I do not know why there are no topics being made on the Media section on the website would love to see more activity to be honest. I 'd like to believe there are others like me that love TV shows/movies.
So the last of us recently came out as a TV series, taken from the famous video game. If you haven't played the video game it is an AWESOME game but it's playstation exclusive so if you do not own the console go get it because the game is that good!
Wow quite a nice series. although episode 3 was a bit gay, the overall premise is enticing. Fungi are exotic as viruses are getting stale. And the corrupted new world order is a nice complication to the plot.
Furthermore, the music stayed true to the game, which I like! Had to immediately play the main theme + opening credit song on the piano for you guys!
Episode 3 was a little strange. So much character build-up for these minor characters and then they kill them off. I haven't played the games. Maybe that's what's missing to fully appreciate these small encapsulated stories.
Playing the games would help; TLoU story is largely people pursuing revenge/greed/despair and being punished for it, and in the games one of these two characters is relevant to a segment of the plot. People that played the game are waiting for and guessing at the conclusion of this arc, because it determines who Joel/Ellie interact with in the coming episodes. Bill and Frank both dying a "happy death" runs contrary to both the themes of the universe at large and upsets the expected plot structure of the next few episodes. It's definitely an engaging episode if you have the game as context, but I could see it coming across as a little strange without it!
Latest episode was great. If they continue to make each episode better than the last, they've got a certified hit on their hands. I wonder where this season ends though. I've played 1 and part of 2.
On February 07 2023 11:46 Husyelt wrote: Yeah, this show is the real deal. Excited to see how far they will stray from the source material as it goes on.
On February 07 2023 11:46 Husyelt wrote: Yeah, this show is the real deal. Excited to see how far they will stray from the source material as it goes on.
On February 07 2023 06:09 Liquid`Drone wrote: Great show. I have not played the game but thought ep3 was an absolutely fantastic piece of television.
Did you know diarrhea is hereditary? It runs in your jeans is my favorite joke now.
it was a fantastic piece of television and it would have been very highly rated for me as standalone. Personally I believe the emphasis at least right now is more human to human interaction and relation-development which unfortunately doesn't interest me as much in series.
I like character progression and relation but not with a slow take on it but rather through series. Hard to explain for me but I think Better Call Saul for example did a good job with that or Breaking Bad.
This series (obviously for me) strikes with great visuals and music, good acting and an interesting plot. I'd still rate it highly so far but the pacing is slow and the episodes for my liking a bit too eventless (for me obv).
7/10 so far. Hope to get something to pull me in as well as hoping to see more of the past and development of how it all went down. I didnt play the games so this is from someone with no knowledge of the source material
The main thing that they changed from the game is that the first game is very much on the side of conservative values, and so far the show has not been that, at all. A part of me was worried that the show would be in the same vein as the game in that regard and be effective propaganda, but for once it's legitimate to say that they "went woke". Good for them =)
On February 04 2023 03:21 Fleetfeet wrote: Playing the games would help; TLoU story is largely people pursuing revenge/greed/despair and being punished for it, and in the games one of these two characters is relevant to a segment of the plot. People that played the game are waiting for and guessing at the conclusion of this arc, because it determines who Joel/Ellie interact with in the coming episodes. Bill and Frank both dying a "happy death" runs contrary to both the themes of the universe at large and upsets the expected plot structure of the next few episodes. It's definitely an engaging episode if you have the game as context, but I could see it coming across as a little strange without it!
I see it as a good adaptation. Joel and Bill have similar personalities, and we see how they interact at the table outside Bill's house in the episode, we didn't need a full episode of that. Seeing Bill and Frank, and seeing how they lived their lives actually reminds me of how you get to read letters in the game and get glimpses on how life was for some people. Also we get to see how a stubborn man like Bill managed to get a partner in the first place. I personally think the themes of the game are survival, distrust, and unlikely relationships, which the episode fulfills.
On February 11 2023 13:41 Jubinell wrote: Ep5 was decent. Perry at the end was ... lame. And how can people drive infected underground? Infected don't really follow instructions.
Yeah, the basic idea is good, force them to live in the underground and block the holes. That makes sense. With basic doors to close and hatches to latch, sure. But (and this is a nitpick), the moment they come screaching out in unison, after no previous hints, felt very forced.
Loooooovvveddddddd for the clickers to trickle out during that scene, where the forces have to sort of deal with them as Kathleen is giving her smackdown, and then realize the shooting is not stopping, and it's inevitable. The super big shift was just cute, just not hot.
On a serious note. Excellent acting by everyone, and I love the added backstories where a direct adaptation would not have covered. It was a badass episode.
On February 11 2023 13:41 Jubinell wrote: Ep5 was decent. Perry at the end was ... lame. And how can people drive infected underground? Infected don't really follow instructions.
