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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On June 02 2013 03:55 Venom2 wrote: I can't wait for Robb to tear some shit up when he gets to kings landing. too funny.. knew it was coming.. executed pretty well.. rewatch the episode for all the foreshadowing | ||
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jcroisdale
United States1543 Posts
Im happy that Robb died, he was a moron. He had all the tools to build himself a great kingdom and become a great king, but instead he wants to play house. | ||
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malady
United States600 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On June 04 2013 02:40 True_Spike wrote: And yet the same people who cry about Stark's death in the show (I can't imagine people crying over books, to be honest, because it takes time to read through and digest the whole situation, meaning it's less sudden and doesn't produce that strong of an emotional response) don't seem to be interested in or bothered (on the same level) by all the evil that's actually going on around the world. That's not entirely true, of course, because I'm generalizing and that's just dumb, but in a lot of cases it's true nonetheless. I do grow attached to the charactes in books / shows, it's sad to see them go, but it's still just fiction and no matter how immersed I am there's no going around that fact. It's not like I can forget it's not real and so behave and react like it was. Not to mention GoT is just roughly 20 hours of footage (shared between ALL the characters) spread across a period of 2 years. Even if acting, writing and production quality were a few notches better than they already are (and they are not bad at all). It's not enough to build a truly compelling character, even books often fall short in that regard. I'm not judging, to be honest, I understand there are sensitive (oversensitive?) people out there. It just seems very strange to me. Are you actually someone who reads books? Honest question. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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farvacola
United States18846 Posts
On June 04 2013 02:48 Big J wrote: So, all hail to the new king in the north, right? (for as long as noone knows that Bran and Rickon are alive) + Show Spoiler + Hasn't been consummated yet  | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On June 04 2013 02:48 Big J wrote: So, all hail to the new king in the north, right? (for as long as noone knows that Bran and Rickon are alive) + Show Spoiler + He's too short to be a King. New footstool of the North, maybe. | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
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KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
So obvious it's staged | ||
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son1dow
Lithuania322 Posts
On June 04 2013 02:40 True_Spike wrote: And yet the same people who cry about Stark's death in the show don't seem to be interested in or bothered (on the same level) by all the evil that's actually going on around the world. The reason people cried about this wasn't because of the fall of Stark family's power or the fact that it was murder, it's because the show developed a personal connection with these people and then you saw them coldly murdered in front of your eyes in a few minutes. Shock and sadness are natural reactions at this point. <...> but it's still just fiction and no matter how immersed I am there's no going around that fact. It's not like I can forget it's not real and so behave and react like it was. There's no natural distinction here. Your brain considers them humans, apart from the weird wall that some of us put up to separate ourselves from the fictional characters (or people in power used to separate themselves from slaves, even). In my experience, different people have very different kinds of these walls, and obviously not everybody's wall works the same. IMHO, the only way to truly get immersed in the story is to not have a big wall there. It works even more strongly with books for me, although, as you pointed out, a book doesn't usually put out the shock value of having such a murder scene and having you just read it all at once in 10 minutes, greedily soaking the sadness in. | ||
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duoform
Spain5180 Posts
On June 04 2013 02:48 Big J wrote: So, all hail to the new king in the north, right? (for as long as noone knows that Bran and Rickon are alive) + Show Spoiler + I like Tyrion and I think he's the right guy to be in the Iron Throne but for the love of god, let Jon be the King in the North and rip apart every single Bolton and Frey alive... and Tywin. I have to wonder what really happens now. Westeros lives in peace until Dany comes with Dragons and burns them all? Because I don't see any other house besides of course, the Starks going to war against the Lannister. I don't see Stannis being a threat to Tywin to be completely honest... | ||
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True_Spike
Poland3426 Posts
On June 04 2013 02:50 Bagi wrote: Are you actually someone who reads books? Honest question. Yes, although not nearly as many as I would have liked. The only emotion "troubling" events in the books evoke in me is the need to keep reading no matter what. "Just a single page more". | ||
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TimENT
United States1425 Posts
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True_Spike
Poland3426 Posts
On June 04 2013 02:53 son1dow wrote: The reason people cried about this wasn't because of the fall of Stark family's power or the fact that it was murder, it's because the show developed a personal connection with these people and then you saw them coldly murdered in front of your eyes in a few minutes. Shock and sadness are natural reactions at this point. There's no natural distinction here. Your brain considers them humans, apart from the weird wall that some of us put up to separate ourselves from the fictional characters (or people in power used to separate themselves from slaves, even). In my experience, different people have very different kinds of these walls, and obviously not everybody's wall works the same. IMHO, the only way to truly get immersed in the story is to not have a big wall there. It works even more strongly with books for me, although, as you pointed out, a book doesn't usually put out the shock value of having such a murder scene and having you just read it all at once in 10 minutes, greedily soaking the sadness in. I guess it does depend on the person. I still find it extremely weird though. And it's not like I'm desensitised myself - I consider myself a very empathetic person. That said, no work of fiction has ever managed to make me feel like I would in a similar situation, but in real life - and fiction is my dear lover. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On June 04 2013 02:54 duoform wrote: I like Tyrion and I think he's the right guy to be in the Iron Throne but for the love of god, let Jon be the King in the North and rip apart every single Bolton and Frey alive... and Tywin. I have to wonder what really happens now. Westeros lives in peace until Dany comes with Dragons and burns them all? Because I don't see any other house besides of course, the Starks going to war against the Lannister. I don't see Stannis being a threat to Tywin to be completely honest... In terms of progression, we're only halfway through the third book. There's still plenty left to the show, so buckle down. Plus you're forgetting the Cthulhu worshiping Vikings camped out in the North, and the Wildlings. Remember, GRRM is the master of surprize. | ||
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[]Phase[]
Belgium927 Posts
On June 04 2013 02:47 malady wrote: them shooting the dire wolf hurt me the most >_< Yea man, those poor animals : ( Right in the feels. I thought the killing of robb and cat was great, it gives more seriousness to 'the game'. Otherwise It'd feel like all the parties involved were just playing some kids game if no one was ever in any real danger. Ive never rooted for any character, I just like watching different personalities take different paths. I do like some characters more than others, and might be abit bummed if they get killed off, but there are plenty to pick from. The show must go on! | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On June 04 2013 02:54 duoform wrote: I like Tyrion and I think he's the right guy to be in the Iron Throne but for the love of god, let Jon be the King in the North and rip apart every single Bolton and Frey alive... and Tywin. I have to wonder what really happens now. Westeros lives in peace until Dany comes with Dragons and burns them all? Because I don't see any other house besides of course, the Starks going to war against the Lannister. I don't see Stannis being a threat to Tywin to be completely honest... Pfff... I just wish Tywin would rule them all! He's probably the best character in the series. Stonecold, charismatic, clever. All you'd ever want from the goodguy  (but somehow I feel like Tywin is one of the next to go  ) | ||
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tuho12345
4482 Posts
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU @GameOfThrones @HBO #fuckyoubenioff hahaha | ||
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
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