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Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
July 17 2017 03:18 GMT
#32121
Stannis mentioned something about Dragonstone being full of obsidian. Even in today's scene he said 'Stannis said but I didn't think it important'. Which as stated is silly given that he acts surprised and its played as some huge discovery when Stannis had already told them.
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 03:28:14
July 17 2017 03:22 GMT
#32122
Ah, yes, now that you mentioned it I remember. I think he said he didn't believe him, but acting all surprised really doesn't make much sense.

They could've just made Jon say it, unless of course Stannis only told Sam. In any case, that is indeed sloppy.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
July 17 2017 03:33 GMT
#32123
Compared to the shit we got last season, this episode was really good.

Granted, I did not enjoy seeing Sam cleaning shit out of bedpans and the Freys' deaths were a bit cartoonish but everything else I really enjoyed.
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Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
July 17 2017 04:00 GMT
#32124
Well, I look forward to the dragons vs zombie giants fight.
Kind of plodding start, but Dany is home, and Bran is at the Wall. Those are exciting things.
Big water
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
July 17 2017 04:26 GMT
#32125
Despite some cliches, it was a good episode that set up big plot points nicely.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1201 Posts
July 17 2017 06:47 GMT
#32126
On July 17 2017 12:03 KwarK wrote:
Surely "there are good and bad people on every side and the majority of people are just caught up in shit beyond their control" doesn't need to be said in GoT. I mean it wasn't the worst part of the episode, it's just a symptom, but it was pretty glaring. We've got a lot of ground to cover and not much time to do it.


Compared to last season we have 55 less minutes. I think we will be fine. First episode really rushing into it would not have been great I think.

Numbers 495 vs 450 minutes
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Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
July 17 2017 09:53 GMT
#32127
On July 17 2017 12:03 KwarK wrote:
Surely "there are good and bad people on every side and the majority of people are just caught up in shit beyond their control" doesn't need to be said in GoT. I mean it wasn't the worst part of the episode, it's just a symptom, but it was pretty glaring. We've got a lot of ground to cover and not much time to do it.


I think it might be important for Arya's character arc, to see that not all Lannister soldiers are bad so she doesn't have to kill all of them
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 10:07:16
July 17 2017 10:06 GMT
#32128
Exactly. She has only ever seen lannister soldiers so far as the faceless evil chasing her. Meeting some that are just people is quite important.


e: also 100% with hyberbola, that sam sequence was too long, come on guys, we got it after the few first repeats. Don't need to see him clean up shit that long.
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
July 17 2017 11:10 GMT
#32129
Some said the episode was boring. It's just that there's always calm before the storm. What got me thinking the most is that Jon appears in the trailer together with The Hound, Beric and Tormund, seemingly fighting the white walkers or something. So either Jon left winterfell with Sansa or Sansa convinced him that he should not rule, either way she will propably make some move to get more influence/power.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4182 Posts
July 17 2017 11:15 GMT
#32130
FUCKKK yesss Game of Thrones is back. Something to get by the Monday blues!
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
July 17 2017 12:09 GMT
#32131
Good episode to get the pieces all in order though admittedly I was hoping for some kind of big pop to start the season. Ed Sheeran broke the wall hard and I think that was a poor decision for a good scene.
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 14:48:17
July 17 2017 12:14 GMT
#32132
I liked the episode except the last part in Dragonstone when everybody remained silent, that felt a bit odd to me. I get that they wanted to pay respect to the place and not take away from the beautiful scenery, or perhaps they are showing us a change in Danny's character: it seemed to me that she doesnt really give a fuck about making it her "home" and simply sees it as a launching pad for her conquest, which seems to be the case because after a long trip she went directly to the map and without wasting any time she just wants to get on with it. Also the castle was empty ... that was pretty weird too.

What left me puzzled the most is the precious gift that Euron intends to get Cersei. His reply to Cersei about killing his own brother was priceless since she also wants her little brother dead.

mod edit: pretty sure that's book only, book only = don't post, not post in spoilers

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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22607 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 14:48:34
July 17 2017 12:17 GMT
#32133
On July 17 2017 20:10 Pontual wrote:
Some said the episode was boring. It's just that there's always calm before the storm. What got me thinking the most is that Jon appears in the trailer together with The Hound, Beric and Tormund, seemingly fighting the white walkers or something. So either Jon left winterfell with Sansa or Sansa convinced him that he should not rule, either way she will propably make some move to get more influence/power.

I would assume that once the dead get close to the wall that the Northerns move that way, no point feeding yourself piecemeal to an army that raises the dead, so John showing up at the wall again is to be expected.

And this episode set up for the rest of those you mentioned being there aswell.

On July 17 2017 21:14 FreakyDroid wrote:
I liked the episode except the last part in Dragonstone when everybody remained silent, that felt a bit odd to me. I get that they wanted to pay respect to the place and not take away from the beautiful scenery, or perhaps they are showing us a change in Danny's character: it seemed to me that she doesnt really give a fuck about making it her "home" and simply sees it as a launching pad for her conquest, which seems to be the case because after a long trip she went directly to the map and without wasting any time she just wants to get on with it. Also the castle was empty ... that was pretty weird too.

