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cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
November 28 2011 18:10 GMT
#3261
Well done for calling it early Cainam. After you wrote it, it became more and more obvious. I'm kinda liking this season and kinda hating it. A mixed bag really.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 28 2011 18:21 GMT
#3262
On November 29 2011 03:04 Rylaji wrote:
I dont think the hand is as significant as people think. He is just a "creepy" collector that wanted the job to be able to see shit in person, when blondie sold that on the net Masuka asked him for help and he did, albeit giving himself the hand instead.

They better make something of it. They've poured so much fucking time into the interns and Batista's sister that I'm going to be pissed if it all turns out to be inconsequential.

On November 29 2011 03:07 Tachion wrote:
They're quite obviously going to demote Debra back to a detective and promote Batista to lieutenant.

I dunno. Batista's been kinda a huge fuck-up lately. Not sure if they're really setting him up to take over.


Also, Anderson, wtf. Character still hasn't done a goddamn thing all season.
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zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
November 28 2011 18:27 GMT
#3263
They better make something of it. They've poured so much fucking time into the interns and Batista's sister that I'm going to be pissed if it all turns out to be inconsequential.


Ooh and all the buddy-cop-comedy stuff with Batista and Quinn was all of such huge importance?

Im not sure if it's going to come back as anything serious. I would hope so but i just don't know. It feels so completly detached from Dexter.

Maybe the guy is a serial killer and Dexter finds out/tracks/kills him in the last couple of episodes as a cherry on top of the "big bad".


It's disturbing that i care more for the hand plot then the Travis plot.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 28 2011 18:31 GMT
#3264
On November 29 2011 03:27 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
They better make something of it. They've poured so much fucking time into the interns and Batista's sister that I'm going to be pissed if it all turns out to be inconsequential.


Ooh and all the buddy-cop-comedy stuff with Batista and Quinn was all of such huge importance?

Im not sure if it's going to come back as anything serious. I would hope so but i just don't know. It feels so completly detached from Dexter.

Maybe the guy is a serial killer and Dexter finds out/tracks/kills him in the last couple of episodes as a cherry on top of the "big bad".


It's disturbing that i care more for the hand plot then the Travis plot.

When did I say I was OK with the Quinn Batista bullshit? lol. I still feel like there's been less Quinn/Batista bullshit than there's been spent on setting up whatever this sideplot is. and I dunno, I feel like there's going to be some sort of consequence at the end of the Quinn/Batista story arch, but who knows?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
November 28 2011 18:31 GMT
#3265
On November 29 2011 03:04 Rylaji wrote:
I dont think the hand is as significant as people think. He is just a "creepy" collector that wanted the job to be able to see shit in person, when blondie sold that on the net Masuka asked him for help and he did, albeit giving himself the hand instead.


No way. They wouldnt highlight something like that just to blow it off as not important. There is something big and i think its 99% likely he is a killer.
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Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
November 28 2011 18:57 GMT
#3266
A predictable plot like that is something you just can't get out of with good scripting, and you saw through-out the season how hard they tried to make it less obvious.

Though oddly enough, this episode balanced out as it included both the "geez didn't see that coming -.-" moment with Geller, and the "wtf is going on" moment with the ice truck killer hand.
/commercial
aLt)nirvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Singapore846 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 19:04:01
November 28 2011 19:02 GMT
#3267
On November 29 2011 03:31 Darkdeath3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 03:04 Rylaji wrote:
I dont think the hand is as significant as people think. He is just a "creepy" collector that wanted the job to be able to see shit in person, when blondie sold that on the net Masuka asked him for help and he did, albeit giving himself the hand instead.


No way. They wouldnt highlight something like that just to blow it off as not important. There is something big and i think its 99% likely he is a killer.



Yea I think this will lead to something. Hes probably studying dexter hard and since hes so analytical / capable he might found out dexters secret and be his rival end of season or next, idk! Certaintly would be nice to have two smarties going at each other for once.

