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pred470r
Bulgaria3265 Posts
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On April 10 2012 13:13 LilClinkin wrote: Sorry but season1 focused mainly on the Lannister/Stark conflict. From here on out, the scope of the plot expands drastically, as every royal house in the seven kingdoms is seeking to capitalize on the political instability caused by Ned's execution and the accusations that Joffrey is bastard born. That is why you're introduced to Stannis in ep1 and Balon in ep2, and in ep3 I suspect you will also be introduced to Renly. These are not side-plots. They are integral to the over-arching story and theme of the show/books. Then why the fuck do we get 10 mins inside the brothel ? I couldn't give a fuck about who the whores are fucking honestly, or why the bitch is crying. However the scenes with Tyron Lannister were fucking brilliant. And we only get 3 mins of Daenarys, we didn't even see the dragons  | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On April 10 2012 22:16 Nizaris wrote: Then why the fuck do we get 10 mins inside the brothel ? I couldn't give a fuck about who the whores are fucking honestly, or why the bitch is crying. However the scenes with Tyron Lannister were fucking brilliant. And we only get 3 mins of Daenarys, we didn't even see the dragons Because that scene is supposed to show you Littlefinger way of thinking and doing stuff not the whores. And I guess 10s of dragons costs more then 5 min of Roz naked :D | ||
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Emix_Squall
France705 Posts
We're on a thread about a medieval fantastic drama show and people are complaining that the amount of sex scenes is making them uncomfortable. Seriously people we're going 5 steps backwards as far as general opinion about nerds is concerned. It totally makes sense that so much sex scenes would be included in such a story. I haven't read the book and I don't know if they are that important in there, but as far as visualizing this kind of world is concerned, it wouldn't seem realistic at all without that. In fact I'm surprised we didn't saw more of it in the first season considering the emphasis the season put on strong female characters (sex is undeniably a major leverage in every relationship). | ||
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crappen
Norway1546 Posts
On April 10 2012 23:09 Emix_Squall wrote: Stereotypes are having a hard time .... We're on a thread about a medieval fantastic drama show and people are complaining that the amount of sex scenes is making them uncomfortable. Seriously people we're going 5 steps backwards as far as general opinion about nerds is concerned. It totally makes sense that so much sex scenes would be included in such a story. I haven't read the book and I don't know if they are that important in there, but as far as visualizing this kind of world is concerned, it wouldn't seem realistic at all without that. In fact I'm surprised we didn't saw more of it in the first season considering the emphasis the season put on strong female characters (sex is undeniably a major leverage in every relationship). Agree with you, but also, the sexscenes are really bad. Maybe they are ment to be bad, + Show Spoiler + cause Stannis had some pretty emotional sex himself. Not sure if it's only cause he wanted a son or what. | ||
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Emix_Squall
France705 Posts
On April 10 2012 23:23 crappen wrote: Agree with you, but also, the sexscenes are really bad. Maybe they are ment to be bad, + Show Spoiler + cause Stannis had some pretty emotional sex himself. Not sure if it's only cause he wanted a son or what. He kinda turns into a rapist at the end of that scene by the way ... I mean the way he looks at Melisandre and acts after she whispered at his ear is very .... let's say beastly ... | ||
zatic
Zurich15362 Posts
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Hoban
United States1600 Posts
On April 10 2012 23:27 Emix_Squall wrote: He kinda turns into a rapist at the end of that scene by the way ... I mean the way he looks at Melisandre and acts after she whispered at his ear is very .... let's say beastly ... I'm pretty sure she really really really wanted to have his babies. Imagine you are Stannis, you have had a wife forever who gave you no kids, and this super hot witch-lady promised you an heir and throws off her garments. I am pretty sure you would look a little ferocious to as you jumped her on top of the war-table. | ||
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On April 10 2012 23:38 zatic wrote: Stop spoilering stuff that has already been aired please. Huh? What are we supposed to talk about in here then? | ||
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RCMDVA
United States708 Posts
Was Melesandre supposed to drink first? Then Cressen drinks second & dies? The way I saw it... Cressen drinks first and is hemmoraging instantly... then as Melesandre drinks as blood is coming out of his nose. That dosen't make sense. (aside from the fact Davos almost yells at the table "Don't do it bro!" at the start of the scene) Or am I missing something? | ||
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chroniX
517 Posts
