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sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 02:23:36
June 02 2014 02:21 GMT
#23861
On June 02 2014 11:14 iS.Mike wrote:
That was the first episode that made me legitimately angry. He couldn't just put a spear through the mountain's face? Goddamnit.

Well you gotta keep in mind that Oberyn didnt realy care for Tyrions fate. He "threw" the fight the moment he decided that simply killing the mountain would not have been satisfaction enough so he got greedy...
you no take candle
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
June 02 2014 02:23 GMT
#23862
On June 02 2014 11:21 sc2holar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 11:14 iS.Mike wrote:
That was the first episode that made me legitimately angry. He couldn't just put a spear through the mountain's face? Goddamnit.

Well you gotta keep in mind that Oberyn didnt realy care for Tyrions fate. He "threw" the fight because simply killing the mountain would not have been satisfaction enough


If you are going to interrogate someone, who happens to be one of the strongest fighters in westeros, before you kill him maybe just maybe you should at least stab the arms or maybe even the leg just so that he cant get up (though I have no idea if he is actually going to survive).
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 02:28:27
June 02 2014 02:25 GMT
#23863
On June 02 2014 11:23 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 11:21 sc2holar wrote:
On June 02 2014 11:14 iS.Mike wrote:
That was the first episode that made me legitimately angry. He couldn't just put a spear through the mountain's face? Goddamnit.

Well you gotta keep in mind that Oberyn didnt realy care for Tyrions fate. He "threw" the fight because simply killing the mountain would not have been satisfaction enough


If you are going to interrogate someone, who happens to be one of the strongest fighters in westeros, before you kill him maybe just maybe you should at least stab the arms or maybe even the leg just so that he cant get up (though I have no idea if he is actually going to survive).

Well he pierced the mountains leg and shounder thats why he collapsed in the first place. I think pulling out the spear was the real mistake, leaving it would prevent the bleeding and prolong the mountains death anyways and would have kept him pinned down.
you no take candle
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 02:30:32
June 02 2014 02:29 GMT
#23864
NO

+ Show Spoiler +
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKING FUCK FUCK

I nearly broke my foot kicking the wall after that episode. Oh my Oberyn. What a way to go that shit was gruesome. Also he threw that fight so hard. Also he was an awesome character. Also Tyrion is now sentenced to death.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKING FUCK FUCK!
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
June 02 2014 02:31 GMT
#23865
Whhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyy!!!?!?!?!?!?!?

I swear... this series just takes everything I love about it and rips it away. If they actually kill the imp I'm done. So done.
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
June 02 2014 02:32 GMT
#23866
I liked the moment when Tywin shut up pycelle. Its hard to stand his ramblings and Tywins no BS attitude is his most redeeming quality.
you no take candle
JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
June 02 2014 02:32 GMT
#23867
Mmmm, tears
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
June 02 2014 02:36 GMT
#23868
On June 02 2014 11:31 Joedaddy wrote:
Whhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyy!!!?!?!?!?!?!?

I swear... this series just takes everything I love about it and rips it away. If they actually kill the imp I'm done. So done.


What I realized when I was reading the books, is that Martin's complete disregard for killing his characters made me feel actual fear when they got into trouble.

Most books, especially fantasy, you react to the characters being in danger in an almost cinematic way. Sure it sucks, but hey they're a main character so they have to get out somehow right?

What Martin does is give you the feeling that NO character is truly safe and it makes the danger they encounter in the story far more impacting.

It's really quite masterful.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
June 02 2014 02:40 GMT
#23869
On June 02 2014 11:36 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 11:31 Joedaddy wrote:
Whhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyy!!!?!?!?!?!?!?

I swear... this series just takes everything I love about it and rips it away. If they actually kill the imp I'm done. So done.


What I realized when I was reading the books, is that Martin's complete disregard for killing his characters made me feel actual fear when they got into trouble.

Most books, especially fantasy, you react to the characters being in danger in an almost cinematic way. Sure it sucks, but hey they're a main character so they have to get out somehow right?

