On June 02 2014 11:46 Darkhorse wrote: That episode was so game of thrones. I must say that the idea that the "bad guys" win a lot is great and it makes the show often. But I will also say that it is now kind of predictably bad in a way. My friend and I were calling that oberyn was fucked the whole fight. So by being unpredictable it seems that the show is becoming predictable? I dunno. Just thoughts.
I have to second this. This entire show has devolved into killing anyone that isn't completely corrupt or twisted. There's far too much mindless killing in the real world already for me to continue to be entertained by a show that only adds to it. I thought Game of Thrones was about more but I'm being proven wrong with each week's episode.
Like what did he expect to happen when he pushed Lysa off the edge? Was he really banking on Sansa bailing him out. Damn, like Sansa has been my favorite character since day one, but she really delivered. When she came out in that beautiful dress, damn. She is changing.
I wonder exactly what her motives were, but she honestly saved Petyr's life. Does she love him? Or did she do it because he's the only person that tries to help her and she doesn't want to feel alone? Or was she trying to save her own skin, because she might have lost a lot of power if Petyr was removed. Either way, I love this plot line so much, I hope we see more.
On June 02 2014 11:46 Darkhorse wrote: That episode was so game of thrones. I must say that the idea that the "bad guys" win a lot is great and it makes the show often. But I will also say that it is now kind of predictably bad in a way. My friend and I were calling that oberyn was fucked the whole fight. So by being unpredictable it seems that the show is becoming predictable? I dunno. Just thoughts.
I have to second this. This entire show has devolved into killing anyone that isn't completely corrupt or twisted. There's far too much mindless killing in the real world already for me to continue to be entertained by a show that only adds to it. I thought Game of Thrones was about more but I'm being proven wrong with each week's episode.
Eh, I think the good guys win more than bad guys. The thing is, I hate when things that have a one in a million chance of happening happen. Like if the Mountain was actually dominant and killed Oberyn, it would've all been good, but instead he was killed in this way.
You guys are just sad because a crowd favorite was killed.
On June 02 2014 11:46 Darkhorse wrote: That episode was so game of thrones. I must say that the idea that the "bad guys" win a lot is great and it makes the show often. But I will also say that it is now kind of predictably bad in a way. My friend and I were calling that oberyn was fucked the whole fight. So by being unpredictable it seems that the show is becoming predictable? I dunno. Just thoughts.
I have to second this. This entire show has devolved into killing anyone that isn't completely corrupt or twisted. There's far too much mindless killing in the real world already for me to continue to be entertained by a show that only adds to it. I thought Game of Thrones was about more but I'm being proven wrong with each week's episode.
...plenty of "bad guys" are dying also, in case you didn't notice. Arya is doing work on her list. Joffrey is down. Gregor most likely dead. The show tends to balance these things out in the long run.
On June 02 2014 11:47 sparkk51 wrote: I really feel like he should have won that and maybe have Tyrion die some other way. Oberyn was just way too bad ass to kill off in such a silly way as that. Not having gotten to that part in the books, I was really relishing in how much Oberyn dominated The Mountain, and only to see him die all of a sudden like that is a real downer. To be completely honest, I think GRRM is shoving a bit too much injustice into his books, as if it's his fetish.
World isn't fair. Particularly middle ages were goddamn brutal if stories are to be trusted.
Also, that result is quite logical, The Mountain revels in the rage and brutality of combat. Oberyn was an agile, calculated risk taker, and smart fighter. He let his rage get to him and cloud his judgement, he entered The Mountain's domain and got smashed, it's only logical.
You could have oberyn with that fight and it would seem just as logical. Give me a break, you cant analyze combat like that. The smallest thing can turn the tide when in a fight. Neither Oberyn nor The Mountain winning the dual should matter logically when it comes down to it.
Of course you could. If he had kept his cool, he would have won, undoubtedly, unless he tripped or something like that. But Oberyn had dominated the fight so far. He lost focus, and got killed, that's it.
On June 02 2014 11:47 sparkk51 wrote: I really feel like he should have won that and maybe have Tyrion die some other way. Oberyn was just way too bad ass to kill off in such a silly way as that. Not having gotten to that part in the books, I was really relishing in how much Oberyn dominated The Mountain, and only to see him die all of a sudden like that is a real downer. To be completely honest, I think GRRM is shoving a bit too much injustice into his books, as if it's his fetish.
