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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8181 Posts
On May 24 2012 09:16 -Archangel- wrote: Incredible, a page back mods delete couple of posts because of spoilers and now people come up with same shit again, same spoilers. Take your book knowledge to the other thread. You will recognize yourself. I don't want to quote you. I'm trying very hard to find the book spoilers in the last couple of posts, and I honestly can't find it. All I can see is Rome history discussion and a quote directly from the show. I didn't see the original nuked discussion though, but if by chance someone mentioned something that someone else mentioned was in the books, it hardly merits "book spoiler". I think mods needs a timeout in this thread as well. Theres a ton of people who's getting nuked or warned because they guessed something that might happen later, and it just so happen it does in the books, even if they've never read it themselves. Remember, if someone says "Thats from the books! Spoilers!", then suddenly it becomes one even if the original poster had no idea/intention of it. edit: I respect that you didn't quote it thought  | ||
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Critter
United States196 Posts
On May 24 2012 09:24 Excludos wrote: I'm trying very hard to find the book spoilers in the last couple of posts, and I honestly can't find it. All I can see is Rome history discussion and a quote directly from the show. I didn't see the original nuked discussion though, but if by chance someone mentioned something that someone else mentioned was in the books, it hardly merits "book spoiler". I think mods needs a timeout in this thread as well. Theres a ton of people who's getting nuked or warned because they guessed something that might happen later, and it just so happen it does in the books, even if they've never read it themselves. Remember, if someone says "Thats from the books! Spoilers!", then suddenly it becomes one even if the original poster had no idea/intention of it. edit: I respect that you didn't quote it thought I don't see it either... been pretty careful to not post things that can't be deduced from the show/dvd extras. | ||
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Shidoshi
United States3 Posts
On May 24 2012 09:34 Critter wrote: I don't see it either... been pretty careful to not post things that can't be deduced from the show/dvd extras. The quote from the show and the book are different. | ||
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Karliath
United States2214 Posts
On May 24 2012 09:34 Critter wrote: I don't see it either... been pretty careful to not post things that can't be deduced from the show/dvd extras. I found one. I don't know if it's the one he's talking about, but yeah.... Technically, it's not a spoiler, but someone who has never read the books would never phrase the suspect sentence in such a manner. For someone who has read the books like myself, or someone with a very keen eye, however, it does stand out as peculiar (and therefore spoiler-y). | ||
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Ben-
United Kingdom210 Posts
On May 24 2012 09:37 Shidoshi wrote: The quote from the show and the book are different. This. My god how difficult is it not to post things from the book? | ||
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Critter
United States196 Posts
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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
I always thought the Doom was thousands of years in the past. EDIT: How do you not "mention things from future books". Martin's style of foreshadowing is to tell you exactly what's going to happen and then wait two books before it actually happens. | ||
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Critter
United States196 Posts
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On May 24 2012 10:56 Offhand wrote: If the Doom of Valyria was only 300 years ago, how did everyone forget about the existence of magic? I always thought the Doom was thousands of years in the past. EDIT: How do you not "mention things from future books". Martin's style of foreshadowing is to tell you exactly what's going to happen and then wait two books before it actually happens. I'm too stupid for Martin's style of foreshadowing. I can't be told what exactly is going to happen. I'm always surprised when it happens two books later. Just post in the other thread. | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On May 24 2012 10:56 Offhand wrote: [...] EDIT: How do you not "mention things from future books". Martin's style of foreshadowing is to tell you exactly what's going to happen and then wait two books before it actually happens. You're not supposed to mention anything from any book in this thread. This is the TV only thread. You only post here if you havn't read the books basically. Otherwise the chances are pretty big you accidentally spoiler something. I'm pretty sure what you just said was a spoiler too, as I've never heard about that stuff in the TV series. | ||
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iokke
United States1179 Posts
On May 23 2012 17:18 Sub40APM wrote: Also, is Stark Northern for 'derp' ? Derp, ordered to kill a prisoner instead get self captured and of 3 of your comrades killed. Derp, let 20 pirates steal your castle. Double Derp let a two dealing liar who already betrayed your husband and crippled your son talk you into giving up the greatest soldier on the bad guy side for 2 girls who are useless. Triple Derp, seduced by some medic even though you are fighting at the very least a two front war and need your logistics train protected, made sure that all your nobles see that you are busy boning hot medic so that they question your judgment more so than they already do due to your moms derp. Quadriple Derp, have the power of life and death over any human being, family in deep shit due to derpy nature of their derptidue instead of killing the only two intelligent people in your enemies camp, Tyrion and Tywen, order the murder of a random torturer, a random-and-pretty-incompetent-minor-lord and a bunch of guards. lol kinda hard not to agree tt, decision making, especially in the last episode, made me doubt the show for the first time (well maybe 2nd considering the shadow assassin thingy). Another thing that annoys me because it makes 0 sense is Theon pretending he killed Stark children. He knows that they are alive and will show up eventually. Then everyone will know he lied and wouldn't that make people lose respect for him that he wants so much? Where's the logic? Only potential benefit is to scare people into obeying him for a short period of time perhaps (perhaps even only days, he has no way of knowing when knews that Stark boys are alive will arive). Also in Arya's defense, that lord needed to die because she derped earlier, when she was running around the castle waving the letter she stole in the air, and he took it from her. I think she was just testing the guy with torturer, and she did try to get Tywin on the list in the end right? | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