What Martin does is give you the feeling that NO character is truly safe and it makes the danger they encounter in the story far more impacting.

It's really quite masterful.

Well the problem is that once you picked the wings of a fly, it just crawls around. You cant kill off every interesting/likeable character and expect people to continue watching just to see who dies next.
you no take candle
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
June 02 2014 02:42 GMT
#23870
On June 02 2014 11:40 sc2holar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 11:36 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 02 2014 11:31 Joedaddy wrote:
Whhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyy!!!?!?!?!?!?!?

I swear... this series just takes everything I love about it and rips it away. If they actually kill the imp I'm done. So done.


What I realized when I was reading the books, is that Martin's complete disregard for killing his characters made me feel actual fear when they got into trouble.

Most books, especially fantasy, you react to the characters being in danger in an almost cinematic way. Sure it sucks, but hey they're a main character so they have to get out somehow right?

What Martin does is give you the feeling that NO character is truly safe and it makes the danger they encounter in the story far more impacting.

It's really quite masterful.

Well the problem is that once you picked the wings of a fly, it just crawls around. You cant kill off every interesting/likeable character and expect people to continue watching just to see who dies next.


Well good thing there are plenty interesting/likable characters left then
suxN
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Finland1167 Posts
June 02 2014 02:43 GMT
#23871
On June 02 2014 11:31 Joedaddy wrote:
Whhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyy!!!?!?!?!?!?!?

I swear... this series just takes everything I love about it and rips it away. If they actually kill the imp I'm done. So done.


Oh come on, there are still plenty of amazing characters to look forward to
I dont want to be totally out :3
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 04:32:07
June 02 2014 02:43 GMT
#23872
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 02:46:48
June 02 2014 02:45 GMT
#23873
On June 02 2014 11:42 GwSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 11:40 sc2holar wrote:
On June 02 2014 11:36 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 02 2014 11:31 Joedaddy wrote:
Whhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyy!!!?!?!?!?!?!?

I swear... this series just takes everything I love about it and rips it away. If they actually kill the imp I'm done. So done.


What I realized when I was reading the books, is that Martin's complete disregard for killing his characters made me feel actual fear when they got into trouble.

Most books, especially fantasy, you react to the characters being in danger in an almost cinematic way. Sure it sucks, but hey they're a main character so they have to get out somehow right?

What Martin does is give you the feeling that NO character is truly safe and it makes the danger they encounter in the story far more impacting.

It's really quite masterful.

Well the problem is that once you picked the wings of a fly, it just crawls around. You cant kill off every interesting/likeable character and expect people to continue watching just to see who dies next.


Well good thing there are plenty interesting/likable characters left then

Theon, LF, Arya and the Hound are those i like besides Tyrion. Others like Bran, The Wall, Danny and Stannis i would honestly not tune in to watch unless theirs stories and characters are radically improved. But Danny for example only seems to get worse.
you no take candle
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 02 2014 02:46 GMT
#23874
That episode was so game of thrones. I must say that the idea that the "bad guys" win a lot is great and it makes the show often. But I will also say that it is now kind of predictably bad in a way. My friend and I were calling that oberyn was fucked the whole fight. So by being unpredictable it seems that the show is becoming predictable? I dunno. Just thoughts.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
sparkk51
Profile Joined August 2011
United States137 Posts
June 02 2014 02:47 GMT
#23875
I really feel like he should have won that and maybe have Tyrion die some other way. Oberyn was just way too bad ass to kill off in such a silly way as that. Not having gotten to that part in the books, I was really relishing in how much Oberyn dominated The Mountain, and only to see him die all of a sudden like that is a real downer. To be completely honest, I think GRRM is shoving a bit too much injustice into his books, as if it's his fetish.
sparkk51
Profile Joined August 2011
United States137 Posts
June 02 2014 02:48 GMT
#23876
On June 02 2014 11:46 Darkhorse wrote:
That episode was so game of thrones. I must say that the idea that the "bad guys" win a lot is great and it makes the show often. But I will also say that it is now kind of predictably bad in a way. My friend and I were calling that oberyn was fucked the whole fight. So by being unpredictable it seems that the show is becoming predictable? I dunno. Just thoughts.


absolutely this
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 02 2014 02:49 GMT
#23877
On June 02 2014 11:43 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 11:40 sc2holar wrote:
On June 02 2014 11:36 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 02 2014 11:31 Joedaddy wrote:
Whhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyy!!!?!?!?!?!?!?