World isn't fair. Particularly middle ages were goddamn brutal if stories are to be trusted.
Also, that result is quite logical, The Mountain revels in the rage and brutality of combat. Oberyn was an agile, calculated risk taker, and smart fighter. He let his rage get to him and cloud his judgement, he entered The Mountain's domain and got smashed, it's only logical.
It's only logical? Uhm if you put a spear through someone, doesn't matter how cocky you are, but if the guy is on the ground wounded like that, you have a good 99.999% of winning the fight.
On June 02 2014 11:47 sparkk51 wrote: I really feel like he should have won that and maybe have Tyrion die some other way. Oberyn was just way too bad ass to kill off in such a silly way as that. Not having gotten to that part in the books, I was really relishing in how much Oberyn dominated The Mountain, and only to see him die all of a sudden like that is a real downer. To be completely honest, I think GRRM is shoving a bit too much injustice into his books, as if it's his fetish.
World isn't fair. Particularly middle ages were goddamn brutal if stories are to be trusted.
Also, that result is quite logical, The Mountain revels in the rage and brutality of combat. Oberyn was an agile, calculated risk taker, and smart fighter. He let his rage get to him and cloud his judgement, he entered The Mountain's domain and got smashed, it's only logical.
You could have oberyn with that fight and it would seem just as logical. Give me a break, you cant analyze combat like that. The smallest thing can turn the tide when in a fight. Neither Oberyn nor The Mountain winning the dual should matter logically when it comes down to it.
Of course you could. If he had kept his cool, he would have won, undoubtedly, unless he tripped or something like that. But Oberyn had dominated the fight so far. He lost focus, and got killed, that's it.
Of course it makes sense after the fact, because that's what the show portrayed. However, it would still be logical if he went into that maddening rage and still ended up finishing the mountain. Do not tell me it was logically necessary.
On June 02 2014 11:47 sparkk51 wrote: I really feel like he should have won that and maybe have Tyrion die some other way. Oberyn was just way too bad ass to kill off in such a silly way as that. Not having gotten to that part in the books, I was really relishing in how much Oberyn dominated The Mountain, and only to see him die all of a sudden like that is a real downer. To be completely honest, I think GRRM is shoving a bit too much injustice into his books, as if it's his fetish.
World isn't fair. Particularly middle ages were goddamn brutal if stories are to be trusted.
Also, that result is quite logical, The Mountain revels in the rage and brutality of combat. Oberyn was an agile, calculated risk taker, and smart fighter. He let his rage get to him and cloud his judgement, he entered The Mountain's domain and got smashed, it's only logical.
It's only logical? Uhm if you put a spear through someone, doesn't matter how cocky you are, but if the guy is on the ground wounded like that, you have a good 99.999% of winning the fight.
Well it ain't 100% until he's dead. Shit like that happens all the time in many things. It's a "throw", quite massive too
On June 02 2014 11:47 sparkk51 wrote: I really feel like he should have won that and maybe have Tyrion die some other way. Oberyn was just way too bad ass to kill off in such a silly way as that. Not having gotten to that part in the books, I was really relishing in how much Oberyn dominated The Mountain, and only to see him die all of a sudden like that is a real downer. To be completely honest, I think GRRM is shoving a bit too much injustice into his books, as if it's his fetish.
World isn't fair. Particularly middle ages were goddamn brutal if stories are to be trusted.
Also, that result is quite logical, The Mountain revels in the rage and brutality of combat. Oberyn was an agile, calculated risk taker, and smart fighter. He let his rage get to him and cloud his judgement, he entered The Mountain's domain and got smashed, it's only logical.
It's only logical? Uhm if you put a spear through someone, doesn't matter how cocky you are, but if the guy is on the ground wounded like that, you have a good 99.999% of winning the fight.
Well it ain't 100% until he's dead. Shit like that happens all the time in many things. It's a "throw", quite massive too
Wich is why it was pretty lame that the fight was so one-sided in Oberyns favour up until that point. This was never a real fight, it went from oberyn toying with gregor to Oberyn dying. I would have prefered if it was more back and fourth like bronn vs vardis in s1.
