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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
sad they couldnt get an actor that i think fits | ||
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SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
lol youre probably trolling but a lot of people are just butchering all the names... just read the books and get it right  | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 08 2014 02:36 AsnSensation wrote: Ep 2 Preview was just uploaded. Seems like Varys at least appears again! Also Stannis the Mannis, Bran and the apparently already the Royal Wedding! I think there is a new actor for Tommen (at 0:20 ). He looks much older now. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12365 Posts
On April 07 2014 22:07 ensign_lee wrote: So one thing that bothered me in the scene with the Dornish prince. If he and his house hated the Lannisters so much, why didn't they join either Rob's rebellion or Stannis' rebellion? They could have opened up an entire second front, splitting the Lannister soldiers even more. And furthermore, why would they accept one of the Cercei's daughters as a bride if they hated them so much? Seems easier to just topple the Lannisters and wed the victors. Gregor Clegane might be the one who killed Elia Martell in the end, but you have to remember the rebellion was an alliance of Baratheon and Stark against the Targaryen. Oberyn might hate the Lannisters more on a personal level, but Dorne is no more a friend of Robb or Stannis than they are of the Lannister. Also Tyrion tried to secure an alliance with them first, through Myrcella in season 2, whereas the others didn't do a thing. | ||
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Mensol
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I will be super relieved after she gets eaten though. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On April 08 2014 04:25 teddyoojo wrote: i thought the old daario was completly off the book character, the new ones aswell sad they couldnt get an actor that i think fits maybe they could make this one better in future, but Stannis is the worst casted character for me. The guy in the show just isn't fucking stannis baratheon. Anywho, episode 1 was great and I'm so happy this show is back in my life. I couldn't be more hype for the season. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
I tthink Shae might be in danger here, that spy didn't look too benevolent, and Tyrion doesn't know he's not able to overstep his boundaries anymore... More ramsay bolton pls | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
On April 08 2014 04:25 Sub40APM wrote: Because this is a Martin standard approach in his story telling. Good guys have 99/100 chance to win, oh too bad, 1/100 event occurs. Bad guys have a 1/100 chance to win? Well lucky them, everything worked out in their favor. Just think about the sequence of events in the first season: Ned as still hand of the king and therefore speaking for all the westeros basically declares war on the Lannisters, King goes on one of his drunk hunts with the best swordsman in the kingdoms and gets killed. What if he doesnt, thats it, game of thrones over. Lannisters go to war against 4 kingdoms. That's a bit of over simplification that removes all responsibility for the "good guys" mistakes. Ned was stupid to tell Cersei his plans. Ned was stupid not to seize power for himself, even if it was only temporarily until he could shift it to Stannis as was his intention. Robert's death wasn't luck, he was given excessive amounts of wine by Lancel while he was hunting wild boars with the intention of killing them in hand to hand combat with a spear. Or the war. Robb Stark has a chance to trap and destroy yet another Lannister army, whoops idiot uncle Brutus actually wins a battle. Edmure should have followed orders, but that was another mistake, not "luck". Robb could have shared his plans with his uncle and reduced the chances of that happening. He also could have kept his oath to the Freys and they would have stayed on his side. He killed Karstark for getting revenge on helpless Lannister squires, but didn't seem to see the hypocrisy in breaking his marriage oath for his own selfish reasons which doomed his entire side. There was no rush for him to marry Talisa. At worst he could have kept her as a companion til the war was over, which could be years, and THEN married her and broken the oath to the Freys. Talisa was never seen pressuring him to marry, and many nobles had girls on the side. But by publicly marrying her and forsaking his allies this wasn't a 1 in 100 unlucky event, it was a bad decision. Greyjoys have a chance to invade the richest kingdoms of the South like the army-less Lannister and Tyrell lands? Nope, lets invade the barren North, the one place where portable and easily to steal wealth is not available. Who needs gold when we can have lumber! Actually you have it backwards. The Lannisters were fighting in the south, as were the Starks. Sure the Greyjoy armies would have done alot of damage and further stretched the Lannister's strength, but the Greyjoys were also attacking north out of revenge for Ned helping lead the attack that crushed their rebellion and all the northern armies were in the South. Plus they were just supposed to raid coastal towns, Theon did Winterfell on his own. Robb should have never sent Theon back, he was the incentive for good behavior for the Greyjoys as long as he was a royal captive. Or the Tyrells Stannis just killed our golden ticket, but now the war is even, well, better marry the Lannisters who are the only ones equal to our power instead of