "I'm dying of laughter. I guess when you're 15 Matrix comes off as deep and smart... ", this makes you a dick :d. It is not that I am 15, I do reaslise how randomly scrambled Matrix is contructed, how it basicly took every smart thing said in the last 50 years and put it chaoticly together, hoping to hit some nerves by people who are searching for something...something out there xD. The reason I think it didn`'t hit your nerves is that you are french. Maybe you never felt that powerless, maybe you aren`t surrounded by sleepwalking sheep, maybe france is the last bastion of mankind, maybe matrix didn't open a door for you, because you already passed it on your own, because you were born in Zion. But for us sleeping folk here in the powerplants, damn that movie is deeeep :d.
On December 30 2012 22:01 corumjhaelen wrote: Also The Matrix is very shallow, but at least the fight scenes are good.
I don't think you can even begin to understand all the sublety, symbolism and refferences that movie has but I hope that you enjoyed your popcorn.
I'm dying of laughter. I guess when you're 15 Matrix comes off as deep and smart... I suggest watching a bit more movies before acting superior with me because I watch popcorn movies oO
Haha, just because someone don't agree with you, there's no need to be a smartass. Matrix is a great movie, I mean why else would it be on probably 90% of the top lists for Sci-fi/fantasy. Don't have to be a brain surgeon to know it's a great movie
Matrix is a pretty good movie thanks to the action scene, and it will probably be a bit remembered for that. There are tons of better science fiction movie out there. The fact that it's on a ton of lists by people who don't know much about cinema is irrelevant. A movie's popularity and its quality are two different things, I'm sure you'll agree. Matrix is popular (and not bad really). I'll admit my post was a bit dickish, but so are the reactions to my opinion...
On December 30 2012 23:59 The Chief wrote:
On December 30 2012 23:28 corumjhaelen wrote: Disagreeing with the majority of 15-22 years old white males on a movie->losing all credibility. I'll live with it and keep on believing Bergman and Tarkovski are better than the Wachowski's and that Georges Delerue and Morricone are better composers than Hans Zimmer.
ohhhhh i forgot we lived in a world where if someone is better than someone that automatically makes the other person bad, i guess anyone whose not Michael Jordan or Lebron James must suck at basketball /soundprooflogic
I'll develop. From what I've seen the Wachowski's are not totally untalented, but they haven't make any really good movie. Matrix 1 isn't bad, but acting like it's a really smart movie is pretty amusing, especially as the two following movies show how little thought there was in this universe. It's not a bad movie at all, but it's really not among the most intelligent blockbusters I've seen, and I'm limiting it to blockbusters to be nice... Edit : to the very smart post above, I agree with plenty of people, and I don't have any problem with that. I like plenty of blockbusters... But that seems hard to comprehend.
Please, give us your top 10 movies of all time. Enlighten us lowly neanderthals.
Can you please express yourself clearly and without being insulting ?
Why do you expect others to be civil when you are the one being insulting? That's all I am asking. Your personal top 10 movies of all time regardless of genre, subject etc. All I want is for you to post 10 movies that you think are good. Do not sidestep this question with another question like "Which director?" "Which era in movie making?" etc useless crap. If you do I am going to assume you are scared of being ridiculed for shitting on everyone else's taste in movies yet don't want your own choices to be under the same heavy scrutiny and you are just another immature film studies graduate with nothing to offer.
You know I've already written a blog on my 30 favorite movies of all time ? How ridiculous do you sound now ? You're just so mad it's incredible, I know plenty of people who know more about movie than me and who disagree with my taste... I don't mind being scrutinized. Here's a top 20 I made two weeks ago : 1. Cries and Whispers 2. Persona 3. The Rule fo the Game 4. Stalker 5. Vertigo 6. Seven Samurai 7. 8 1/2 8. The Ghost and Mrs Muir 9. Days of Heaven 10. Aguirre or the Wrath of God 11. Van Gogh 12. Le Trou 13. Rocco and his brothers 14. Once upon a time in th West 15. Solaris 16. A Man Escaped 17. Jules and Jim 18. Le plaisir 19. City Lights 20. The Virgin Spring
For a moment there, I was really shocked. Not my conversation, but entertaining non-the-less. Probably just ONE movie on there I remember I have seen and I was bored to death by it. Then I realised, you are french. Thank god :D. I am directing this directly at you nationality. Your cousin is great, I envy your folk for actually having a spine. We have a saying here in germany:"We basicly have the same rights as the french, the difference is they use theirs.". Alizee is hawt. But every movie that is from france bores me to death. Again, I think this all comes down to nationality, the difference in upbringing, the suroundings. Your list actually does not bother me, I think it is great that we enjoy different things. Still, "I'm dying of laughter. I guess when you're 15 Matrix comes off as deep and smart... ", this makes you a dick :d. It is not that I am 15, I do reaslise how randomly scrambled Matrix is contructed, how it basicly took every smart thing said in the last 50 years and put it chaoticly together, hoping to hit some nerves by people who are searching for something...something out there xD. The reason I think it didn`'t hit your nerves is that you are french. Maybe you never felt that powerless, maybe you aren`t surrounded by sleepwalking sheep, maybe france is the last bastion of mankind, maybe matrix didn't open a door for you, because you already passed it on your own, because you were born in Zion. But for us sleeping folk here in the powerplants, damn that movie is deeeep :d.
