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scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
April 14 2012 21:00 GMT
#7701
On April 15 2012 04:43 ZeGzoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 04:09 Recognizable wrote:
Lol, just watched episode 2 and Tyrion is such a boss lol.


They should make a series only about him and his companion, would be awsome seeing them going around the world owning shit up.


Someone agrees with you:

You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
April 14 2012 21:17 GMT
#7702
omg, thats brilliant... so good :D
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
MrBrunk
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada428 Posts
April 14 2012 21:49 GMT
#7703
Aw man, not Rihkaro. Why didn't they decide to kill off one of the other two riders
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
April 14 2012 23:06 GMT
#7704
On April 15 2012 05:43 TheMatrix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 05:36 hugedong wrote:
No such thing as a lead character in this show.

Stark was a lead character in season one, I don't know if intentionally or not, but the show revolved around him.

Lack of such character in season 2 is really weakening the show!

Why do you think it's weaker? What does the show lack now that it doesn't have a well-defined lead?

I don't get the feeling there isn't a "big name" to follow, its just a matter of which character's arc tickles your fancy. Jon Snow north of the wall? Tyrion in King's Landing? Arya on the King's Road? Rob in the Riverlands? Theon in the Iron Islands? I don't think any of those characters are weak/poorly written for or played out on screen.
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hugedong
Profile Joined June 2010
United States510 Posts
April 14 2012 23:19 GMT
#7705
On April 15 2012 05:43 TheMatrix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 05:36 hugedong wrote:
No such thing as a lead character in this show.

Stark was a lead character in season one, I don't know if intentionally or not, but the show revolved around him.

Lack of such character in season 2 is really weakening the show!

He didn't actually do anything other than give the audience some background info. He literally just goes to the capital and dies.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 14 2012 23:21 GMT
#7706
On April 15 2012 06:49 TheBrunk wrote:
Aw man, not Rihkaro. Why didn't they decide to kill off one of the other two riders

Dont exactly know who of the three that is, but I know they killed one of them off because the actor had to leave the show.
Off-season = best season
TheMatrix
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
51 Posts
April 15 2012 00:43 GMT
#7707
On April 15 2012 08:06 p4NDemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 05:43 TheMatrix wrote:
On April 15 2012 05:36 hugedong wrote:
No such thing as a lead character in this show.

Stark was a lead character in season one, I don't know if intentionally or not, but the show revolved around him.

Lack of such character in season 2 is really weakening the show!

Why do you think it's weaker? What does the show lack now that it doesn't have a well-defined lead?

I don't get the feeling there isn't a "big name" to follow, its just a matter of which character's arc tickles your fancy. Jon Snow north of the wall? Tyrion in King's Landing? Arya on the King's Road? Rob in the Riverlands? Theon in the Iron Islands? I don't think any of those characters are weak/poorly written for or played out on screen.

Just because none have that nobility and charisma in them and are generally too sided to become more important.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
April 15 2012 01:15 GMT
#7708
On April 15 2012 09:43 TheMatrix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 08:06 p4NDemik wrote:
On April 15 2012 05:43 TheMatrix wrote:
On April 15 2012 05:36 hugedong wrote:
No such thing as a lead character in this show.

Stark was a lead character in season one, I don't know if intentionally or not, but the show revolved around him.

Lack of such character in season 2 is really weakening the show!

Why do you think it's weaker? What does the show lack now that it doesn't have a well-defined lead?

I don't get the feeling there isn't a "big name" to follow, its just a matter of which character's arc tickles your fancy. Jon Snow north of the wall? Tyrion in King's Landing? Arya on the King's Road? Rob in the Riverlands? Theon in the Iron Islands? I don't think any of those characters are weak/poorly written for or played out on screen.

Just because none have that nobility and charisma in them and are generally too sided to become more important.


id say tyrion has more charisma in his own way than anyone
beep boop
MShaw006
Profile Joined April 2011
United States74 Posts
April 15 2012 01:38 GMT
#7709
On April 15 2012 10:15 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 09:43 TheMatrix wrote:
On April 15 2012 08:06 p4NDemik wrote:
On April 15 2012 05:43 TheMatrix wrote:
On April 15 2012 05:36 hugedong wrote:
No such thing as a lead character in this show.

Stark was a lead character in season one, I don't know if intentionally or not, but the show revolved around him.

Lack of such character in season 2 is really weakening the show!

Why do you think it's weaker? What does the show lack now that it doesn't have a well-defined lead?

I don't get the feeling there isn't a "big name" to follow, its just a matter of which character's arc tickles your fancy. Jon Snow north of the wall? Tyrion in King's Landing? Arya on the King's Road? Rob in the Riverlands? Theon in the Iron Islands? I don't think any of those characters are weak/poorly written for or played out on screen.

Just because none have that nobility and charisma in them and are generally too sided to become more important.


id say tyrion has more charisma in his own way than anyone


I think he's saying that the viewer has no moral compass without Ned, so everything just seems like bickering among biased parties.

I get that sentiment, but I think there are still good people that the viewer can trust, namely the Stark family, Jon Snow, and (I think) Tyrion.

