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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On May 06 2015 07:18 Hyperbola wrote: Hah you're acting as if that's the last leak ever. It's not. HBO will not be doing anymore press releases, so it's very unlikely that it'll happen again. | ||
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
On May 06 2015 07:37 Lord Tolkien wrote: HBO will not be doing anymore press releases, so it's very unlikely that it'll happen again. As if press releases are the only cause of leaks. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On May 06 2015 10:18 sumsaR wrote: As if press releases are the only cause of leaks. Don't act dumb. Most shows and movies don't get leaked, literally the only way for things to get leaked are someone gets their hands on a copy, which can be someone on their team or via press release. Considering that this leak likely cost HBO about 5 million viewers for the four episodes, you can expect this to not happen to GoT again. I'd give a ballpark estimate of 90-95% that there wont be another episode leak in GoT for the remainder of the series. | ||
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On May 06 2015 04:02 travis wrote: Even at the time, when Jaime's character was a little less multidimensional and more painted as just being a bad guy - I did not interpret it this way. I took it more as "holy shit, this guy is dangerous and unpredictable". Your analysis was awesome though. Yeah, that's a decent read. Also, thanks! | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24399 Posts
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Oshuy
Netherlands529 Posts
On May 06 2015 04:09 Mafe wrote: Is Lancel now the de-facto-heir to Lannisters and their properties/land? I understand Jaime is ineligible because he's a kingsguard, Cersei as woman will be overgone in favor of men (?), and while this might make Tommen the heir, I suspect he will rule as a king and name a "careholder" which should be the next person in the line, i.e. Lancels father and then Lancel himself. Not sure we know all the Lannisters (Robert said there were lots of them). If we know all, in a male line Jaime, then Tyrion, then Tywin's brother, then Lancel. Lancel probably swore all his earthly belongings off when he joined the latest sect though and Jaime already said he refused because he is in the kingsguard. Go Tyrion ! (well ... once the little matter of his killing Tywin and Joffrey gets cleared out, of course) If Tywin's brother dies, not sure what happens. Cersei probably takes control through Tommen ? | ||
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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zatic
Zurich15366 Posts
On May 06 2015 16:35 shin_toss wrote: There are probably more Lannisters in Casterly Rock that aren't mentioned yet? Still, unless they are unknown sons of Tywin (unlikely) the above is pretty much correct. Excluding the eventual marriage of Myrcella, it's Tommen over Kevan over (???), since none of the other Lanisters introduced so far are eligible to inherit. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22664 Posts
Cersie's kids are officially Baratheon's. Jamie is a Kingsguard Tyrion i would assume is disowned after killing his dad. | ||
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
On May 06 2015 10:48 FiWiFaKi wrote: Don't act dumb. Most shows and movies don't get leaked, literally the only way for things to get leaked are someone gets their hands on a copy, which can be someone on their team or via press release. Considering that this leak likely cost HBO about 5 million viewers for the four episodes, you can expect this to not happen to GoT again. I'd give a ballpark estimate of 90-95% that there wont be another episode leak in GoT for the remainder of the series. I was refering to all leaks of what will happen on the show, not just whole episodes. | ||
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zatic
Zurich15366 Posts
On May 06 2015 17:48 -Archangel- wrote: I don't think Tommen gets it, he is officially a Baratheon, not Lannister. Oh, right. So it's Kevan right now and unless there are other sons of his we don't know about after him it looks grim for the Lannister line of succession. | ||
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oGoZenob
France1503 Posts
On May 06 2015 16:21 Oshuy wrote: Not sure we know all the Lannisters (Robert said there were lots of them). If we know all, in a male line Jaime, then Tyrion, then Tywin's brother, then Lancel. Lancel probably swore all his earthly belongings off when he joined the latest sect though and Jaime already said he refused because he is in the kingsguard. Go Tyrion ! (well ... once the little matter of his killing Tywin and Joffrey gets cleared out, of course) If Tywin's brother dies, not sure what happens. Cersei probably takes control through Tommen ? Tyrion was stripped of his titles when he was convinced, so he has no rights anymore on the inheritance | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On May 06 2015 18:57 Shock710 wrote: what if tyrion ends up with danny (like on her side not withwith her) and then once shes ruler of everything can she give back the inheritance to tyrion? or does it not work like that, Stannis offered jon snow warden of the north and the stark name. A King can do anything they want if they can enforce it. If Dany attacks Westeros and wins she can do whatever she wants including giving Lannister lands to Tyrion or to a random peasant or to her pet monkey(if she gets one in the meantime :D). | ||
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oGoZenob
France1503 Posts
On May 06 2015 18:57 Shock710 wrote: what if tyrion ends up with danny (like on her side not withwith her) and then once shes ruler of everything can she give back the inheritance to tyrion? or does it not work like that, Stannis offered jon snow warden of the north and the stark name. well bastard can be legitimated with a single letter from the king/queen, so it's not that hard. But giving lands and titles requires a bit of politics and diplomacy, but nothing impossible for someone conquering a continent on dragon's back ^^ | ||
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On May 06 2015 18:19 zatic wrote: Oh, right. So it's Kevan right now and unless there are other sons of his we don't know about after him it looks grim for the Lannister line of succession. Yeah, I mean, I'm still a little confused by the way royal families work in this universe. Any real family can keep backing up generations to find more relatives, even if they have a different family name. Sometimes, as when the British had disqualified Catholic succession, you can jump to somebody who was 50-something on the list. But, barring bad bookkeeping, you should always be able to find someone. | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On May 06 2015 23:23 Yoav wrote: Yeah, I mean, I'm still a little confused by the way royal families work in this universe. Any real family can keep backing up generations to find more relatives, even if they have a different family name. Sometimes, as when the British had disqualified Catholic succession, you can jump to somebody who was 50-something on the list. But, barring bad bookkeeping, you should always be able to find someone. I'm sure they'd be able to find someone but when you go that deep on the succession list the claims get weaker and weaker and there are more and more people in a similar position as you. Even in the most stable systems this causes conflict and Westeros is anything but stable. Letting succession fall that far down the line is a surefire way to get another war in this universe. | ||
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On May 06 2015 23:38 ZasZ. wrote: I'm sure they'd be able to find someone but when you go that deep on the succession list the claims get weaker and weaker and there are more and more people in a similar position as you. Even in the most stable systems this causes conflict and Westeros is anything but stable. Letting succession fall that far down the line is a surefire way to get another war in this universe. Fair enough, but it's just odd to me that everyone's treating Sansa like she's the "last Stark" when surely there are dozens of them running around somewhere. | ||
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