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On April 21 2014 16:51 Omnishroud wrote: Fucking tyrion is so awesome. Got teary eyed with the scene with his squire. Guy is so fuckin legit. D:
exactly the same
so at the end we gave a lot of credit for the fool, for nothing .. meh :D
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On April 21 2014 22:05 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 21:42 Conti wrote:On April 21 2014 20:42 Redox wrote: Was not rape in the incest scene. Yes, yes it was. By our modern, politically correct standards. But I am pretty sure she could have gotten rid off him if she really tried hard. Like biting him instead of kissing him in between shouting no. I suppose we could have that whole silly "is it rape when she says no?" internet discussion here, but let me just link you to an interview with the director who clearly says that it was rape instead: Here you go.
(As always, best to stay away from the comments on that site, there might be spoilers)
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Nothing better than a little fuckery next to your dead incest son/king.
Favourite scenes definitely Tywin/Tommen, Tywin/Oberyn and Tyrion/Podrick.
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On April 21 2014 22:21 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 22:05 Redox wrote:On April 21 2014 21:42 Conti wrote:On April 21 2014 20:42 Redox wrote: Was not rape in the incest scene. Yes, yes it was. By our modern, politically correct standards. But I am pretty sure she could have gotten rid off him if she really tried hard. Like biting him instead of kissing him in between shouting no. I suppose we could have that whole silly "is it rape when she says no?" internet discussion here, but let me just link you to an interview with the director who clearly says that it was rape instead: Here you go. (As always, best to stay away from the comments on that site, there might be spoilers) Yes and he says it becomes consensual.
Well, it becomes consensual by the end, because anything for them ultimately results in a turn-on, especially a power struggle.
http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-game-of-thrones-breaker-of-chains-uncle-deadly
It is a thing in beween. And yeah it is a topic which is quite annoying to discuss because of political connotations.
But whatever we like to call it, I think it is pretty safe to say that Cersei will not cry herself to sleep over it.
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Israel2209 Posts
Edit: Maybe this post was originally a bit against the rules of this thread
Anyway, I think there's room for interpretation as to what is regarded as rape in Westeros.
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On April 21 2014 22:54 Noam wrote: Edit: Maybe this post was originally a bit against the rules of this thread
Anyway, I think there's room for interpretation as to what is regarded as rape in Westeros. The thing is, it doesnt matter how we regard it or how Westeros regards it. It only matters how Jaime and Cersei regard it.
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Yay, Littlefinger is back! I was starting to miss him. Good stuff happens when he's around.
About the murder, I'm still clueless. Littlefinger has something to do with it obviously, but I don't know what. Was the necklace a container for the poison, as some people speculated last week? Or was it just a cheap fake to gain Sansa's trust and get her on the ship? What does Littlefinger want with Sansa anyway? Poisonous necklace or not, we still don't know how the murder happened, who did it, and who Littlefinger's accomplices are. The one thing I do know is that a dead king is chaos, chaos is a ladder, and Littlefinger intends to climb it.
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Jaime and Cersei fucking next to their dead son was probably the lowest point of the whole series.
What's next? Arya has sex with The Hound? Lord Oberon makes The Mountain his sex slave? Danaerys has a gangbang with The Unsullied?
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On April 21 2014 23:36 Scorch wrote: Yay, Littlefinger is back! I was starting to miss him. Good stuff happens when he's around.
About the murder, I'm still clueless. Littlefinger has something to do with it obviously, but I don't know what. Was the necklace a container for the poison, as some people speculated last week? Or was it just a cheap fake to gain Sansa's trust and get her on the ship? What does Littlefinger want with Sansa anyway? Poisonous necklace or not, we still don't know how the murder happened, who did it, and who Littlefinger's accomplices are. The one thing I do know is that a dead king is chaos, chaos is a ladder, and Littlefinger intends to climb it.
I was missing him too! He is such a great player in the Game of Thrones. I hope the show does him more justice as the series progresses.