On June 02 2014 11:46 Darkhorse wrote: That episode was so game of thrones. I must say that the idea that the "bad guys" win a lot is great and it makes the show often. But I will also say that it is now kind of predictably bad in a way. My friend and I were calling that oberyn was fucked the whole fight. So by being unpredictable it seems that the show is becoming predictable? I dunno. Just thoughts.
I have to second this. This entire show has devolved into killing anyone that isn't completely corrupt or twisted. There's far too much mindless killing in the real world already for me to continue to be entertained by a show that only adds to it. I thought Game of Thrones was about more but I'm being proven wrong with each week's episode.
...plenty of "bad guys" are dying also, in case you didn't notice. Arya is doing work on her list. Joffrey is down. Gregor most likely dead. The show tends to balance these things out in the long run.
You think Arya is a "good guy"? She laughs at news of her aunt's death and the only thing that makes her happy is killing people on her list. She's as twisted as they come. The only interesting character left is the Hound in my opinion, and if he dies to some infected neck bite I swear I'm done with this show.
On June 02 2014 11:46 Darkhorse wrote: That episode was so game of thrones. I must say that the idea that the "bad guys" win a lot is great and it makes the show often. But I will also say that it is now kind of predictably bad in a way. My friend and I were calling that oberyn was fucked the whole fight. So by being unpredictable it seems that the show is becoming predictable? I dunno. Just thoughts.
I have to second this. This entire show has devolved into killing anyone that isn't completely corrupt or twisted. There's far too much mindless killing in the real world already for me to continue to be entertained by a show that only adds to it. I thought Game of Thrones was about more but I'm being proven wrong with each week's episode.
...plenty of "bad guys" are dying also, in case you didn't notice. Arya is doing work on her list. Joffrey is down. Gregor most likely dead. The show tends to balance these things out in the long run.
You think Arya is a "good guy"? She laughs at news of her aunt's death and the only thing that makes her happy is killing people on her list. She's as twisted as they come. The only interesting character left is the Hound in my opinion, and if he dies to some infected neck bite I swear I'm done with this show.
I don't recall saying Arya is a good guy or a bad guy. She's in a grey area. Her actions are justifiable to some, and not to others. The point is that she is killing "bad guys".
On June 02 2014 11:47 sparkk51 wrote: I really feel like he should have won that and maybe have Tyrion die some other way. Oberyn was just way too bad ass to kill off in such a silly way as that. Not having gotten to that part in the books, I was really relishing in how much Oberyn dominated The Mountain, and only to see him die all of a sudden like that is a real downer. To be completely honest, I think GRRM is shoving a bit too much injustice into his books, as if it's his fetish.
World isn't fair. Particularly middle ages were goddamn brutal if stories are to be trusted.
Also, that result is quite logical, The Mountain revels in the rage and brutality of combat. Oberyn was an agile, calculated risk taker, and smart fighter. He let his rage get to him and cloud his judgement, he entered The Mountain's domain and got smashed, it's only logical.
It's only logical? Uhm if you put a spear through someone, doesn't matter how cocky you are, but if the guy is on the ground wounded like that, you have a good 99.999% of winning the fight.
Well it ain't 100% until he's dead. Shit like that happens all the time in many things. It's a "throw", quite massive too
Wich is why it was pretty lame that the fight was so one-sided in Oberyns favour up until that point. This was never a real fight, it went from oberyn toying with gregor to Oberyn dying. I would have prefered if it was more back and fourth like bronn vs vardis in s1.
Oberynn was a superior fighter. He was toying with Gregor because he was just that much better.
But as this story has told over and over again. Sometimes, it doesn't matter who is right, or who is the best. What matters is at the end of the day who is alive and who is dead.
It happens in real life all the time. Talented and good people die every day on their way to and from work or to diseases that plenty of other people recover from.
If there's an overarching theme in Game of Thrones it is that life is unfair and at times he can be downright brutal. Cherish what you have while you have it.
Well thats problematic because i dont really care about what happens to half of the characters and some of them i find impossible to cherish. You cant deny the show suffers from being unbalanced in terms of cast and well developed storylines. While some are starting to gain momentum (Sansa) others have been at a boring stalemate for like two seasons now, its getting weary.
Oberynn spent all sentry energy on humilation-hallucinations when he thought he won the push, no energy for forcefields when Gregor rebuilt roaches... gg
I got spoileered about oberynn dying there and just seeing it happen made me even sadder. He was a badass and he had the mountain beat and then gets his face smashed in.
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