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GhostOwl
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
766 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 11:49:46
April 12 2012 11:49 GMT
#7641
whoa wtf happened on this page lol...i'm so glad the posts got moderated before i read the spoilers

edit: fuck my post went to the next page haha..
Perscienter
Profile Joined June 2010
957 Posts
April 12 2012 14:08 GMT
#7642
Do you want an honest advice? Just stay away from all Song-of-Ice-and-Fire-discussions on the Internet until you've read all books.

When I visited the aCoK Just-reading forum, one of the first things happening was, that some poster told the other ones basically: 'Hey, did character A in aCoK already know, that character B is dead in aSoS?'.

Especially stay away from all commentaries on Youtube.

The other thread is filled with some jerks, too, which only post spoilers without discussing the book.

And in this one, moderators simply can't remove spoiling posts instantly.


So it boils down to stay away from it. The Internet is the death of anticipation.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 12 2012 14:51 GMT
#7643
For sure stay away from IMDB forums. There people open new topics with huge spoilers in name just to ruin non-reader experience.

I love reading about the show from non-readers but that is so hard in most forums with all the book readers scarring them away
Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
April 12 2012 14:58 GMT
#7644
On April 12 2012 23:51 -Archangel- wrote:
For sure stay away from IMDB forums. There people open new topics with huge spoilers in name just to ruin non-reader experience.

I love reading about the show from non-readers but that is so hard in most forums with all the book readers scarring them away


If you want a non-spoiler thread that is very heavily and successfully moderated, try this one: http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=6a0f21c97b078642072a95f3d69ce605&showtopic=3204374&st=2550
They have gone to the extent that you can't post in it if you have read the books even though your intention is not to spoil.

It is also very enjoyable to read for people like me who have read the books.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 12 2012 15:17 GMT
#7645
I know about that one. I been reading some. But that one brings me down as they analyze too much and come to wrong conclusions all the time. It just showed me that this TV show has gone astray too much from the original or that HBO in some of its changes didn't change enough so it all makes sense again and brings TV watchers to same conclusions.

I prefer reading people opinions on each episode, not analysis like it is real life. I can get enough of that from Westeros forums about the real thing.
Emix_Squall
Profile Joined February 2012
France705 Posts
April 12 2012 19:02 GMT
#7646
So this topic was basically to talk about the show and that's what I'd like to do. I've been rewatching some of the first season episodes and been really intrigued about one thing, so I'd like other peoples opinion about it.

Do you think Aemon Targaryen, blind man currently being the Maester of Castle Black, will have any importance in the rest of the story or was the story about his life (the one he talked about to Jon Snow) only here to prove a point about respecting one's vows (it seems to be what he did in the past) ?

Personnally I'd love to see him get some kind of importance later in the story. The man basically lived an era that is reported as so far away for most characters that we can't really know how things were bach then. Also, this makes Danny NOT the only Targaryen alive (even though we could probably have guessed other would be alive somewhere), and most important, he could know things about dragons ....
shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 21:08:06
April 12 2012 21:04 GMT
#7647
On April 13 2012 04:02 Emix_Squall wrote:
So this topic was basically to talk about the show and that's what I'd like to do. I've been rewatching some of the first season episodes and been really intrigued about one thing, so I'd like other peoples opinion about it.

Do you think Aemon Targaryen, blind man currently being the Maester of Castle Black, will have any importance in the rest of the story or was the story about his life (the one he talked about to Jon Snow) only here to prove a point about respecting one's vows (it seems to be what he did in the past) ?

Personnally I'd love to see him get some kind of importance later in the story. The man basically lived an era that is reported as so far away for most characters that we can't really know how things were bach then. Also, this makes Danny NOT the only Targaryen alive (even though we could probably have guessed other would be alive somewhere), and most important, he could know things about dragons ....


i dont know, but i suspect that it's just to make the world more vivid with the detailed backstory etc... and maybe to show that the nights watch don't give a flying f*** about the civil war.

if i remember correctly, ser jorah mormont, the knight who protects daenarys, is the son of the lord commander of the nights watch.

but as i'm currently reading a clash of kings, there are hundreds of characters in the book with all manner of ties... it's not just daenarys and the nights watch.


on another note - it would all be pretty boring without tyrion. best character ever... everyone else is either dumb, cliche 'lawful good' honorable or ruthless.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
April 12 2012 21:20 GMT
#7648
On April 13 2012 04:02 Emix_Squall wrote:
So this topic was basically to talk about the show and that's what I'd like to do. I've been rewatching some of the first season episodes and been really intrigued about one thing, so I'd like other peoples opinion about it.

Do you think Aemon Targaryen, blind man currently being the Maester of Castle Black, will have any importance in the rest of the story or was the story about his life (the one he talked about to Jon Snow) only here to prove a point about respecting one's vows (it seems to be what he did in the past) ?