What left me puzzled the most is the precious gift that Euron intends to get Cersei. His reply to Cersei about killing his own brother was priceless since she also wants her little brother dead.

Dany touching the sand, The pause at the gate and the throne. I assume those were all intended to give the idea that she certainly gives a fuck about being home.
But she is a pragmatic person and that shows with the 'Shall we begin' at the end. No point sitting about being sentimental for longer then necessary.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
July 17 2017 12:31 GMT
#32134
On July 17 2017 21:17 Gorsameth wrote:
Dany touching the sand, The pause at the gate and the throne. I assume those were all intended to give the idea that she certainly gives a fuck about being home.
But she is a pragmatic person and that shows with the 'Shall we begin' at the end. No point sitting about being sentimental for longer then necessary.


Maybe you're right, but those couple of moments you mentioned were devoid of any emotion, so to me it felt like she paid respect to the place rather than "feeling home" so to speak. But again, Danny doesn't display too many emotions in general and perhaps what you're saying is true.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 14:48:46
July 17 2017 12:56 GMT
#32135
On July 17 2017 21:14 FreakyDroid wrote:
I liked the episode except the last part in Dragonstone when everybody remained silent, that felt a bit odd to me. I get that they wanted to pay respect to the place and not take away from the beautiful scenery, or perhaps they are showing us a change in Danny's character: it seemed to me that she doesnt really give a fuck about making it her "home" and simply sees it as a launching pad for her conquest, which seems to be the case because after a long trip she went directly to the map and without wasting any time she just wants to get on with it. Also the castle was empty ... that was pretty weird too.

What left me puzzled the most is the precious gift that Euron intends to get Cersei. His reply to Cersei about killing his own brother was priceless since she also wants her little brother dead.

Well we waited 6 whole seasons for Dani to reach Westeros, so I don't think a 5 minute scene of her finally arriving in her rightful home is unwarranted. Also the scenery was amazing.

But they should've at least had a scene of Grey Worm saying they cleared out the tiny occupants guard or something, it being empty makes no sense.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 13:00:00
July 17 2017 12:59 GMT
#32136
Episode was almost all exposition, but I thought it was doing that quite well.
I like when things are done a little slower.
Off-season = best season
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 14:49:01
July 17 2017 13:00 GMT
#32137
On July 17 2017 21:56 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
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On July 17 2017 21:14 FreakyDroid wrote:
I liked the episode except the last part in Dragonstone when everybody remained silent, that felt a bit odd to me. I get that they wanted to pay respect to the place and not take away from the beautiful scenery, or perhaps they are showing us a change in Danny's character: it seemed to me that she doesnt really give a fuck about making it her "home" and simply sees it as a launching pad for her conquest, which seems to be the case because after a long trip she went directly to the map and without wasting any time she just wants to get on with it. Also the castle was empty ... that was pretty weird too.

What left me puzzled the most is the precious gift that Euron intends to get Cersei. His reply to Cersei about killing his own brother was priceless since she also wants her little brother dead.

Well we waited 6 whole seasons for Dani to reach Westeros, so I don't think a 5 minute scene of her finally arriving in her rightful home is unwarranted. Also the scenery was amazing.

But they should've at least had a scene of Grey Worm saying they cleared out the tiny occupants guard or something, it being empty makes no sense.

Giving the extreme benefit of the doubt, they saw the fleet and fled? I'm just playing devils advocate, I'm with you on a minor line to just say we've secured the castle.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18869 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 13:04:35
July 17 2017 13:02 GMT
#32138
I can't wait to see what kind of last ditch, give it all for my queen type shit Jorah ends up doing Maybe he'll become some sort of golem and fight as D's champ against the Mountain. Though I had sorta pinned the Hound as that role, his fire priest stuff renders that unlikely.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2610 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 14:51:45
July 17 2017 13:07 GMT
#32139
I agree that some sequences were too long (Sam cleaning up shit, Arya with the Lannister soldiers, Dany arriving at Dragonstone), but overall I think it was a good first episode.

I am also curious what Euron's gift to Cersei will be.

Arya heading to King's Landing is also suprising to me. Riverlands aren't that far away from Winterfell and even her as lone wolf should have heard the Stark's took over Winterfell again. I mean she is on her revenge trip, but I guessed she would make a quick stop at Winterfell, after all she is "Arya of the House Stark" again after being Nobody for so long.

Overall I would rate this episode with a solid 7/10, but I hope they step it up in the next episodes.

BTW I really dislike the decision to give Ed Sheeran a cameo, feels odd and misplaced in a series like Game of Thrones and certainly I did not need that, but maybe other people see that differently.

Edit:
Reading farvacola's post, I hope to see a nice ending to Jorah. Him sitting in a prison cell in Oldtown seems to make that pretty unlikely though. Sure he might be cured there, but it is a desperate move from him to go to Oldtown. At least it seems to me like it. He did not find any cure and Oldtown was probably the only way out...

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Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
July 17 2017 13:17 GMT
#32140
Great first episode, not sure how i felt about the ed sheeran cameo though lmao.
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