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The Chief
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia138 Posts
December 30 2012 14:02 GMT
#3941
ok i skimmed through the above comments and was going to read the ones regarding inception but the moment i skimmed past 'hans zimmer music is absolutely atrocious' i litterally laughed quite loudly and realised that i shouldn't come to this thread expecting any different.
Moist
ne0lith
Profile Joined August 2011
537 Posts
December 30 2012 14:07 GMT
#3942
On December 30 2012 22:01 corumjhaelen wrote:
Also The Matrix is very shallow, but at least the fight scenes are good.


I don't think you can even begin to understand all the sublety, symbolism and refferences that movie has but I hope that you enjoyed your popcorn.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-30 14:18:57
December 30 2012 14:15 GMT
#3943
On December 30 2012 23:07 ne0lith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2012 22:01 corumjhaelen wrote:
Also The Matrix is very shallow, but at least the fight scenes are good.


I don't think you can even begin to understand all the sublety, symbolism and refferences that movie has but I hope that you enjoyed your popcorn.

I'm dying of laughter. I guess when you're 15 Matrix comes off as deep and smart... I suggest watching a bit more movies before acting superior with me because I watch popcorn movies oO
Edit : to be more accurate, having lots of references everywhere has never made anything deep...
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The Chief
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia138 Posts
December 30 2012 14:24 GMT
#3944
sorry dude but you lost all credibility when you said hans zimmer music was bad, bashing on the original matrix is not going to make it any better.
Moist
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-30 14:30:34
December 30 2012 14:28 GMT
#3945
Disagreeing with the majority of 15-22 years old white males on a movie->losing all credibility. I'll live with it and keep on believing Bergman and Tarkovski are better than the Wachowski's and that Georges Delerue and Morricone are better composers than Hans Zimmer.
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NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
December 30 2012 14:37 GMT
#3946
On December 30 2012 23:15 corumjhaelen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2012 23:07 ne0lith wrote:
On December 30 2012 22:01 corumjhaelen wrote:
Also The Matrix is very shallow, but at least the fight scenes are good.


I don't think you can even begin to understand all the sublety, symbolism and refferences that movie has but I hope that you enjoyed your popcorn.

I'm dying of laughter. I guess when you're 15 Matrix comes off as deep and smart... I suggest watching a bit more movies before acting superior with me because I watch popcorn movies oO

Haha, just because someone don't agree with you, there's no need to be a smartass. Matrix is a great movie, I mean why else would it be on probably 90% of the top lists for Sci-fi/fantasy. Don't have to be a brain surgeon to know it's a great movie
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The Chief
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia138 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-30 15:00:41
December 30 2012 14:59 GMT
#3947
On December 30 2012 23:28 corumjhaelen wrote:
Disagreeing with the majority of 15-22 years old white males on a movie->losing all credibility. I'll live with it and keep on believing Bergman and Tarkovski are better than the Wachowski's and that Georges Delerue and Morricone are better composers than Hans Zimmer.

ohhhhh i forgot we lived in a world where if someone is better than someone that automatically makes the other person bad, i guess anyone whose not Michael Jordan or Lebron James must suck at basketball
/soundprooflogic
Moist
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
December 30 2012 15:01 GMT
#3948
corumjhaelen is a guy that gave Hobbit 4/10, and now i see he's saying original Matrix is shallow and that he considers himself smart because he doesn't agree with pretty much everyone. riiiight.

people please, don't feed the troll.

i'll quote another guy that replied to him:

