EPTAlso Daenarys and Jon Snow meet up hype.
I do wish they stop don't continue the disgusting video montage streak. It's been 2 episodes now i wanna eat while watching and not get discouraged.
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goody153
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Also Daenarys and Jon Snow meet up hype. I do wish they stop don't continue the disgusting video montage streak. It's been 2 episodes now i wanna eat while watching and not get discouraged. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Overall it was another ok episode i think, not better and not worse. | ||
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
I expect the last remaining sandsnake + Ellaria will be brutally tortured and killed by Cersei in the upcoming episodes, cant wait! | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22372 Posts
Tho the edges of the fleet should have given warning and dragged the start of the scene a bit longer, instead of Euron being in the middle of the fleet when the first alarm comes. Something tells me Arya will keep riding north, arriving just in time to stab Littlefinger as he makes a grab for Sansa. He kinda has to make his move before John gets back. | ||
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Mensol
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VHbb
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That's maybe the one part I felt a bit underwhelming: I don't remember if we already saw this type of weapons before but I would have guessed they should be already known no? Maybe not ... but they still don't look *that* threatening compared to dragons  Btw - do we know how Aegon's dragons were defeated? | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
On July 24 2017 21:45 VHbb wrote: What do you think of the "revelation" of the bolt thrower as final weapon to kill the dragons? That's maybe the one part I felt a bit underwhelming: I don't remember if we already saw this type of weapons before but I would have guessed they should be already known no? Maybe not ... but they still don't look *that* threatening compared to dragons Btw - do we know how Aegon's dragons were defeated? Looking at the final battle, I got the impression there were numerous flaming bolts being shot betweenthese ships. TBF given the technical standards we have seen so far, I would imagine bolt throwers are something that should not come as a complete surprise to Dany. But I guess the way it is set up, that might be what the writers want us to believe nevertheless. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On July 24 2017 21:45 VHbb wrote: What do you think of the "revelation" of the bolt thrower as final weapon to kill the dragons? That's maybe the one part I felt a bit underwhelming: I don't remember if we already saw this type of weapons before but I would have guessed they should be already known no? Maybe not ... but they still don't look *that* threatening compared to dragons Feels like an understaffed underfunded engineering department that is ordered by marketing and the board to find a solution in a unrealistic timeframe. So they dug up a siege weapon they already had, made it look shiny and presented it to the board as a great new solution. They even relaxed testing requirements from 'shoot a flying dragon' to 'shoot a stationary bone' to meat the deadline  Meanwhile Euron from some underdeveloped shithole is hurling flaming boulders for hundreds of metersThe slaver guys boats also had the sickest siege weapons when attacking Mireen I think. So necromancer dude is just slacking on the job. I thought he was going to resurrect the bones lich king style lol | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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Dante08
Singapore4156 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
On July 24 2017 12:55 Noocta wrote: The final battle kinda happened out of nowhere to me. How did Euron even find them on the sea like that. :o Actually this is probably the one thing that makes the most sense. Just to remind everyone, Dragonstone (which is where Dany is right now) is literally only a couple miles off the coast of Kings Landing. You can actually swim there if you're good enough. What makes no sense is how Euron did not run into Dany's fleet sooner than this considering that he sailed to King's landing and back. Also this brings up another logistical nightmare. Let me get this straight: Dany wants the Tyrells and Martells to attack King's Landing while the Unsullied and Dothraki attack Casterly Rock. This is so mindbogglingly stupid that it's actually amazing. Think about it like this: the Reach is right next to the Westerlands (they share a border) and Dorne is below the Reach... so instead of having these two armies attack Casterly Rock they have them march all the way up to King's Landing to attack the city which would take months. Also, instead of attacking King's Landing with the Unsullied and Dothraki, which are on Dragonstone (which is ridiculously close), Dany will have her armies sail AROUND WESTEROS to the other side to attack Casterly Rock. Or even worse, Dany would have them land right next to King's Landing and have them march through the Crownlands all the way to the Westerlands. I get that it's the show and the plot demands that Dany can't roast Cersei alive with her dragon because of "morals" but holy fucking christ is this terrible writing. I refuse to believe that this is what GRRM had in mind. The show writers probably did not even bother to consult him when they wrote this abomination. | ||
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way2mash4u
Germany183 Posts
Dornish forces can still march. There's still Martells at Sunspear, right? Parading Ellaria around King's Landing will just infuriate them more. Paxter Redwyne is still out there, somewhere, too. Book and show clusterfuck confuses me. edit: Also, yeah. What was said above me. | ||
KwarK
United States43989 Posts