I'm not really sure what you're getting at. I'm getting that you only saw one movie on my list and you didn't like it and found it boring (why not), but there's something about French people I don't get. We have sleepwalking sheeps alright here, don't worry I'm not sure which door your refer to that The Matrix would have opened too. Edit : I know very well I've been dickish, but I'm not persuaded I'm the one that started it...
@Wnio : yeah well, I love 8 1/2 and Days of Heaven so much I can't really disagree with you^^ For the japanese, I disagreee, but I see what you mean. For me it's just different, a bit more forced maybe but you get used to it. I also think Mifune has incredible charisma.
I don't think you can even begin to understand all the sublety, symbolism and refferences that movie has but I hope that you enjoyed your popcorn.
I'm dying of laughter. I guess when you're 15 Matrix comes off as deep and smart... I suggest watching a bit more movies before acting superior with me because I watch popcorn movies oO
Haha, just because someone don't agree with you, there's no need to be a smartass. Matrix is a great movie, I mean why else would it be on probably 90% of the top lists for Sci-fi/fantasy. Don't have to be a brain surgeon to know it's a great movie
Matrix is a pretty good movie thanks to the action scene, and it will probably be a bit remembered for that. There are tons of better science fiction movie out there. The fact that it's on a ton of lists by people who don't know much about cinema is irrelevant. A movie's popularity and its quality are two different things, I'm sure you'll agree. Matrix is popular (and not bad really). I'll admit my post was a bit dickish, but so are the reactions to my opinion...
On December 30 2012 23:59 The Chief wrote:
On December 30 2012 23:28 corumjhaelen wrote: Disagreeing with the majority of 15-22 years old white males on a movie->losing all credibility. I'll live with it and keep on believing Bergman and Tarkovski are better than the Wachowski's and that Georges Delerue and Morricone are better composers than Hans Zimmer.
ohhhhh i forgot we lived in a world where if someone is better than someone that automatically makes the other person bad, i guess anyone whose not Michael Jordan or Lebron James must suck at basketball /soundprooflogic
I'll develop. From what I've seen the Wachowski's are not totally untalented, but they haven't make any really good movie. Matrix 1 isn't bad, but acting like it's a really smart movie is pretty amusing, especially as the two following movies show how little thought there was in this universe. It's not a bad movie at all, but it's really not among the most intelligent blockbusters I've seen, and I'm limiting it to blockbusters to be nice... Edit : to the very smart post above, I agree with plenty of people, and I don't have any problem with that. I like plenty of blockbusters... But that seems hard to comprehend.
Please, give us your top 10 movies of all time. Enlighten us lowly neanderthals.
Can you please express yourself clearly and without being insulting ?
Why do you expect others to be civil when you are the one being insulting? That's all I am asking. Your personal top 10 movies of all time regardless of genre, subject etc. All I want is for you to post 10 movies that you think are good. Do not sidestep this question with another question like "Which director?" "Which era in movie making?" etc useless crap. If you do I am going to assume you are scared of being ridiculed for shitting on everyone else's taste in movies yet don't want your own choices to be under the same heavy scrutiny and you are just another immature film studies graduate with nothing to offer.