On December 20 2012 06:47 BliptiX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 06:25 corumjhaelen wrote:
On December 20 2012 03:05 snailz wrote:
On December 19 2012 22:59 corumjhaelen wrote:
I'll be quick. I'm not a Peter Jackson fan at all, and if I thought his Fellowship was ok enough, I was really disappointed in the two later movies. And here he's not really on his best day.
What I liked : the riddles, Radagast (yes !), the songs (I'm impressed), the actor's performances overall, and of course the visual universe, Jackson's real quality, especially pleasing for the Tolkien fanboy inside of me.
What I disliked : the action scenes (too long, ridiculous at times -too many goblins- and not even spectacular), the introduction (way too long and isn't good for the narrative), the forced antagonist, most of Jackson's humour, poor Christopher Lee, the music (more pompous than in LoTR, completely overused and too loud), the rythm (flat, about everything is equally supermegaepic for Jackson, really tiring at times), the changes of tones which were handled poorly (the gradation in the book should have been kept- another reason why a single movie would have been better) and the directing (Jackson's grammar doesn't make much sense, he reuses the same shots over and over and they lose any meaning- he should keep it simpler, not everybody is Terrence Malick).

I'd guess 4/10, I expect the same comments I had in TDKR thread


people like this are exactly the reason why some of the community members wrote in this thread expressing concern about "TL's film taste"

i mean for crying out loud, to give AUJ rating of 4/10 and even try to sound objective while doing so would be amusing, if not sad. some tolkien fans/jackson antifans in this thread are a joke, and should not watch the movie but reread the books, and leave the rest of us alone with their "opinions", because they add absolutely nothing of value to the discussion. even when the attempt to be concise and detailed in "what's wrong with the movie" is made, it's hard to take serious after a few give aways of whom you're dealing with.

in my personal opinion, Tolkien fans should be pretty happy, if you look what the movie industry is doing to Star Trek, they got a pretty sweet deal. also, i liked the movie. maybe even more than the FotR.

cheers

My film taste have nothing to do with the rest of TL, I'd know lol. My review has nothing to do with being a Tolkien fan, in fact it's probably the reason I gave t a 4 instead of a 3. You're just blinded because you disagree. There's nothing sad with my mark, or at least try to contradict me instead of making half baked insults.
I don't mind though, people in the TDKR thread called me troll and hipster, pretty amusing imho.
Edit : and the notion that tl is particularly mean with movies is really laughable.


4 out of 10 sounds about right. That places it in line with Piranha 3DD (but only because you're a Tolkien fan, phew). I think you need to seriously rethink your rating scale.

So amusing, us plebes.

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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-30 15:09:27
December 30 2012 15:08 GMT
#3949
On December 30 2012 23:37 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2012 23:15 corumjhaelen wrote:
On December 30 2012 23:07 ne0lith wrote:
On December 30 2012 22:01 corumjhaelen wrote:
Also The Matrix is very shallow, but at least the fight scenes are good.


I don't think you can even begin to understand all the sublety, symbolism and refferences that movie has but I hope that you enjoyed your popcorn.

I'm dying of laughter. I guess when you're 15 Matrix comes off as deep and smart... I suggest watching a bit more movies before acting superior with me because I watch popcorn movies oO

Haha, just because someone don't agree with you, there's no need to be a smartass. Matrix is a great movie, I mean why else would it be on probably 90% of the top lists for Sci-fi/fantasy. Don't have to be a brain surgeon to know it's a great movie

Matrix is a pretty good movie thanks to the action scene, and it will probably be a bit remembered for that. There are tons of better science fiction movie out there.
The fact that it's on a ton of lists by people who don't know much about cinema is irrelevant. A movie's popularity and its quality are two different things, I'm sure you'll agree. Matrix is popular (and not bad really).
I'll admit my post was a bit dickish, but so are the reactions to my opinion...
On December 30 2012 23:59 The Chief wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2012 23:28 corumjhaelen wrote:
Disagreeing with the majority of 15-22 years old white males on a movie->losing all credibility. I'll live with it and keep on believing Bergman and Tarkovski are better than the Wachowski's and that Georges Delerue and Morricone are better composers than Hans Zimmer.

ohhhhh i forgot we lived in a world where if someone is better than someone that automatically makes the other person bad, i guess anyone whose not Michael Jordan or Lebron James must suck at basketball
/soundprooflogic

