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B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
July 13 2016 07:51 GMT
#31781
A lot of people feel that America is a bit over the top when it comes to political correctness and find it unpleasant if they feel someone is trying to "force" that way of thinking on them as well.
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
July 13 2016 11:22 GMT
#31782
Do all the people in Westeros think that Cersei killed her son to get the throne? I think I would.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
July 13 2016 11:31 GMT
#31783
On July 13 2016 20:22 Garbels wrote:
Do all the people in Westeros think that Cersei killed her son to get the throne? I think I would.

Well, they certainly think she killed the pope, the queen, the queen's family, her own family except Jamie, most of the religious elite, the grand maester, and possibly hundreds if not thousands civilians.

I think they have enough reason to hate her even if they don't think she killed the king as well.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 13 2016 11:33 GMT
#31784
On July 13 2016 20:31 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 20:22 Garbels wrote:
Do all the people in Westeros think that Cersei killed her son to get the throne? I think I would.

Well, they certainly think she killed the pope, the queen, the queen's family, her own family except Jamie, most of the religious elite, the grand maester, and possibly hundreds if not thousands civilians.

I think they have enough reason to hate her even if they don't think she killed the king as well.


Do they, though? The show has already shown repeatedly that they ale willing to consider a somewhat realistic description of a "non-information" society, where information just doesn't spread very well and people don't really have a good idea of what's happening.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
July 13 2016 14:52 GMT
#31785
On July 13 2016 20:31 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 20:22 Garbels wrote:
Do all the people in Westeros think that Cersei killed her son to get the throne? I think I would.

Well, they certainly think she killed the pope, the queen, the queen's family, her own family except Jamie, most of the religious elite, the grand maester, and possibly hundreds if not thousands civilians.

I think they have enough reason to hate her even if they don't think she killed the king as well.

Killing enemies is understandable, even expected. Killing your son is evil/crazy.
Jamie 'knows' she would never do that. But can he be sure? Can he withstand the whispers?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-13 18:06:52
July 13 2016 18:05 GMT
#31786
On July 13 2016 20:33 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 20:31 zatic wrote:
On July 13 2016 20:22 Garbels wrote:
Do all the people in Westeros think that Cersei killed her son to get the throne? I think I would.

Well, they certainly think she killed the pope, the queen, the queen's family, her own family except Jamie, most of the religious elite, the grand maester, and possibly hundreds if not thousands civilians.

I think they have enough reason to hate her even if they don't think she killed the king as well.


Do they, though? The show has already shown repeatedly that they ale willing to consider a somewhat realistic description of a "non-information" society, where information just doesn't spread very well and people don't really have a good idea of what's happening.


There were already rumors of Jaime/Cersei in the city streets when Tyrion was hand of the king. So there was information getting to the society.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
July 13 2016 18:22 GMT
#31787
On July 13 2016 20:22 Garbels wrote:
Do all the people in Westeros think that Cersei killed her son to get the throne? I think I would.


Well he kind of suicided. She killed him indirectly of course, but as far as the people of Westeros know, he killed himself.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
July 13 2016 18:28 GMT
#31788
On July 14 2016 03:22 FreakyDroid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 20:22 Garbels wrote:
Do all the people in Westeros think that Cersei killed her son to get the throne? I think I would.


Well he kind of suicided. She killed him indirectly of course, but as far as the people of Westeros know, he killed himself.

Do they know that though?

We have no idea what Cersei told them.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
July 13 2016 19:52 GMT
#31789
As a king he has people outside the room watching over him, they can probably confirm no one entered it, which will lead to the logical conclusion that he committed suicide.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43991 Posts
July 13 2016 19:56 GMT
#31790
On July 14 2016 04:52 FreakyDroid wrote:
As a king he has people outside the room watching over him, they can probably confirm no one entered it, which will lead to the logical conclusion that he committed suicide.