And as many have said, the minor hand sub plot is alot more interesting then the geller crap thats going on.
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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
November 28 2011 19:26 GMT
#3268
Can someone explain to me what is going on with LaGuerta+that other guy?

They were talking about one of the murder victims I think? Didn't catch all of it because of my roommate.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
November 28 2011 19:33 GMT
#3269
On November 29 2011 03:57 Novalisk wrote:
A predictable plot like that is something you just can't get out of with good scripting, and you saw through-out the season how hard they tried to make it less obvious.

Though oddly enough, this episode balanced out as it included both the "geez didn't see that coming -.-" moment with Geller, and the "wtf is going on" moment with the ice truck killer hand.


Good script writing means not creating such a predictable plot to begin with.

Thus a good script writer would not have taken this turn for the horrible.


A good driver can't steer a car back onto a cliff but a good driver will not drive off the cliff to begin with.
Razakel
Profile Joined April 2011
Ireland466 Posts
November 28 2011 19:37 GMT
#3270
On November 29 2011 04:26 Cloud9157 wrote:
Can someone explain to me what is going on with LaGuerta+that other guy?

They were talking about one of the murder victims I think? Didn't catch all of it because of my roommate.


A prostitute was found dead - drug overdose seems pretty open and shut. But Dexter examines the body and determines that someone tried to give her CPR, but she died anyway (it wasn't the paramedics).

It's revealed that 'that other guy' is the Chief Deputy (he was the captain in earlier seasons) and he was actually the one who was with the prostitute and tried to give her CPR.

LaGuerta puts pressure on Debra to close the case, saying the case is unimportant compared to Doomsday, and having another unsolved case is bad. Debra reluctantly agrees, but a family member confronts her and asks her to reopen the case because of the evidence that CPR was given, so someone else was there and it may not have been the drug overdose after all.

So basically the chief is in the shit and LaGuerta is trying to help him out, since obviously a high ranking police officer can't be seen to be sleeping with prostitutes.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
November 28 2011 19:40 GMT
#3271
Well actually she doesn't have any reason to help him out since he fucked her over by promoting Debra.

LaGuerta is just a horrible blackmailer who not only gives up her blackmail material before getting her end of the deal, but she also apparently goes back and helps the guy that fucked her over.
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
November 28 2011 19:46 GMT
#3272
On November 29 2011 04:40 zalz wrote:
Well actually she doesn't have any reason to help him out since he fucked her over by promoting Debra.

LaGuerta is just a horrible blackmailer who not only gives up her blackmail material before getting her end of the deal, but she also apparently goes back and helps the guy that fucked her over.


well im pretty sure she's helping him in order to get batista his lieutenant rank
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Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
November 28 2011 20:02 GMT
#3273
On November 29 2011 04:33 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 03:57 Novalisk wrote:
A predictable plot like that is something you just can't get out of with good scripting, and you saw through-out the season how hard they tried to make it less obvious.

Though oddly enough, this episode balanced out as it included both the "geez didn't see that coming -.-" moment with Geller, and the "wtf is going on" moment with the ice truck killer hand.


Good script writing means not creating such a predictable plot to begin with.

Thus a good script writer would not have taken this turn for the horrible.


A good driver can't steer a car back onto a cliff but a good driver will not drive off the cliff to begin with.


Well, you can't expect perfection. Everyone makes mistakes, even good script writers. Besides, I'm not even sure they were in charge of setting the main plot for the season.

And LOL at that analogy, comparing a sub-par plot with a car falling off a cliff.
/commercial
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
November 28 2011 20:54 GMT
#3274
Is it just me, or are they really eager to be as extreme as it gets?

The killings, the strange plot, the beatings, the fuckings, the boring drama in MMH...

