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Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
June 02 2014 07:55 GMT
#24021
On June 02 2014 16:45 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 16:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 02 2014 16:35 Bowzar wrote:
On June 02 2014 16:08 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 02 2014 16:03 MaestroSC wrote:
On June 02 2014 15:54 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 02 2014 15:38 MaestroSC wrote:
Im going to write an incredibly successfull book series...

every single likeable character will die horrible deaths.

all of the villains will love forever, and rape the corpses of the dead heroes.

Then the villains will kill eachother..

the only thing left alive will be a 20 yr old sociopath who likes to rape the corpses animals/small children, and he will rule the entire world. It will be a huge success... since that is all it takes to become a successful fantasy author apparently.

i hate this show.


HOW was oberyn in the gray area? Because he wanted to kill the guy who raped/killed his sister, along with her children?

How is that a gray area? I think most people would say its justified to want to get revenge for the brutal rape and murder of your family members?



I know the series can be very frustrating, but when you calm down you'll see how unreasonable you're being.

Bad shit happens to the guys generally considered to be the "bad guys" too and sometimes the "good guy" catches a break. Joffrey died earlier this season and a common complaint of Dany's story thus far has been that she's had nothing but smooth sailings.

Just killing the more likable character isn't solely what makes this series interesting it's that few characters really meet the criteria for being clearly categorized as good or evil. Which is unusual for the fantasy genre. Almost everyone is a grey character. Jamie seemed like a piece of shit at the beginning of this series, but over time he grew into being one of the more popular characters. It was only in raping Cersei earlier in this season did people seem to remember that he threw a fucking kid out a window and murdered a young man to escape his cell back in season 2.



i guess im alone in not liking Dany... she doesnt seem to be any better than anyone else.

She makes decisions like a child. (tho i guess in the books she is only like 14-15 or something ya?)

but literally she makes a decision..someone tells her its wrong then she changes it..nonstop.

idk not a fan.


Oh I'm not either by any means. She does seem to be an especially popular character though (Emilia Clark always gets a lot of cheers) and one that seems to be more affiliated with qualities one would consider "good".

I don't think she's a good leader, but she does have noble intentions with trying to break the slave trade in Essos. You can't really fault her for wanting what she's been brought up to believe is her birthright in Westeros either.

I couldnt get over the fact that she was willing to unleash a barbarian horde on Westeros that would rape, murder and pillage everything in sight just so she could sit on the iron throne. It should be brough up more often.


Well, she is kind of a naive young girl as well. I don't think she fully grasps the rigors of war and leadership which was kind of evident in how she was opposed to how the Dothraki treated their prisoners (namely the women) despite wanting to lead a conquest in Westeros.

Yes, I think this was shown in the last episodes when she realized everything she had done didn't really pan out the way she expected. She has ideals and uses her power as a means to achieve them but her problem is she wants everything.

She cant be that naive. She got a taste of how violent the Dothraki are at her own wedding, I mean cmon.
Vladix
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands227 Posts
June 02 2014 07:59 GMT
#24022
On June 02 2014 16:54 Gchzr wrote:
Guys... things like today's chapter make me wanna read the book... Is it possible to start in a book and avoid reading what i've seen in the serie? I mean, can i start reading the third book? or the fourth... or even the second?


Personally read from book 1, it is what I did at the end of last season.
But if you really don't whant to do that then book 3.
Otherwise you miss alot of characters and story.
Altsa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Finland990 Posts
June 02 2014 08:00 GMT
#24023
Before the episode I was guessing that the duel would somehow end up in a draw(Pretty close, though cant tell if Mountain is still alive)
When the duel started and there was only 5 minutes time left something shocking was bound to happen.
AoD
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
June 02 2014 08:13 GMT
#24024
I actually want to cry right now.
:-)
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
June 02 2014 08:14 GMT
#24025
That fight scene was pretty underwhelming considering the hype surrounding it. Expectations were set too high I guess.

Regardless, the other plot points that are evolving are some pretty exciting stuff.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 02 2014 08:15 GMT
#24026
On June 02 2014 16:54 Mafe wrote:
I dont get either why so many people think dany is "good". She tries to be good, sure, but many of her actions backfire in some way or dont last long (the cities she conquered before are now back under control of slavers). But then there's still the minor fact of being willing to bring war to a continent for the sake of what she thinks is her "right".