letting Stannis destroy them before marrying a Stark to a Tyrelll and forming a new North-South alliance. That wasn't really an option since Robb was pleged to the Frey's at the point Catelyn went to visit Renly, and then broke that vow out of love, so unlikely he would leave Talisa for Margery either. Plus Robb wanted to break the north free from the 7 kingdoms, which none of the other potential candidates for the throne wanted. Yes the Starks had a lot of "bad luck" but they also had a ton of bad decisions. If we are talking "realistic", the opposite is usually true in most stories. Good guys are in a do or die spot and have a 1% chance of winning and find it. | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On April 08 2014 04:40 AsnSensation wrote: well I think Orcasgt initially just took Daenerys' nick name "Danni" and made it Dannis and didn't mix up Daenerys and Stannis lol. Yep. This. There was no confusion on my part. I thought it was obvious who I ment lol | ||
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Mensol
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Some people are really good at their predictions. I dont know how it's possible to predict that sharply. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On April 08 2014 05:24 Nebuchad wrote: Gregor Clegane might be the one who killed Elia Martell in the end, but you have to remember the rebellion was an alliance of Baratheon and Stark against the Targaryen. Oberyn might hate the Lannisters more on a personal level, but Dorne is no more a friend of Robb or Stannis than they are of the Lannister. Also Tyrion tried to secure an alliance with them first, through Myrcella in season 2, whereas the others didn't do a thing. Also geography. The North/Riverlands are on one side of Westeros, the Dornish are on the other, with the entirety of the Reach/Westerlands/Crownlands between them (Dragonstone is also distant from Dorne). Outside of a small window where Stannis gets the allegiance of an army to attack KL (which I don't think Stannis had the time to contact them given he seems to have gone straight for KL), it would mean having to march through Renly's army/territory first, and then attack the Lannisters in the Westerlands/Crownlands, and only after that linking up with Robb. It would make little sense for them. | ||
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Sub40APM
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On April 08 2014 06:00 karazax wrote: stuff Yes, I agree that the Good Guys keep making dumb mistakes. But thats how Martin likes to stack the deck. Which is why the Dornish never got involved in the war despite having every reason to hate Lannisters. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
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On April 08 2014 06:54 Sub40APM wrote: Yes, I agree that the Good Guys keep making dumb mistakes. But thats how Martin likes to stack the deck. Which is why the Dornish never got involved in the war despite having every reason to hate Lannisters. No it is not, but i can't really tell more here.. | ||
KadaverBB
Germany25657 Posts
On April 08 2014 07:15 The_Red_Viper wrote: No it is not, but i can't really tell more here.. Why make a post like this then? Just PM him if you want to talk about it. We don't need any more "hueheuheu I have read the books" posts like these | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On April 08 2014 07:21 KadaverBB wrote: Why make a post like this then? Just PM him if you want to talk about it. We don't need any more "hueheuheu I have read the books" posts like these Fair enough i guess. This wasn't really meant as such, but i see where you are coming from. I just didn't like his generel approach, if you still think there are good and bad guys you probably don't understand the biggest theme in the whole series... | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On April 08 2014 07:30 The_Red_Viper wrote: Fair enough i guess. This wasn't really meant as such, but i see where you are coming from. I just didn't like his generel approach, if you still think there are good and bad guys you probably don't understand the biggest theme in the whole series... Ya totally. The guy who just wanted to help his alcoholic friend after he was told by his sister in law that his other friend was murdered by a clan of incestuous, treasonous, child murdering, money lovers is on the same level as the previously mentioned money lovers. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On April 08 2014 07:31 Sub40APM wrote: Ya totally. The guy who just wanted to help his alcoholic friend after he was told by his sister in law that his other friend was murdered by a clan of incestuous, treasonous, child murdering, money lovers is on the same level as the previously mentioned money lovers. His point wasn't that everyone is on the same level. His point is that most if not all characters are grey. There is no such thing as a clear separation between good and evil in GoT, and that is the real point of the series, as Martin stated himself. He doesn't believe in black and white characters, and he attempts to achieve realism by adding many layers to all characters, to the point that they all have good and evil in them. To quote the Davos/Melisandre exchange in S2: Melisandre: "Are you a good man, Ser Davos?" Davos: "I believe my parts are mixed, my lady. Good and bad". And because Davos is one of the best characters, he is right of course! (Yes, I know of Melisandre's response "If half an onion is black with rot, it's a rotten onion", but she is sort of a religious fanatic so..) | ||
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