I swear... this series just takes everything I love about it and rips it away. If they actually kill the imp I'm done. So done.


What I realized when I was reading the books, is that Martin's complete disregard for killing his characters made me feel actual fear when they got into trouble.

Most books, especially fantasy, you react to the characters being in danger in an almost cinematic way. Sure it sucks, but hey they're a main character so they have to get out somehow right?

What Martin does is give you the feeling that NO character is truly safe and it makes the danger they encounter in the story far more impacting.

It's really quite masterful.

Well the problem is that once you picked the wings of a fly, it just crawls around. You cant kill off every interesting/likeable character and expect people to continue watching just to see who dies next.


That would be true if he didn't also create a storyline that was so engrossing that it surpasses even the characters in importance.

The characters in Game of Thrones are just pieces on a chess board, there's a bigger picture, a whole world that feels truly alive.

Unlike other stories, that would just fall apart if you took the characters out, Westeros feels like the real world. Kill an important person off and sure it's a big deal, but the world doesn't stop turning, Winter doesn't stop coming.

Keep faith, you'll see what I'm talking about.

I will watch the show without Tyrion, but you can't convince me that someone can fill that hole when I have to spend a ton of time watching Hodor and the wonder kids trek through the snow and avoid the ice zombies and the other half watching Danny sit in a city and fight with her counselors. Tyrion would leave a huge void in terms of awesome main characters D:
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
June 02 2014 02:59 GMT
#23878
holy shit. wtf. i did not expect that.
im deaf
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
June 02 2014 02:59 GMT
#23879
On June 02 2014 11:47 sparkk51 wrote:
I really feel like he should have won that and maybe have Tyrion die some other way. Oberyn was just way too bad ass to kill off in such a silly way as that. Not having gotten to that part in the books, I was really relishing in how much Oberyn dominated The Mountain, and only to see him die all of a sudden like that is a real downer. To be completely honest, I think GRRM is shoving a bit too much injustice into his books, as if it's his fetish.

World isn't fair. Particularly middle ages were goddamn brutal if stories are to be trusted.

Also, that result is quite logical, The Mountain revels in the rage and brutality of combat. Oberyn was an agile, calculated risk taker, and smart fighter. He let his rage get to him and cloud his judgement, he entered The Mountain's domain and got smashed, it's only logical.
sparkk51
Profile Joined August 2011
United States137 Posts
June 02 2014 03:04 GMT
#23880
On June 02 2014 11:59 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 11:47 sparkk51 wrote:
I really feel like he should have won that and maybe have Tyrion die some other way. Oberyn was just way too bad ass to kill off in such a silly way as that. Not having gotten to that part in the books, I was really relishing in how much Oberyn dominated The Mountain, and only to see him die all of a sudden like that is a real downer. To be completely honest, I think GRRM is shoving a bit too much injustice into his books, as if it's his fetish.

World isn't fair. Particularly middle ages were goddamn brutal if stories are to be trusted.

Also, that result is quite logical, The Mountain revels in the rage and brutality of combat. Oberyn was an agile, calculated risk taker, and smart fighter. He let his rage get to him and cloud his judgement, he entered The Mountain's domain and got smashed, it's only logical.


You could have oberyn with that fight and it would seem just as logical. Give me a break, you cant analyze combat like that. The smallest thing can turn the tide when in a fight. Neither Oberyn nor The Mountain winning the dual should matter logically when it comes down to it.
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