Also, the show is arguably more interesting without a central moral figure. Pretty much the entire "Great Modern TV Shows" list (The Wire, The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Mad Men) do away with a "good" lead character in favor of personalized, ambiguous moral codes. It takes more work on the part of the viewer, but, in the end, I believe shows are richer and more satisfying that way.
LilClinkin
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Australia667 Posts
April 15 2012 01:52 GMT
#7710
Stannis is the rightful heir to the throne! Joffrey whoreson is a maniacal prick born of incest, Balon greyjoy is a smelly old pirate, Dany is on the other side of the world, Robb just wants his little corner of Westeros, and Renly likes rainbows! Gogogo Stannis and Davos!!!
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
April 15 2012 02:00 GMT
#7711
I think Tyrion would make a great lead character, considering that he's well aware that Joffrey is a little shit and I think he's the only important person in King's Landing that would mock Joffrey to his face (he's already done plenty of that in episode 1, lol). He's also the biggest fan favorite so him getting as much attention as Ned did in season 1 would be perfect.
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
April 15 2012 18:58 GMT
#7712
Anyone got link where can I watch this live? The episode 3, which is going to start soon.
750/750 emotions fully stacked
Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
April 15 2012 19:06 GMT
#7713
On April 16 2012 03:58 arew wrote:
Anyone got link where can I watch this live? The episode 3, which is going to start soon.


You can't use this thread to request illegal downloads or streams. See the warning at the top. There are no legal streams apart from HBO Go.
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
April 15 2012 19:08 GMT
#7714
Yeah I've asked about HBO, but I can't find anything there ;D
750/750 emotions fully stacked
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
April 15 2012 19:13 GMT
#7715
Tyrion is one of my favorite characters..

He's the good bad guy, or the bad good guy!
maru lover forever
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 20:11:21
April 15 2012 19:18 GMT
#7716
On April 15 2012 05:43 TheMatrix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 05:36 hugedong wrote:
No such thing as a lead character in this show.

Stark was a lead character in season one, I don't know if intentionally or not, but the show revolved around him.

Lack of such character in season 2 is really weakening the show!

The big thing of the books/story, is that there is no main character.
Or better: There are many main characters!
However, this very hard or even impossible to show you detail's about all the chars in so short air time.
Because this mulit main chars and the detail description on them all, cant be there in the show, they have to find a way to get around it.

Even if this way is to change the story a little bit.
After 0202 im afraid that they dont do it because last episode was just key-scene after key-scene.
Even mixing key-scenes together. Not a single sentence or picture was unimportant for the story.
If you show so much stuff, in so short time, you loose the feeling for "the story".

e.g. There is a difference if you just hear the sentence "all widlings are gone north" or:
If you see them travel 15 min throw empty citys and endless snow, so that you ask yourself the question: "where did they go?" before you hear the answer.

Its stupid to compare books to films or series. Its a different format and you have to respect that.
I think the only solution is, to alter the story, cut some site story complete out and focus more on others.
You have to adept to the format and the time, to tell the/a good story.
People who read the books may think about the missing parts but for all others it will only look like a row of keyscense without the feeling and exiting for the story.

---
just the be clear before some complains that the word book is in this post:
I write about how to adept a story that original comes from a book can be adept to a tv format and why i feel they fail in this at the moment.
Without spoiling anything and without compare them (what is always stupid because they are different formats)

Save gaming: kill esport
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
April 15 2012 19:26 GMT
#7717
It's also worth noting that the scale of the story in season 2 is much more grand than season 1. In season 1, it was mostly about the feud between House Stark and House Lannister. Naturally, the events that occurred in the last episodes of season 1 attracted the attention from all over Westeros, so there's a lot more to worry about than just House Lannister.
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
April 15 2012 19:44 GMT
#7718
On April 16 2012 04:26 LoLAdriankat wrote:
It's also worth noting that the scale of the story in season 2 is much more grand than season 1. In season 1, it was mostly about the feud between House Stark and House Lannister. Naturally, the events that occurred in the last episodes of season 1 attracted the attention from all over Westeros, so there's a lot more to worry about than just House Lannister.

Yah once they really introduce Renly's camp I think everything will start to come together for the show.
houseurmusic
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States544 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 19:50:55
April 15 2012 19:50 GMT
#7719
LOL snl's take on game of thrones nudity. Mainly how the writers are adding more sex to the show when there was already enough enough the books.

http://gawker.com/5902076/snl-explains-the-nudity-in-game-of-thrones
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 20:38:29
April 15 2012 20:03 GMT
#7720
On April 16 2012 04:50 houseurmusic wrote:
LOL snl's take on game of thrones nudity. Mainly how the writers are adding more sex to the show when there was already enough enough the books.


Its kind of wired for me that this is mentioned all the time.
I think, this is a culture difference between eu and us.

This is an American series that handle sex very free for American standards.
I understand the culture "shock" but sex is an important part of life.
So i think its normal that its a important part in a story about lifes.

EDIT:
i thought Martin comes from UK but he comes from USA.
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