I'll develop. From what I've seen the Wachowski's are not totally untalented, but they haven't make any really good movie. Matrix 1 isn't bad, but acting like it's a really smart movie is pretty amusing, especially as the two following movies show how little thought there was in this universe.
It's not a bad movie at all, but it's really not among the most intelligent blockbusters I've seen, and I'm limiting it to blockbusters to be nice...
Edit : to the very smart post above, I agree with plenty of people, and I don't have any problem with that. I like plenty of blockbusters... But that seems hard to comprehend.
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9644 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-30 15:13:59
December 30 2012 15:12 GMT
#3950
I don't mean to bash on the matrix, it was great. the fx were the first of its kind. but comparing it to inception is laughable. relatively, it WAS shallow.

also I lol'd at the hans Zimmer line too.
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
December 30 2012 15:29 GMT
#3951
Anyone seen action recently that is available to buy and was good enough? For example new spiderman, batman, expendables 2 or w/e.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
December 30 2012 15:38 GMT
#3952
On December 30 2012 16:32 MooMooMugi wrote:
Dredd
9/10
Sick action flick in a sci-fi environment, liked the 2 vs 1000 story style. Would recommend to anyone who loves gun fights, blood, and just typical bad-assery


I just watched it too and found it really nice. I loved the over saturated colors !
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ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
December 30 2012 16:04 GMT
#3953
The Hobbit, I thought it was very promising to start, I really liked the first hour+ or so and it was really exceeding my expectations, but then became ridiculous and cheesy and I basically zoned out for the last 45 minutes cause it was terrible and also too long anyway. Saw the high frame rate 3d version and I thought it worked OK at least, but one movie is not much of a sample to make generalizations about it and I haven't seen enough 3d movies to get a comparison sense overall either, although I know I would not want it to be a trend to come to 2d movies at all, doesn't belong or add anything there.

Also saw Death at a Funeral (the British version) which not much to say about it except it was funny, made me laugh.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12904 Posts
December 30 2012 16:12 GMT
#3954
On December 31 2012 00:12 Gene wrote:
I don't mean to bash on the matrix, it was great. the fx were the first of its kind. but comparing it to inception is laughable. relatively, it WAS shallow.

also I lol'd at the hans Zimmer line too.

is inception deep at all?
the story was pretty straight forward, the only thing that kept people wondering was that ending.

matrix raised up a lot more philosophy questions, though sometimes come off to showy
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sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-30 16:20:59
December 30 2012 16:19 GMT
#3955
So I've been on a korean movie binge lately, and here are some I saw recently: (all of these are available to stream on Netflix)

Punch: 9/10

very good movie. had it's funny moments and was pretty lighthearted, though it was a somewhat serious story. I thought all the acting was really good, and I liked that it didn't depress me. I would recommend it for someone looking for a nice story without any super heavy drama. doesn't take a whole lot of investment or heavy thinking and will leave you feeling nice and warm inside.


See You After School: 8/10

pretty hilarious in some parts. real lighthearted and enjoyable film. would recommend it if you want a very straightforward, funny movie.


The Yellow Sea: 9/10
dark film. not a lot of happiness in this movie, but the story and acting were superb and at the end you really get a sense of what they were going for. was extremely violent, and quite graphic. one thing that really hurt it, IMO, was that some of the sex scenes were graphic as hell, but they were pretty short and I guess they served a purpose. (not a big fan of sex scenes, even when they have a purpose. I usually think it's lazy story-telling)

I would only recommend it if you like violent, psychological movies and don't mind being depressed.

(make sure you stay after the first thirty seconds of credits. won't spoil it, but it helps explain one specific event that can be kind of confusing)


Mafia, The Salesman: 8/10

was funny and definitely didn't drag at all. some of the subtitles were slightly confusing, but I got the main gist of it I think. would recommend it to someone looking for a fun, simple movie that doesn't waste any time.