Personnally I'd love to see him get some kind of importance later in the story. The man basically lived an era that is reported as so far away for most characters that we can't really know how things were bach then. Also, this makes Danny NOT the only Targaryen alive (even though we could probably have guessed other would be alive somewhere), and most important, he could know things about dragons ....


IMO that conversation is really there to remind Jon Snow that he isn't the only person on the wall who had important family. Aemon is trying to let him know he went through a similar process and that keeping their vows is important. As for dragons, I doubt he knows anything as even though he is extremely old, the last dragons died off hundreds of years before GoT (as far as I know).
LilClinkin
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Australia667 Posts
April 13 2012 03:06 GMT
#7649
On April 13 2012 04:02 Emix_Squall wrote:
So this topic was basically to talk about the show and that's what I'd like to do. I've been rewatching some of the first season episodes and been really intrigued about one thing, so I'd like other peoples opinion about it.

Do you think Aemon Targaryen, blind man currently being the Maester of Castle Black, will have any importance in the rest of the story or was the story about his life (the one he talked about to Jon Snow) only here to prove a point about respecting one's vows (it seems to be what he did in the past) ?

Personnally I'd love to see him get some kind of importance later in the story. The man basically lived an era that is reported as so far away for most characters that we can't really know how things were bach then. Also, this makes Danny NOT the only Targaryen alive (even though we could probably have guessed other would be alive somewhere), and most important, he could know things about dragons ....


I think his character will be featured again in the show =)
PoopLord
Profile Joined May 2010
537 Posts
April 13 2012 03:31 GMT
#7650
Anybody got the song names used in the trailers for season 2 besides seven devils? so good
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
April 13 2012 03:41 GMT
#7651
On April 13 2012 04:02 Emix_Squall wrote:
So this topic was basically to talk about the show and that's what I'd like to do. I've been rewatching some of the first season episodes and been really intrigued about one thing, so I'd like other peoples opinion about it.

Do you think Aemon Targaryen, blind man currently being the Maester of Castle Black, will have any importance in the rest of the story or was the story about his life (the one he talked about to Jon Snow) only here to prove a point about respecting one's vows (it seems to be what he did in the past) ?

Personnally I'd love to see him get some kind of importance later in the story. The man basically lived an era that is reported as so far away for most characters that we can't really know how things were bach then. Also, this makes Danny NOT the only Targaryen alive (even though we could probably have guessed other would be alive somewhere), and most important, he could know things about dragons ....

He is pretty old to really have a major impact. If Danny were to come to power I could see him being summoned to Kings Landing to educate her about the history of the Targaryen's.
Hoodlum
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States350 Posts
April 13 2012 03:44 GMT
#7652
On April 13 2012 06:04 shizna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 04:02 Emix_Squall wrote:
So this topic was basically to talk about the show and that's what I'd like to do. I've been rewatching some of the first season episodes and been really intrigued about one thing, so I'd like other peoples opinion about it.

Do you think Aemon Targaryen, blind man currently being the Maester of Castle Black, will have any importance in the rest of the story or was the story about his life (the one he talked about to Jon Snow) only here to prove a point about respecting one's vows (it seems to be what he did in the past) ?

Personnally I'd love to see him get some kind of importance later in the story. The man basically lived an era that is reported as so far away for most characters that we can't really know how things were bach then. Also, this makes Danny NOT the only Targaryen alive (even though we could probably have guessed other would be alive somewhere), and most important, he could know things about dragons ....


i dont know, but i suspect that it's just to make the world more vivid with the detailed backstory etc... and maybe to show that the nights watch don't give a flying f*** about the civil war.

if i remember correctly, ser jorah mormont, the knight who protects daenarys, is the son of the lord commander of the nights watch.

but as i'm currently reading a clash of kings, there are hundreds of characters in the book with all manner of ties... it's not just daenarys and the nights watch.


on another note - it would all be pretty boring without tyrion. best character ever... everyone else is either dumb, cliche 'lawful good' honorable or ruthless.


