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Elizar
Germany431 Posts
On June 01 2015 17:21 SkelA wrote: Best episode of the season and an added bonus was no Dorne scenes. Reading this a questions comes to my mind: I always thought the intro shows the different places the current episode will take place. I rmember dorne was in it, yet there were no scenes in the episode. Am I missing sth.? | ||
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Vesimias
Finland135 Posts
I was so sure that Jon was going to die this episode when Sam said that he always comes back. Thank god I was wrong. The Valyrian steel reveal was also epic. Literally yelled out loud when that happened. The whole fight was well done, with the tension and everything. Watching Cercei suffer did make me smile as well. That bitch can suffer all day, Now my theory for the end is Jon, Brienne and whoever wields Widow's Wail ride Dany's dragons and fight the army of the Dead, while Stannis sits on the throne eating apples. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On June 01 2015 17:27 Fi0na wrote: In my humble opinion the timing was way too convenient in this episode. Get there, talk a bit, oh and randomly the white walker army appears at that exact moment. Like, really? Felt like watching sand snakes 2.0, but this time with a giant to make it less cheesy and more amusing. The timing makes sense to me. It's more likely the white walkers were just biding their time (they can wait aeons after all) as they've done from the start, building up their army without costly confrontations. Why waste meat when the wildlings were trapped with no food and winter coming? The arrival and loading of the boats precipitated the attack. | ||
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illsick
United States1770 Posts
On June 01 2015 17:27 Fi0na wrote: In my humble opinion the timing was way too convenient in this episode. Get there, talk a bit, oh and randomly the white walker army appears at that exact moment. Like, really? Felt like watching sand snakes 2.0, but this time with a giant to make it less cheesy and more amusing. I was talking more of the quality of the scene. The scene was move-esque. With the sand arc, it was just cheesy lines, acting, and just silly (eg. whipping the bucket in the sand to reveal a person buried in the sand, etc). I can see your view on the scene being too convenient but how else are you going to show such an epic scene with the mass wildings, jon snow, and white walkers. I think you might not like the writings (based off books) rather than how the scene was done/directed. The quality of the scenes from the sand snake arc seemed low quality, in my opinion; while this last scene seemed epic and well done. The last 15 minutes of the episode had me at the edge of my seat. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9338 Posts
On June 01 2015 17:27 Fi0na wrote: In my humble opinion the timing was way too convenient in this episode. Get there, talk a bit, oh and randomly the white walker army appears at that exact moment. Like, really? Felt like watching sand snakes 2.0, but this time with a giant to make it less cheesy and more amusing. Its been like that alot this season... convenient timing. Gives it a less wild and unpredictable feel, a little bit more like traditional Hollywood storytelling. The zombie army/walkers were pretty cool though. | ||
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
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Vesimias
Finland135 Posts
Also this way the characters get a lot more development. Jon knows who the leader of the White walkers is, Valyrian steel kills them. The threat now has a proper face. If that stuff happened off screen, it would be mysterious sure, but frustratingly so. | ||
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Nesserev
Belgium2760 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9338 Posts
On June 01 2015 18:44 Vesimias wrote: How do you make that stuff exciting and cool without it being convenient though? Like really, there are a ton of convenience in fantasy stories. Like how did Gandalf happen to arrive with the army just in time to save everyone in the battle of Helm's Deep and not half an hour later and find them all dead? I think that's just unnecessary nitpicking, it's a fantasy story, cool shit happens at convenient times. Also this way the characters get a lot more development. Jon knows who the leader of the White walkers is, Valyrian steel kills them. The threat now has a proper face. If that stuff happened off screen, it would be mysterious sure, but frustratingly so. Its not nitpicking its a definite change from previous seasons. Maybe its changed more gradually as the show has gone on even. Everything in the first 2 seasons appeared to be quite inconveniently timed if anything, I think I was mostly annoyed about Jorah and Tyrion just happening across the Queen they had both been desperately searching for after being captured by slavers. Its just poor storytelling imo, and takes away the sense of hardship that being captured by slavers is supposed to convey. The zombie attack was just another example of that, but it works better in terms of the story. It feels like its become both rushed and too slow at the same time (which obviously doesn't make sense but its just how i feel about it). Maybe I am nitpicking, but I still love the show, I just don't think its as good as it once was. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21340 Posts
On June 01 2015 11:09 palexhur wrote: Very tense chapter btw, the best in the whole season so far, if the alive men dont have a weapon of mass destruction, it is going to be impossible to stop the white walkers. How does 3 dragons sound? The setup just feels so obvious. Danny arrives in Westeros as the Whitewalkers rampage past the wall and unites everyone to bring fiery death helped by Mellisandra. | ||
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Elizar
Germany431 Posts
On June 01 2015 19:53 Gorsameth wrote: How does 3 dragons sound? The setup just feels so obvious. Danny arrives in Westeros as the Whitewalkers rampage past the wall and unites everyone to bring fiery death helped by Mellisandra. Then again it is game of thrones. I mean, all the weddings, viper vs mountain, valeryan steel when dragonglass was the obvious answer ... The best thing in this show is its unpredictability. The obvious things do not always happen, right?  So just wait and see like I do. | ||
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Jandos
Czech Republic928 Posts
On June 01 2015 20:01 Elizar wrote: Then again it is game of thrones. I mean, all the weddings, viper vs mountain, valeryan steel when dragonglass was the obvious answer ... The best thing in this show is its unpredictability. The obvious things do not always happen, right? So just wait and see like I do. I think it is called song of ice and fire for a reason. Anything but big ice vs fire finale would not make much sense. | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
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Kyyuna
United States1222 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21340 Posts
On June 01 2015 20:29 Naphal wrote: i was so waiting for the whitewalker to create a path of ice so they could attack the ships and thought all the time why dont you row faster?! Hehe that was my initial thought aswell. | ||
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Ayush_SCtoss
India3050 Posts
FFS Tarly Tyrion back where he belongs, nice. Tyrion and Jorah, when rowing through Valyria, commented on how advanced Targaryen society was compared to the rest of the known world. And the one time you'd need them, well, they're dead. | ||
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