The people who would claim that he jumped are the same as those who are accused of pushing him. People will believe whatever they want to believe about his death. If I was told Cersei had him thrown out by zombie Clegane I wouldn't change my mind if Clegane said that he jumped.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
July 13 2016 20:34 GMT
#31791
I think its a baseless assumption that people believe Cersei killed him. None of that was even hinted on the show. The whole point of her becoming the Queen by eliminating all her enemies was to show that in that process she also eliminated the only thing which mattered to her and that was Tommen. Thats the price she pays to be the Queen. How and why Tommen was killed, is completely besides the point.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-13 20:40:09
July 13 2016 20:37 GMT
#31792
Judging by the look of Jamie at the end of the episode, he probably does.

Also makes the whole Fortune teller thing become more relevant.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
July 13 2016 20:53 GMT
#31793
On July 14 2016 03:05 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 20:33 opisska wrote:
On July 13 2016 20:31 zatic wrote:
On July 13 2016 20:22 Garbels wrote:
Do all the people in Westeros think that Cersei killed her son to get the throne? I think I would.

Well, they certainly think she killed the pope, the queen, the queen's family, her own family except Jamie, most of the religious elite, the grand maester, and possibly hundreds if not thousands civilians.

I think they have enough reason to hate her even if they don't think she killed the king as well.


Do they, though? The show has already shown repeatedly that they ale willing to consider a somewhat realistic description of a "non-information" society, where information just doesn't spread very well and people don't really have a good idea of what's happening.


There were already rumors of Jaime/Cersei in the city streets when Tyrion was hand of the king. So there was information getting to the society.


My experience with my parents' generation and their friends shows me that information can travel very fast even without the use of technology. That the information is of very questionable accuracy doesn't matter since the rumors are likely to be unflattering towards Cersei.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9173 Posts
July 14 2016 00:06 GMT
#31794
On July 14 2016 05:37 Reaps wrote:
Judging by the look of Jamie at the end of the episode, he probably does.

For me, the look is simply because of the atrocity she performed (like do I really know this person?), combined with fear for what she has become (the danger it puts her in). He also knows she indirectly killed Tommen, by wiping out much of what he loved and believed in. There is no way he believes she directly killed him. However, he would definitely blame her for not considering the impact on Tommen.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
July 14 2016 07:59 GMT
#31795
When Cersei is being crowned queen, just look at the commoners stares. They don't look happy or even ok with it, they just hate her guts.
Revolutionist fan
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1482 Posts
July 14 2016 11:52 GMT
#31796
When I was watching the last episode I was thinking to myself:
Tommen plays Assasins Creed.
Cercei plays Dungeoun Keeper.
Arya plays Dishonored.
Tyrells, the faith and Kevan Lannister got Just Caused.
Gendry plays Splinter Cell.
White walkers play Warhammer Dark Omen.
Jon Snow ... the witcher?

Leaving Dany out of this because I dont really have anything even remotely close to it.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 12:52:39
July 14 2016 12:42 GMT
#31797
On July 14 2016 09:06 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 05:37 Reaps wrote:
Judging by the look of Jamie at the end of the episode, he probably does.

For me, the look is simply because of the atrocity she performed (like do I really know this person?), combined with fear for what she has become (the danger it puts her in). He also knows she indirectly killed Tommen, by wiping out much of what he loved and believed in. There is no way he believes she directly killed him. However, he would definitely blame her for not considering the impact on Tommen.


That was my take on the scene as well. The ramifications of what she did and how the people as well as the big houses of Westeros and especially Jamie perceive he whole situation is probably my most anticipated storyline for next season.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-18 17:10:54
July 18 2016 17:10 GMT
#31798
HBO has just released their plans for season seven of Game of Thrones. It is now official that the episode count for next year stands at seven episodes. The filming is slated for “later this summer.”

Next season to premier in summer instead of spring
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B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
July 18 2016 17:28 GMT
#31799
So many plotlines, so many things left untold or wrapped up very hastily. I honestly can't believe it. People were already complaining about a lack of episodes when there were 10.

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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2727 Posts
July 18 2016 17:36 GMT
#31800
Yeah, I don't think they can close all the serie plots in just the remaining 13 episodes.
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