Jorah is the son of the lord commander. They even talk about it how his son had disgraced his name and family and that's why he gives his sword to Jon. xD
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BlindKill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia1508 Posts
April 13 2012 05:32 GMT
#7653
Im one of those that read the books and then watched the movie. From a non-readers perspective I would have no fucking clue whats happening in episode 1 of season 2 seriously..... That old guy cheers the red lady and dies o.O? and also the burning of the wooden statues too. I think the show is really trying to rush through this season for some reason... should slow down and explain the plots clearer.
“Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him up depends on the stuff he's made of.”
Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
April 13 2012 06:25 GMT
#7654
It's not really rushed, per se. The old guy explains his motives to Davos within the half of the episode that the span of his time on the show takes place - it's pretty plain to see what he's trying to do and how he succeeds/fails. The wooden statues get mentioned again in Episode 2 when Stannis complains that he's prayed to her new god and still he feels forsaken and doomed. Really, the pace is pushing it on the slower side already given the dearth of decent action so far. Some of the comments in recent pages of this thread have been to that effect - that Season 2 is off to a way-to-slow of a start and needs to pick it up in order to reach the level of the first season.
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. - Bilbo
nennx
Profile Joined April 2010
United States310 Posts
April 13 2012 06:25 GMT
#7655
On April 13 2012 14:32 BlindKill wrote:
Im one of those that read the books and then watched the movie. From a non-readers perspective I would have no fucking clue whats happening in episode 1 of season 2 seriously..... That old guy cheers the red lady and dies o.O? and also the burning of the wooden statues too. I think the show is really trying to rush through this season for some reason... should slow down and explain the plots clearer.


he puts something in the drink to poison them both, its shown in the show

the statues thing is kind of random seeming though
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IamVirGin
Profile Joined March 2012
119 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 08:24:06
April 13 2012 08:23 GMT
#7656
On April 13 2012 14:32 BlindKill wrote:
Im one of those that read the books and then watched the movie. From a non-readers perspective I would have no fucking clue whats happening in episode 1 of season 2 seriously..... That old guy cheers the red lady and dies o.O? and also the burning of the wooden statues too. I think the show is really trying to rush through this season for some reason... should slow down and explain the plots clearer.


I think people who read the book are too hung up in needing to understand every little detail, particularly of this ritual.

I haven't read the books, and I had no problems with the scene. Obviously some religious ritual where they forsake some old gods and accept some new god. Not everybody is happy about this. Woman in red obviously some priestess which in the poisoning scene is shown to have some real mystical powers. She has influence over Stannis.

This is pretty much all I got out of this scene, and all you need to get out of it.

I re-watched the episode after reading this thread, and got ahold of a lot more of the subtleties of the scene, but broad strokes. You do not need an exact detailed understanding of EVERYTHING to enjoy it.
Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 11:13:17
April 13 2012 11:12 GMT
#7657
On April 13 2012 06:04 shizna wrote:
on another note - it would all be pretty boring without tyrion. best character ever... everyone else is either dumb, cliche 'lawful good' honorable or ruthless.


Hmm, I agree Tyrion is a great character, but I strongly disagree with your asessment of the other characters. A few of them fall into those categories, but far from all.
Dr.Lettuce
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United Kingdom663 Posts
April 13 2012 13:25 GMT
#7658
On April 12 2012 08:35 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 08:32 Dr.Lettuce wrote:
Maybe I missed something here, but why the fuck has no one in the dothraki tribe questioned why their queen has just given birth to a fucking dragon?


Because she didn't give birth to dragons and because they're the first dragons that anyone has seen in CENTURIES? They're not going to be all suspicious or anything...


Okok I missed the part about carrying the eggs... my bad.

Erm... I don't understand the second part. Yes, no one has seen dragons in centuries, so why would no one say anything? It's like me seeing a T-rex and thinking, oh that's mildly unusual. I'll just carry on with my day now.

Suspicious of what? Sorry I'm not following. Are you saying that they are suspicious of her and this is making them not say anything? I think that's pretty stupid... you don't have to approach her rudely. But you could just ask why she has a baby fucking dragon?

Unless some one explains this to me better or shows that I've clearly missed something this is striking me as a gaping hole in the story that hasn't really been thought out that well.


Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 13:37:48
April 13 2012 13:37 GMT
#7659
Do they even know she has dragons? I think if they did they would come and take them. What I reckon is that those who know about the dragons are the ones who stayed with her before she went into the fire. Everybody else left before that.
Sandtrout
Profile Joined July 2011
243 Posts
April 13 2012 13:45 GMT
#7660
On April 13 2012 15:25 nennx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 14:32 BlindKill wrote:
Im one of those that read the books and then watched the movie. From a non-readers perspective I would have no fucking clue whats happening in episode 1 of season 2 seriously..... That old guy cheers the red lady and dies o.O? and also the burning of the wooden statues too. I think the show is really trying to rush through this season for some reason... should slow down and explain the plots clearer.


he puts something in the drink to poison them both, its shown in the show

the statues thing is kind of random seeming though


Even that scene gets a lot clearer in the second episode (in the short dialogue between Stannis and Melisandre).
I actually like the fact that so much is going on at the same time. When I watch for the first time, I get the basic plot. And then I can watch again and again and find new details which give me more insight on the story, the characters etc. Also GOT isn't a show that you can watch while doing sth else and not really concentrating, it's something that you have to pay attention to.
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