Jesus, did Dexter get a new director or whats up?
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pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
November 28 2011 20:54 GMT
#3275
TL conspiracy theory guys cracked it so early, good job guys! Also the last episode was great, can't wait for the rest of the season.
BeaSteR
Profile Joined May 2009
Sweden328 Posts
November 28 2011 21:21 GMT
#3276
I feel sad for Dexter, I love this show so much but this season hasn't deliverad at all. I still love it and always will, I just hope the series doesn't end in a bad fashion.
Greed is good
skipgamer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia701 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 22:47:47
November 28 2011 22:39 GMT
#3277
On November 29 2011 02:59 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 22:44 skipgamer wrote:
We finally get the reveal! 2 in one episode no less.

Anyone else realise now this elliot-hand thing is confirmed, the fact that Dexter's using his search engine is ridiculously dangerous? He will have access to everything Dex does.

Add to that the psych seems really interested in the Dexter relationship, she could very well be smelling something fishy, Then theres laguerta, and the new detective we know nothing about...

So many crazy plotlines developing, Im afraid we wont see them fully develop until next season. Anyone who says this season is boring and predictable is missing A LOT! (and probably just bitter they were wrong about geller)

The thing is it only seems like crazy plots and confrontations are building up while most of them will probably going absolutely no where. The intern thing is probably going to be nothing. This captain Mathews thing is completely meaningless regardless of if they try to turn it into something. Chances are it results with deb getting demoted for never catching DDK because Dexter kills him and they promote Batista then get him to re-close the case.

That is literally going no where. The intern thing *MIGHT* be going somewhere, but I doubt it. The Trinity shit is probably never going to come up again so that entire episode with his son was worthless.

So the only plotline I see going anywhere is the final confrontation between Travis and Dexter which I can't see any build up for what it could mean.

I also don't think the therapist plotline is going anywhere. I doubt she is going to realize Dexter is a serial killer based off the given information.

Most of this is going to be just about as disappointing as when Deb found out who Dexter's biological mother/brother were. She literally never mentioned it for a season and just mentioned it to Dexter this season as an off hand comment. They didn't even use it as a plot device for her to realize he might be a serial killer. They could of perfectly implemented that into season 5 during the failed final confrontation but they never did.

/rant

That's a fair call. I disagree with a few things though, I still don't think the Trinity episode was useless, it highlighted that Dexter is not that different from Travis (but also very different at the same time, considering dexter re-found "the light." *sigh*). I'm pretty certain the Elliot thing is going somewhere, he's too smart, and knows way too much. He's also got that bad guy vibe that Batista is picking up on. You're probably right about the therapist, but if the writers want to they could open it up and have her meet Dexter or something. But hey, we're all entitled to our opinions and I don't think mine is any more correct than yours.

I do think you're 100% right about that last paragraph though, it really is annoying how they have built up plot lines to be so important during a season, then in the next they just disregard it almost entirely. But that's just television really, they need to keep Dexter going. And I guess the best way to do that is to do a soft reset at the end of each season. It's all about the money at the end of the day, Lost anyone?
.nix
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
France23 Posts
November 28 2011 22:55 GMT
#3278
I really hope the intern just dies at some point.
As much as his sideplot is interesting, his character is goddamn annoying."Hey i'll erase everything off the internet with my alienware because i'm a genius.Also i am both a coroner, a rich video game developper, and a serial killer".

Feels like those '80s shows-at least in france-where there had to be a black/gangsta guy.
Each time he's all gangsta and heroic and talks like he's in the hood, yo.
Except now it's a nerd.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
November 28 2011 22:56 GMT
#3279
On November 29 2011 01:53 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 01:35 Cloud9157 wrote:
I originally thought he had multiple-personalities, but schizophrenia is a possibility.


Especially given the fact that schizophrenia is real and MPD is a Hollywood invention.


What?? No it's not, where do you get crazy theories like that? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_identity_disorder
We found Dove in a soapless place.
CEPEHDREI
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1521 Posts
November 28 2011 23:00 GMT
#3280
so why did dexter go down there? there was a table on top of that entrance to the basement or whatever u wanna call it. how is gellar supposed to go down there and move the table on top of that?

and if he isnt down there he just could lock him down there like travis will do? it feels kinda dumb.
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