Problem solved imo. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On July 24 2017 23:14 Hyperbola wrote: Actually this is probably the one thing that makes the most sense. Just to remind everyone, Dragonstone (which is where Dany is right now) is literally only a couple miles off the coast of Kings Landing. You can actually swim there if you're good enough. What makes no sense is how Euron did not run into Dany's fleet sooner than this considering that he sailed to King's landing and back. It doesn't make sense at all really. There's no way Euron sailed with the intent to attack Dany's entire fleet because he'd be an idiot to attack three dragons while on boats. There's like one of two possibilities: 1. Euron left for the open seas before Dany ever came up with the idea to send ships south to Dorne and was doing uh something there. Somehow he managed to slip past dragonstone unseen then just happened to be in the right spot to intercept Asha's fleet without being seen (despite being on a massive ship that would be impossible to miss). 2. Euron left after Asha headed out in which case Euron slipped past dragonstone unseen, caught up to Asha's ships despite not knowing where they were going, and somehow did this without being spotted by Asha. I think it would have worked way better if there was at least any attempt to make the situation plausible. Plus it just went from bad to worse, by the shows just killing off characters because they couldn't figure out how to write them AND we're stuck with "A greyjoy has been captured" again which has pretty much been the defining characteristic of that house for the entire show. I didn't care for the episode to be honest; I feel like there was a lot of reasonable options the characters could have done. John Snow could have just sent an emissary and been like "Look we're trying to fight the undead here" rather than the dumb decision to leave someone with no leadership or military experience in charge. I get that it's a pretty critical bit of diplomacy, but it's not exactly like he has a particularly stable kingdom/alliance. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 24 2017 22:01 Mafe wrote: Looking at the final battle, I got the impression there were numerous flaming bolts being shot betweenthese ships. TBF given the technical standards we have seen so far, I would imagine bolt throwers are something that should not come as a complete surprise to Dany. But I guess the way it is set up, that might be what the writers want us to believe nevertheless. The super powerful napalm arrows are my favorite part of season 7 of Game of Thrones. Previous contender was full blown bastard sword fights inside inns with very high ceilings, which peaked at season 4 with the epic battle of many with tiny knives vs man with very long sword. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On July 24 2017 23:48 Plansix wrote: The super powerful napalm arrows are my favorite part of season 7 of Game of Thrones. Previous contender was full blown bastard sword fights inside inns with very high ceilings, which peaked at season 4 with the epic battle of many with tiny knives vs man with very long sword. I still think that my favorite is according to the show the kingdom whose entire military is based on ships has been sitting on a goldmine of shipbuilding speed, materials, and crew this whole time even though they recently had an open rebellion against the kingdom. I guess it never occurred to them during that rebellion that "hey maybe we should make more ships". | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
On July 24 2017 23:14 Hyperbola wrote: Just to remind everyone, Dragonstone (which is where Dany is right now) is literally only a couple miles off the coast of Kings Landing. You can actually swim there if you're good enough. . that's so wrong... there is no exact distance, but look how far is Harrenhal, and it should give you an idea | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 24 2017 23:54 Logo wrote: I still think that my favorite is according to the show the kingdom whose entire military is based on ships has been sitting on a goldmine of shipbuilding speed, materials, and crew this whole time even though they recently had an open rebellion against the kingdom. I guess it never occurred to them during that rebellion that "hey maybe we should make more ships". I bet the creators have been dreading the Iron Isle since season. There are production people crying saying "at some point we need to do combat on fucking boats on a TV budget. This is worse than finding a creative way for man on foot to beat man on horse. Can we go back to trial by combat?" As for sneaking up on the fleet, ship based combat was real until people invented the cannon. Sneaking up on a docked fleet and burning it is a time honored tactic. Maybe dragons can't fight at night. Most birds can't fly at night. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
As for sneaking up on the fleet, ship based combat was real until people invented the cannon. Sneaking up on a docked fleet and burning it is a time honored tactic. Yeah but Asha's ships weren't docked and the mechanics of who would know what about the fleet and its movements don't really work out and there's no explanation given. Also Varys should be beheaded if he knew nothing of the fleet considering it's sailed all the way around Westeros, docked at King's Landing, and left King's landing. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On July 24 2017 23:14 Hyperbola wrote: Actually this is probably the one thing that makes the most sense. Just to remind everyone, Dragonstone (which is where Dany is right now) is literally only a couple miles off the coast of Kings Landing. You can actually swim there if you're good enough. What makes no sense is how Euron did not run into Dany's fleet sooner than this considering that he sailed to King's landing and back. Also this brings up another logistical nightmare. Let me get this straight: Dany wants the Tyrells and Martells to attack King's Landing while the Unsullied and Dothraki attack Casterly Rock. This is so mindbogglingly stupid that it's actually amazing. Think about it like this: the Reach is right next to the Westerlands (they share a border) and Dorne is below the Reach... so instead of having these two armies attack Casterly Rock they have them march all the way up to King's Landing to attack the city which would take months. Also, instead of attacking King's Landing with the Unsullied and Dothraki, which are on Dragonstone (which is ridiculously close), Dany will have her armies sail AROUND WESTEROS to the other side to attack Casterly Rock. Or even worse, Dany would have them land right next to King's Landing and have them march through the Crownlands all the way to the Westerlands. I get that it's the show and the plot demands that Dany can't roast Cersei alive with her dragon because of "morals" but holy fucking christ is this terrible writing. I refuse to believe that this is what GRRM had in mind. The show writers probably did not even bother to consult him when they wrote this abomination. That was my problem, they literally sailed further in distance and up north just to visit a castle and talk just to sail down south again. | ||
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