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Sweden1812 Posts
The neckless in this episode is missing the black (or dark, at least) crystal it had when Dantos gave it to Sansa. I'd assume that missing thing was the container for the poison. What better way to get poison close to the king by having it unwittingly hidden next to him? As littlefinger was the one behind having her get it, it seems kind of obvious he's responsible for planning the murder. The only question is who administered it to the drink. The Tyrell lady was the only one touching the necklace as far as we know, but she didn't really seem to take anything from it. But maybe she's got some insane sleight of hand skills. The thought of Olenna and Littlefinger working together is scary. They're both extremely cunning. I don't get why she'd want to kill Jeoffery before the consumation of the marriage though.
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I have a theory about the murder. We've seen a whole list of people with motives, the Tyrell's, Tyrion, Tywin, Varus (for the good of the kingdom?), Oberyn (revenge), Littlefinger (though what he stands to gain from eliminating Joffrey is very unclear, it would seem that he had some knowledge of the plot since plotting Sansa's escape at the same time)..........anyway the list is very long.
Has anyone ever contemplated that it could be Shae doing it to either 'protect' Tyrion or maybe even to get revenge, although I somewhat doubt that. We haven't heard about her arriving in Dorne and she clearly has a motive and some cunning as well as a motive for revenge.
At the moment Littlefinger and Shae look like plausible candidates to me.
I think my theories should be good.
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Littlefinger doesn't gain anything from the murder itself. However, since Tyrion is the suspect and will likely be punished with death, Littlefinger can then marry Sansa, a wish he had expressed in season 3 already. The marriage would give Littlefinger more power.
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He couldn't have Cat, so he's taking the next best thing (her daughter) — who also happens to be the last Stark alive (to their knowledge). Not that Winterfell is much to claim, anymore. I bet he even dislikes the cold of the North. Doubt that's his end goal.
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Targaryen's girl scenes are so boring -_- It was good when Khal Drago was alive but now its pretty meh.
Oberyn slowly becomes my favorite character, i still need to see his fight though.
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On April 21 2014 23:42 urboss wrote: Jaime and Cersei fucking next to their dead son was probably the lowest point of the whole series.
What's next? Arya has sex with The Hound? Lord Oberon makes The Mountain his sex slave? Danaerys has a gangbang with The Unsullied?
Thats gonna be a boring gang bang with a bunch of castrates
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Nothing about Varys again :/ He is de facto ruling the Kings Landing and I am pretty sure he knew about murder ... him + Littlefinger are two most important players in westeros imho
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On April 22 2014 00:14 SpikeStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 23:42 urboss wrote: Jaime and Cersei fucking next to their dead son was probably the lowest point of the whole series.
What's next? Arya has sex with The Hound? Lord Oberon makes The Mountain his sex slave? Danaerys has a gangbang with The Unsullied? Thats gonna be a boring gang bang with a bunch of castrates That's true. They can use strap-on dildos though.
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On April 22 2014 00:01 urboss wrote: Littlefinger doesn't gain anything from the murder itself. However, since Tyrion is the suspect and will likely be punished with death, Littlefinger can then marry Sansa, a wish he had expressed in season 3 already. The marriage would give Littlefinger more power.
It's hard to imagine that Littlefinger would know that Joffrey was going to make Tyrion his personal cup bearer ahead of time. If that doesn't happen then Tyrion wouldn't be nearly as much of a suspect as he currently is.
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On April 22 2014 01:35 karazax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2014 00:01 urboss wrote: Littlefinger doesn't gain anything from the murder itself. However, since Tyrion is the suspect and will likely be punished with death, Littlefinger can then marry Sansa, a wish he had expressed in season 3 already. The marriage would give Littlefinger more power. It's hard to imagine that Littlefinger would know that Joffrey was going to make Tyrion his personal cup bearer ahead of time. If that doesn't happen then Tyrion wouldn't be nearly as much of a suspect as he currently is.
His little hateful tirade to Cersei in S2 would have still brought her to suspect him, I'm afraid.
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On April 21 2014 23:42 urboss wrote: Jaime and Cersei fucking next to their dead son was probably the lowest point of the whole series.
What's next? Arya has sex with The Hound? Lord Oberon makes The Mountain his sex slave? Danaerys has a gangbang with The Unsullied? Youre not even paying attention to the show if you think she can have a gangbang with the Unsullied.
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