You know I've already written a blog on my 30 favorite movies of all time ? How ridiculous do you sound now ? You're just so mad it's incredible, I know plenty of people who know more about movie than me and who disagree with my taste... I don't mind being scrutinized. Here's a top 20 I made two weeks ago : 1. Cries and Whispers 2. Persona 3. The Rule fo the Game 4. Stalker 5. Vertigo 6. Seven Samurai 7. 8 1/2 8. The Ghost and Mrs Muir 9. Days of Heaven 10. Aguirre or the Wrath of God 11. Van Gogh 12. Le Trou 13. Rocco and his brothers 14. Once upon a time in th West 15. Solaris 16. A Man Escaped 17. Jules and Jim 18. Le plaisir 19. City Lights 20. The Virgin Spring
For a moment there, I was really shocked. Not my conversation, but entertaining non-the-less. Probably just ONE movie on there I remember I have seen and I was bored to death by it. Then I realised, you are french. Thank god :D. I am directing this directly at you nationality. Your cousin is great, I envy your folk for actually having a spine. We have a saying here in germany:"We basicly have the same rights as the french, the difference is they use theirs.". Alizee is hawt. But every movie that is from france bores me to death. Again, I think this all comes down to nationality, the difference in upbringing, the suroundings. Your list actually does not bother me, I think it is great that we enjoy different things. Still, "I'm dying of laughter. I guess when you're 15 Matrix comes off as deep and smart... ", this makes you a dick :d. It is not that I am 15, I do reaslise how randomly scrambled Matrix is contructed, how it basicly took every smart thing said in the last 50 years and put it chaoticly together, hoping to hit some nerves by people who are searching for something...something out there xD. The reason I think it didn`'t hit your nerves is that you are french. Maybe you never felt that powerless, maybe you aren`t surrounded by sleepwalking sheep, maybe france is the last bastion of mankind, maybe matrix didn't open a door for you, because you already passed it on your own, because you were born in Zion. But for us sleeping folk here in the powerplants, damn that movie is deeeep :d.
I'm not really sure what you're getting at. I'm getting that you only saw one movie on my list and you didn't like it and found it boring (why not), but there's something about French people I don't get. We have sleepwalking sheeps alright here, don't worry I'm not sure which door your refer to that The Matrix would have opened too. Edit : I know very well I've been dickish, but I'm not persuaded I'm the one that started it...
@Wnio : yeah well, I love 8 1/2 and Days of Heaven so much I can't really disagree with you^^ For the japanese, I disagreee, but I see what you mean. For me it's just different, a bit more forced maybe but you get used to it. I also think Mifune has incredible charisma.
What I tried to get at: Deciding how deep the Matrix(or any Movie for this regard) is, Is like trying to decide how deep a pond is. If you are outside of it and have an overview, the water will break the light and it will appear very shallow to you. However, if you are underwater, in the pond, you can only grasp it's real deep. Maybe you have to be a little naive or young to splash in the Matrix pond, but it actually aims to bring you to the surface, to see the whole pond. This emersion to the surface is the door, that is also referenced in matrix. Now, if you were to live on the surface from the beginning, sure, the Matrix offers you nothing new, no emersion can happen, and it will be bleak and shallow.
Now the crux of it is, that every movie represents its own pond, and while most people, including me, are a polliwog in the matrix pond, you shouldn`t be to sure that we wouldn't just laugh at the many movies we still have to see(or you call deep for that regard) as maybe you are the only polliwog in them.
On December 31 2012 03:30 Gene wrote: That being said, I don't believe The Matrix should be in anyone's top 10 films. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at.
It should if you're into deep movies and want to look behind what first meets the eye. But there will always be people who only care about fight scenes.
The Matrix is only deep if you are shallow.
And thats your opinion, of which is in the vocal minority.
I would be hard pressed to find anyone familiar with philosophy at even a casual level who would call The Matrix deep.
yeah, dunno where this "the Matrix is definitely deep yo!" stuff is coming from. My first reaction was, "wait, what?" lol.
I watched Prometheus the other day, and let me say...I was surprised at how bad it actually is. There were so many things on both the surface level and at a deeper level that were just straight up terrible.
I think it's one of those films where there is a great idea or basis, and the execution is just bad. Kind of like a worse Inception for me, in many ways. (Inception wasn't as bad, but I do think that the execution of the film could have been much much better)
In other movies I watched The Help last week:
I thought the acting performance from the support cast was excellent. I really enjoyed that movie.
On January 02 2013 00:11 corumjhaelen wrote: 4. Stalker 15. Solaris
I assume they're both Tarkovsky movies? Solaris was too much "form over matter" (still miles ahead of the new one with Clooney in it) but Stalker is top notch.
It's a pity that no one has so far successfully captured any of Lem's works
EPT
And... turn the whole city into lizards, BUT to make them all genetically superior! 
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