I mean she's not completely innocent, but thus far from what I can remember she's given her opposition the option of surrender with some form of diplomacy prior to any conflict. She's shown herself to be pretty benevolent for an invader as well.

That's about as good as it gets for a warmonger.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 08:20:37
June 02 2014 08:17 GMT
#24027
The worst was the unexpectedness of it all, even to the very end. Like, a guy who just got fucking stabbed, is disarmed, lying on the ground, how is he possibly going to win? Then you see him going batshit insane about the confession, the faces of tyrion turning from happy to worried and you're like oh fuck seriously?

Sigh, I just fucking wish if he were going to die he would have just died from the beginning or when he got his first spear broken. This was just traumatizing.
cosine
Profile Joined September 2011
313 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 08:23:13
June 02 2014 08:21 GMT
#24028
Ha ha, of course. This made me realize that the only thing I've been interested in this whole season is Oberyn getting his revenge. Welp.

Not the only thing, but the only thing getting airtime. Seriously, WHY do we keep going back to Essos? That storyline has been running in place since season 2. It's mind-numbingly boring. STOP.

The Caesar plot is probably one of the most consequential things happening. Yet it gets no airtime.

Stannis, THE RIGHTFUL FUCKING KING, gets no airtime. Nope. Better check in on Dany talking about some eunuch's twig and berries.

I know GRRM's whole schtick is "the good guys don't always win in my world," but hopefully he's clever enough to realize it's just as boring if they always lose.

Also, nit-pick, but why did they feel the need to draw attention to the fact that this supposedly well-realized fictional world apparently only has two songs? That's it just the two. They only would have had to come up with a title to make it seem like maybe there was at least one more.
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
June 02 2014 08:21 GMT
#24029
Dany is just turning into what she despises. She's just helping the lower class overthrow the upper class because sheer numbers win ezpz. She's too proud, and her naivete is showing again. Probably will be her downfall.
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
June 02 2014 08:30 GMT
#24030
Ow fuck. I really really wanted Oberyn to live.

The only character I really could get behind.
We know nothing.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
June 02 2014 08:33 GMT
#24031
On June 02 2014 17:21 cosine wrote:

Stannis, THE RIGHTFUL FUCKING KING, gets no airtime.


i know... Thank god.
you no take candle
massivez
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium653 Posts
June 02 2014 08:34 GMT
#24032


Shit's about to go down next episode :D
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3051 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 08:39:43
June 02 2014 08:36 GMT
#24033
That ending scene almost made me puke. By far the most gruesome death in the series imo. Ugh.
I don't know what to say, after this episode I think I am incapable of liking anyone else.

It makes me wonder, if the Lannisters are set for a downfall, how will it happen? Almost EVERYTHING has gone their way so far.

Those screams man...I knew something bad was going to happen once he became all obsessed with that confession. The change in the expressions of the spectators; from happy to apprehensive. Yup...
End my suffering
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
June 02 2014 08:36 GMT
#24034
--- Nuked ---
ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
June 02 2014 08:57 GMT
#24035
god damn this episode....what a mind blowing finish....(literally)
I was so glad I wasn't eating while watching.

Tyrion is so fucked now. He is so dead at the end of this season.

Poor Jorah. Mr. Friendzone here should've told her about the pardon long ago. Well I guess he'll come back and save her later, and sacrifice himself in the process?
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
June 02 2014 09:00 GMT
#24036
Relax people!
The Gods have spoken, Tyrion killed the king!
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
June 02 2014 09:02 GMT
#24037
On June 02 2014 17:34 massivez wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7zzphqUWmw

Shit's about to go down next episode :D

The vibe I got from that video was 'TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL!' lol
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
June 02 2014 09:03 GMT
#24038
On June 02 2014 17:34 massivez wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7zzphqUWmw

Shit's about to go down next episode :D

Wait we still only get one episode next week right? The end of that video confused me, but wikipedia says we will have the last episode in 2 weels. Better this way imho
Sterlymobile
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
June 02 2014 09:09 GMT
#24039
The longer the battle went the more scared I was for Oberyn. I kept waiting and waiting for a close up scene to come up when Oberyn would stab him in the head/face because that's how the meaningful deaths usually occur. But the tables turned. Good choreography tho, I wonder if Pedro did it himself or not.
"You sons of a silly person"
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
June 02 2014 09:11 GMT
#24040
Oberyn nooo!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
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