Yeah, the basic idea is good, force them to live in the underground and block the holes. That makes sense. With basic doors to close and hatches to latch, sure. But (and this is a nitpick), the moment they come screaching out in unison, after no previous hints, felt very forced.
Loooooovvveddddddd for the clickers to trickle out during that scene, where the forces have to sort of deal with them as Kathleen is giving her smackdown, and then realize the shooting is not stopping, and it's inevitable. The super big shift was just cute, just not hot.
On a serious note. Excellent acting by everyone, and I love the added backstories where a direct adaptation would not have covered. It was a badass episode.
There was a hint in ep4 when the two go underground and see the ground falling apart. Kathleen goes "We'll deal with this later, don't tell anyone" or something to that effect. We as the audience knew something big was down there and they weren't being honest with everyone. As for driving the infected underground,well...if you have bait...
On February 11 2023 13:41 Jubinell wrote: Ep5 was decent. Perry at the end was ... lame. And how can people drive infected underground? Infected don't really follow instructions.
Yeah, the basic idea is good, force them to live in the underground and block the holes. That makes sense. With basic doors to close and hatches to latch, sure. But (and this is a nitpick), the moment they come screaching out in unison, after no previous hints, felt very forced.
Loooooovvveddddddd for the clickers to trickle out during that scene, where the forces have to sort of deal with them as Kathleen is giving her smackdown, and then realize the shooting is not stopping, and it's inevitable. The super big shift was just cute, just not hot.
On a serious note. Excellent acting by everyone, and I love the added backstories where a direct adaptation would not have covered. It was a badass episode.
There was a hint in ep4 when the two go underground and see the ground falling apart. Kathleen goes "We'll deal with this later, don't tell anyone" or something to that effect. We as the audience knew something big was down there and they weren't being honest with everyone. As for driving the infected underground,well...if you have bait...
It does seem a little questionable. If you have the capacity to drive them underground, it's a little weird that you don't have the capacity to just kill them instead of keeping them there. And if it's not about force it's about bait or something as you suggest, well, why don't they just overpower you and take everyone instead of just taking your bait?
On February 11 2023 13:41 Jubinell wrote: Ep5 was decent. Perry at the end was ... lame. And how can people drive infected underground? Infected don't really follow instructions.
Yeah, the basic idea is good, force them to live in the underground and block the holes. That makes sense. With basic doors to close and hatches to latch, sure. But (and this is a nitpick), the moment they come screaching out in unison, after no previous hints, felt very forced.
Loooooovvveddddddd for the clickers to trickle out during that scene, where the forces have to sort of deal with them as Kathleen is giving her smackdown, and then realize the shooting is not stopping, and it's inevitable. The super big shift was just cute, just not hot.
On a serious note. Excellent acting by everyone, and I love the added backstories where a direct adaptation would not have covered. It was a badass episode.
There was a hint in ep4 when the two go underground and see the ground falling apart. Kathleen goes "We'll deal with this later, don't tell anyone" or something to that effect. We as the audience knew something big was down there and they weren't being honest with everyone. As for driving the infected underground,well...if you have bait...
It does seem a little questionable. If you have the capacity to drive them underground, it's a little weird that you don't have the capacity to just kill them instead of keeping them there. And if it's not about force it's about bait or something as you suggest, well, why don't they just overpower you and take everyone instead of just taking your bait?
Depends on when they started using live humans as bait I suppose? Say you get a few early infected? You clear them but you suddenly have a lot more. You take some undesireable or whatever and toss them in a pit. Lure the infected to the pit. Then you close the pit. Or like they suggested, you lure them into the tunnels, close the tunnels. Those places where they stopped to rest? Completely empty, no sign of struggle. Means they probably fled in a hurry when the infected were sent to attack. Then you lock that area down and then drop more people further away, drawing them deeper into the system. Rinse and repeat until you effectively have a damn good size of the city without infected because they've been trapped underground and pushed out.
I don't know how you would though, it's trying to herd zombie cats. Normal cats are already a headache. Now they're zombie cats that are only reacting on instinct. Smell a free human lunch? Fuck the danger, go feast!
Yeah, btw does anybody think the actress portraying Kathleen is kinda weak? I mean she seems like a supporting actress in a grade-B sitcom. How can anybody with such a flaky personality lead the resistance and overcome FEDRA??
On February 13 2023 14:24 Jubinell wrote: Yeah, btw does anybody think the actress portraying Kathleen is kinda weak? I mean she seems like a supporting actress in a grade-B sitcom. How can anybody with such a flaky personality lead the resistance and overcome FEDRA??