On May 25 2012 07:44 iokke wrote: Also in Arya's defense, that lord needed to die because she derped earlier, when she was running around the castle waving the letter she stole in the air, and he took it from her. I think she was just testing the guy with torturer, and she did try to get Tywin on the list in the end right? Yea, she wanted to get Tywin, but realized it would be impossible to kill him in time. | ||
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KainiT
Austria392 Posts
On May 25 2012 07:44 iokke wrote: lol kinda hard not to agree tt, decision making, especially in the last episode, made me doubt the show for the first time (well maybe 2nd considering the shadow assassin thingy). Another thing that annoys me because it makes 0 sense is Theon pretending he killed Stark children. He knows that they are alive and will show up eventually. Then everyone will know he lied and wouldn't that make people lose respect for him that he wants so much? Where's the logic? Only potential benefit is to scare people into obeying him for a short period of time perhaps (perhaps even only days, he has no way of knowing when knews that Stark boys are alive will arive). Also in Arya's defense, that lord needed to die because she derped earlier, when she was running around the castle waving the letter she stole in the air, and he took it from her. I think she was just testing the guy with torturer, and she did try to get Tywin on the list in the end right? First of all derp is not at all a word that should be used by any sane person. Secondly I don't agree with both of you. For example Arya is a child. I do not want to go into more detail here, how she doesn't even know Tyrion for example, or how Tywin basically saved her life. There are many more facts about here story that prove that your thinking is just not very good. Catelyn made the deal with Tyrion and not with Jaime. Furthermore Theon knew that he would not be able tocatch them. So what to do? Going back to the castle and telling everybody that he can not find them? There is no way for them to get back while he still is the lord of winterfell so you whole argument is invald. Instead of starting your thought process with "Hm I don't really get this so I guess the show is just stupid and the books that millions have read don't really make sense" you should maybe think "Why did they/he/she do that? Have I overlooked something?" | ||
BroOd
Austin10833 Posts
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
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iokke
United States1179 Posts
On May 25 2012 08:15 KainiT wrote: First of all derp is not at all a word that should be used by any sane person. Secondly I don't agree with both of you. For example Arya is a child. I do not want to go into more detail here, how she doesn't even know Tyrion for example, or how Tywin basically saved her life. There are many more facts about here story that prove that your thinking is just not very good. Catelyn made the deal with Tyrion and not with Jaime. Furthermore Theon knew that he would not be able tocatch them. So what to do? Going back to the castle and telling everybody that he can not find them? There is no way for them to get back while he still is the lord of winterfell so you whole argument is invald. Instead of starting your thought process with "Hm I don't really get this so I guess the show is just stupid and the books that millions have read don't really make sense" you should maybe think "Why did they/he/she do that? Have I overlooked something?" Heh, u came off kinda like a dick, but here we go: The only thing that didn't make sense to me as far as writing goes was Theon. Other "derp" mentions are believable, just bad decisions by characters I was actually looking for someone to provide a good explanation for Theon's actions so that it stops annoying me. Yours really doesn't fit for me precisely because he could not catch them and because he does not know when his lies will be revealed. What's more embarrassing? Going back without children, or going back claiming that you burned them, only to be made a fool out of if any news about them being alive appear? Though perhaps you are right, but if anyone can give me a better explanation I would appreciate it. The more I understand the show the more fun it is to watch. About 'derp', I was just having a bit of fun. Sorry:D. Ya Aria is only a child, thx for pointing that out, but she was smart enough to want Tywin dead, and tried to ask for it as well. Besides I kinda defended her there anyway. And yes, running around with a paper in her hand instead of hiding it can be because she was too scared/excited, but certainly wasn't smart even for a kid. Also for me it doesn't matter who Catelyn made the deal with, not sure what your point was there. All Lannisters always pay their debts, I think she operates under that assumption (though Tyrion doesnt have Aria...). I'm assuming she feared that the crowd will kill Jaime, and in turn her daughters will be killed. If so, would it not make more sense to sneak him out the same way, but only to hide him till Rob gets back? It's just too big of a concession on her part, but although kinda understandable, it's still very der... unwise. | ||
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Critter
United States196 Posts
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Spitfire
South Africa442 Posts
On May 23 2012 17:18 Sub40APM wrote: Also, is Stark Northern for 'derp' ? Derp, ordered to kill a prisoner instead get self captured and of 3 of your comrades killed. Derp, let 20 pirates steal your castle. Double Derp let a two dealing liar who already betrayed your husband and crippled your son talk you into giving up the greatest soldier on the bad guy side for 2 girls who are useless. Triple Derp, seduced by some medic even though you are fighting at the very least a two front war and need your logistics train protected, made sure that all your nobles see that you are busy boning hot medic so that they question your judgment more so than they already do due to your moms derp. Quadriple Derp, have the power of life and death over any human being, family in deep shit due to derpy nature of their derptidue instead of killing the only two intelligent people in your enemies camp, Tyrion and Tywen, order the murder of a random torturer, a random-and-pretty-incompetent-minor-lord and a bunch of guards. Yeah cause Jon definitely knew three of his comrades were gonna die if he didnt cut off the girls head Robb definitely should have known Theon was gonna backstab him Catlin Stark would definitely consider her two daughters 'useless' and not worth trading for Robb, when confronted with a hot nurse in his tent, would definitely be thinking about his logistics train An 8 year old girl would definitely have an acute understanding of the greater politics of the situation I'm afraid the only thing I see that's "derp" is your perception of human nature | ||
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oldgregg
New Zealand1176 Posts
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