Barking Dogs Never Bite: 9/10

dark comedy that succeeded in every aspect. wasn't hilarious, but some of it had me laughing out loud, and it was definitely clever, if you know what I mean. kind of understated and some of the parts made me kind of uncomfortable. it's hard to hate the main character even though he is totally hate-able. leading lady did an excellent job, and is pretty in her own way. wouldn't recommend it if you have serious problems with violence against pets or if you want a laugh-out-loud, thigh-slapping romp. really reminded me of Lost in Translation for some reason. if you want a smart, understated, dark comedy I would definitely recommend it.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9644 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-30 16:37:27
December 30 2012 16:21 GMT
#3956
On December 31 2012 01:12 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 00:12 Gene wrote:
I don't mean to bash on the matrix, it was great. the fx were the first of its kind. but comparing it to inception is laughable. relatively, it WAS shallow.

also I lol'd at the hans Zimmer line too.

is inception deep at all?
the story was pretty straight forward, the only thing that kept people wondering was that ending.

matrix raised up a lot more philosophy questions, though sometimes come off to showy


inception played on the exact same trick or 'philosophic' question. literally the same one. and I don't know that the question of is perception reality is really all that deep, new, or exciting. one calls it the matrix, the other calls it a dream. both are questioning if its real.

I guess I'm partial to inception for the characters and actors telling what I thought was a more well thought out story, but the more I compare the two the more I'm convincing myself they're the same movie.

moreover I think the whole showy-ness idea is the draw of both films, and done exceptionally well on both.
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
December 30 2012 16:29 GMT
#3957
On December 31 2012 01:21 Gene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 01:12 ETisME wrote:
On December 31 2012 00:12 Gene wrote:
I don't mean to bash on the matrix, it was great. the fx were the first of its kind. but comparing it to inception is laughable. relatively, it WAS shallow.

also I lol'd at the hans Zimmer line too.

is inception deep at all?
the story was pretty straight forward, the only thing that kept people wondering was that ending.

matrix raised up a lot more philosophy questions, though sometimes come off to showy


inception played on the exact same trick or 'philosophic' question. literally the same one. and I don't know that the question of is perception reality is really all that deep, new, or exciting.

I guess I'm partial to inception for the characters and actors telling what I thought was a more well thought out story, but the more I compare the two the more I'm convincing myself they're the same movie.

I thought Inception was a little better just in the way they threw in little tidbits that replicated dream sequences in the "real" parts of the movie.

though I didn't particularly like either movie, and I really hated some of the parts of both.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
December 30 2012 17:33 GMT
#3958
Finally saw TDKR, gotta say i absolutely loved it thought michael caine was one of the strongest actors throughout the series; he really shined in the last movie.

granted, i like almost every movie i watch (not a harsh critic at all)

9/10
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
December 30 2012 18:21 GMT
#3959
On December 31 2012 00:08 corumjhaelen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2012 23:37 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
On December 30 2012 23:15 corumjhaelen wrote:
On December 30 2012 23:07 ne0lith wrote:
On December 30 2012 22:01 corumjhaelen wrote:
Also The Matrix is very shallow, but at least the fight scenes are good.


I don't think you can even begin to understand all the sublety, symbolism and refferences that movie has but I hope that you enjoyed your popcorn.