On April 11 2012 00:00 RCMDVA wrote: I watched the Maester Cressen/Melsandre poisiong scene a couple times. I'm either I'm just dense or that scene didn't flow too well. Was Melesandre supposed to drink first? Then Cressen drinks second & dies? The way I saw it... Cressen drinks first and is hemmoraging instantly... then as Melesandre drinks as blood is coming out of his nose. That dosen't make sense. Or am I missing something? Yea something went wrong during this scene. I found the way he put the poison into the drink hilarious aswell. SO obvious haha! | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On April 11 2012 00:00 RCMDVA wrote: I watched the Maester Cressen/Melsandre poisiong scene a couple times. I'm either I'm just dense or that scene didn't flow too well. Was Melesandre supposed to drink first? Then Cressen drinks second & dies? The way I saw it... Cressen drinks first and is hemmoraging instantly... then as Melesandre drinks as blood is coming out of his nose. That dosen't make sense. Or am I missing something? She drinks knowing that it won't harm her. It is the first inclination you get that she has some sort of magical power. Cressen was trying to poison both of them, figuring that he was old and it wouldn't matter if he died as long as Stannis was spared from her influence. | ||
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ZeroCartin
Costa Rica2390 Posts
On April 11 2012 00:00 RCMDVA wrote: I watched the Maester Cressen/Melsandre poisiong scene a couple times. I'm either I'm just dense or that scene didn't flow too well. Was Melesandre supposed to drink first? Then Cressen drinks second & dies? The way I saw it... Cressen drinks first and is hemmoraging instantly... then as Melesandre drinks as blood is coming out of his nose. That dosen't make sense. (aside from the fact Davos at the almost yells at the table "Don't do it bro!" at the start of the scene) Or am I missing something? I think its either A) He drank it not knowing it was poison since Melesandre switched cups before. B) Both cups were poisoned. Melesandre knew it all along, but she is not afraid of dying. She is some kind of witch with super powers and can not die to poison. Cressen drank it in order to give confidence to Melesandre and sacrifice himself. | ||
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pred470r
Bulgaria3265 Posts
On April 10 2012 23:52 Zorkmid wrote: Huh? What are we supposed to talk about in here then? He means to say that people don't have to put stuff that was aired in spoilers. | ||
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Emix_Squall
France705 Posts
On April 10 2012 23:52 Zorkmid wrote: Huh? What are we supposed to talk about in here then? In think he was talking about putting spoiler banners when talking about already aired content. Of course we can talk about what's been aired ^^ As far as the scen with Melisandre and Cressen is concerned, I think he wanted to suicide, hoping he would take her with him. But she clearly saw trough his game, let him drink and waited enough to make us think she wouldn't drink at all. But than, when he's obviously started to bleed, and she's obviously noticed it, she still drinks the glass as a provocation to show him it doesn't affect her. Considering the word she spoke to Davos' son in episode 2, I'm starting to think of her as a true Targaryen like Daenaerys. Poison doesn't affect her as she as fire burning trough her veins (or something like that) and she made some other references to fire. | ||
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Magus
Canada450 Posts
On April 11 2012 00:05 ZeroCartin wrote: I think its either A) He drank it not knowing it was poison since Melesandre switched cups before. B) Both cups were poisoned. Melesandre knew it all along, but she is not afraid of dying. She is some kind of witch with super powers and can not die to poison. Cressen drank it in order to give confidence to Melesandre and sacrifice himself. Order of Events! -He drinks to prove it's not poison, then offers her the glass -She waits until he starts hemorrhaging and then drinks it KNOWING it's poison to prove it won't hurt her -He dies, and she doesn't | ||
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Butcherski
Poland446 Posts
Waiting two weeks for the next episode is horrible | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22103 Posts
Cressen is willing to die to save Stannis from her influence and knows he will only get her to drink if he drinks himself. Melisandre knows that it is poison but drinks anyway because the lord of light protects her. Yet to get the second point across the viewer has to know that Melisandre knows about the poison. Hence the bleeding infront of her, its the way the show convinced the viewer Melisandre sees through it but isnt afraid. | ||
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kingcoyote
United States546 Posts
On April 10 2012 23:52 Zorkmid wrote: Huh? What are we supposed to talk about in here then? He means stop putting spoiler tags around stuff that has been aired. If it's already been aired, then you don't need to mark it as a spoiler (like the line above me about Stannis and Melisandre's sex scene). | ||
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lannisport
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