I'm dying of laughter. I guess when you're 15 Matrix comes off as deep and smart... I suggest watching a bit more movies before acting superior with me because I watch popcorn movies oO

Haha, just because someone don't agree with you, there's no need to be a smartass. Matrix is a great movie, I mean why else would it be on probably 90% of the top lists for Sci-fi/fantasy. Don't have to be a brain surgeon to know it's a great movie

Matrix is a pretty good movie thanks to the action scene, and it will probably be a bit remembered for that. There are tons of better science fiction movie out there.
The fact that it's on a ton of lists by people who don't know much about cinema is irrelevant. A movie's popularity and its quality are two different things, I'm sure you'll agree. Matrix is popular (and not bad really).
I'll admit my post was a bit dickish, but so are the reactions to my opinion...
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2012 23:59 The Chief wrote:
On December 30 2012 23:28 corumjhaelen wrote:
Disagreeing with the majority of 15-22 years old white males on a movie->losing all credibility. I'll live with it and keep on believing Bergman and Tarkovski are better than the Wachowski's and that Georges Delerue and Morricone are better composers than Hans Zimmer.

ohhhhh i forgot we lived in a world where if someone is better than someone that automatically makes the other person bad, i guess anyone whose not Michael Jordan or Lebron James must suck at basketball
/soundprooflogic

I'll develop. From what I've seen the Wachowski's are not totally untalented, but they haven't make any really good movie. Matrix 1 isn't bad, but acting like it's a really smart movie is pretty amusing, especially as the two following movies show how little thought there was in this universe.
It's not a bad movie at all, but it's really not among the most intelligent blockbusters I've seen, and I'm limiting it to blockbusters to be nice...
Edit : to the very smart post above, I agree with plenty of people, and I don't have any problem with that. I like plenty of blockbusters... But that seems hard to comprehend.

Please, give us your top 10 movies of all time. Enlighten us lowly neanderthals.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
December 30 2012 18:30 GMT
#3960
On December 31 2012 03:21 pyrogenetix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 00:08 corumjhaelen wrote:
On December 30 2012 23:37 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
On December 30 2012 23:15 corumjhaelen wrote:
On December 30 2012 23:07 ne0lith wrote:
On December 30 2012 22:01 corumjhaelen wrote:
Also The Matrix is very shallow, but at least the fight scenes are good.


I don't think you can even begin to understand all the sublety, symbolism and refferences that movie has but I hope that you enjoyed your popcorn.

I'm dying of laughter. I guess when you're 15 Matrix comes off as deep and smart... I suggest watching a bit more movies before acting superior with me because I watch popcorn movies oO

Haha, just because someone don't agree with you, there's no need to be a smartass. Matrix is a great movie, I mean why else would it be on probably 90% of the top lists for Sci-fi/fantasy. Don't have to be a brain surgeon to know it's a great movie

Matrix is a pretty good movie thanks to the action scene, and it will probably be a bit remembered for that. There are tons of better science fiction movie out there.
The fact that it's on a ton of lists by people who don't know much about cinema is irrelevant. A movie's popularity and its quality are two different things, I'm sure you'll agree. Matrix is popular (and not bad really).
I'll admit my post was a bit dickish, but so are the reactions to my opinion...
On December 30 2012 23:59 The Chief wrote:
On December 30 2012 23:28 corumjhaelen wrote:
Disagreeing with the majority of 15-22 years old white males on a movie->losing all credibility. I'll live with it and keep on believing Bergman and Tarkovski are better than the Wachowski's and that Georges Delerue and Morricone are better composers than Hans Zimmer.

ohhhhh i forgot we lived in a world where if someone is better than someone that automatically makes the other person bad, i guess anyone whose not Michael Jordan or Lebron James must suck at basketball
/soundprooflogic

I'll develop. From what I've seen the Wachowski's are not totally untalented, but they haven't make any really good movie. Matrix 1 isn't bad, but acting like it's a really smart movie is pretty amusing, especially as the two following movies show how little thought there was in this universe.
It's not a bad movie at all, but it's really not among the most intelligent blockbusters I've seen, and I'm limiting it to blockbusters to be nice...
Edit : to the very smart post above, I agree with plenty of people, and I don't have any problem with that. I like plenty of blockbusters... But that seems hard to comprehend.

Please, give us your top 10 movies of all time. Enlighten us lowly neanderthals.

Can you please express yourself clearly and without being insulting ?
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