. But prior to that, I'd agree. I wouldn't call it flaky so much as she isn't the leader they needed. She was focused on revenge instead of making sure they survived. That's how the ending of Kansas City started in the show lol
On February 13 2023 14:24 Jubinell wrote: Yeah, btw does anybody think the actress portraying Kathleen is kinda weak? I mean she seems like a supporting actress in a grade-B sitcom. How can anybody with such a flaky personality lead the resistance and overcome FEDRA??
Well... she was an actress in a shitty sitcom so you aren't wrong lol.
On February 13 2023 14:24 Jubinell wrote: Yeah, btw does anybody think the actress portraying Kathleen is kinda weak? I mean she seems like a supporting actress in a grade-B sitcom. How can anybody with such a flaky personality lead the resistance and overcome FEDRA??
. But prior to that, I'd agree. I wouldn't call it flaky so much as she isn't the leader they needed. She was focused on revenge instead of making sure they survived. That's how the ending of Kansas City started in the show lol
Actually I have few problems with the character per se. I have more problems with the way the actress acted and delivered that character to us. She doesn't really portray that vengeful, hateful woman. She talks more like a grown and oversized high-school cheerleader.
On February 13 2023 14:24 Jubinell wrote: Yeah, btw does anybody think the actress portraying Kathleen is kinda weak? I mean she seems like a supporting actress in a grade-B sitcom. How can anybody with such a flaky personality lead the resistance and overcome FEDRA??
. But prior to that, I'd agree. I wouldn't call it flaky so much as she isn't the leader they needed. She was focused on revenge instead of making sure they survived. That's how the ending of Kansas City started in the show lol
Actually I have few problems with the character per se. I have more problems with the way the actress acted and delivered that character to us. She doesn't really portray that vengeful, hateful woman. She talks more like a grown and oversized high-school cheerleader.
On February 13 2023 14:24 Jubinell wrote: Yeah, btw does anybody think the actress portraying Kathleen is kinda weak? I mean she seems like a supporting actress in a grade-B sitcom. How can anybody with such a flaky personality lead the resistance and overcome FEDRA??
. But prior to that, I'd agree. I wouldn't call it flaky so much as she isn't the leader they needed. She was focused on revenge instead of making sure they survived. That's how the ending of Kansas City started in the show lol
Actually I have few problems with the character per se. I have more problems with the way the actress acted and delivered that character to us. She doesn't really portray that vengeful, hateful woman. She talks more like a grown and oversized high-school cheerleader.
I watched it in German and it doesn't help that she has the same voice as Rose from Two and a Half Men :/
One shouldn't overthink how they managed to get the infected down there, this is a typical case of simply having to buy into a plot device. I agree though that the moment of them coming all out felt a little too forced, very videogamey (i have no idea how it was done in the game, as i have not played it), but it resulted in a fairly well executed, frantic action sequence i quite enjoyed (man that little girl infected in the car, very creepy). In regards to kathleen, the juxtaposition of her demeanor and what cruelties she is capable of is the whole point, she gets shit done because her empathy levels aren't particularly high and her sense of self righteous vengence moves in one direction only despite her soft spoken nature. I think that worked, even though i think the roadmovie nature of the plot simply didn't give her much time to make me care all that much about her motivation or character. Still, having her in the antagonistic position to the 'good guys' of henry and sam added some grey elements to it anyway, henry did what he had to do to save the one person he cared for, and the act of ratting out kathleen's brother can easily be argued to be a moral wrong. It's basic, but it works. Outside of that i thought the episode was very touching, the interpersonal character moments are the highlight of the show to me, the plot is a tad bit generic, but the execution through character dynamics is excellent so far.
Digging this so far, was apprehensive going in, not knowing the games and
Hope they keep the momentum up. Favourite show I’ve watched in a while.
I tend to agree to Kathleen’s character being that juxtaposition of a capacity for terrible cruelty alongside a relatively sunny and non-threatening demeanour.
This may be influenced by recognising the actress playing a broadly similar character in The Shield mind! Also would highly recommend that.
On February 13 2023 14:24 Jubinell wrote: Yeah, btw does anybody think the actress portraying Kathleen is kinda weak? I mean she seems like a supporting actress in a grade-B sitcom. How can anybody with such a flaky personality lead the resistance and overcome FEDRA??
. But prior to that, I'd agree. I wouldn't call it flaky so much as she isn't the leader they needed. She was focused on revenge instead of making sure they survived. That's how the ending of Kansas City started in the show lol
Actually I have few problems with the character per se. I have more problems with the way the actress acted and delivered that character to us. She doesn't really portray that vengeful, hateful woman. She talks more like a grown and oversized high-school cheerleader.
I can agree with that.
I don't think it was a character problem, revenge and power always go together. It is possible the actress was not the best choice or maybe just an oversight from the casting crew. For a 20+ years of post apocalyptic world where she was part of an underground resistance group her behavior and body type don't add up. Compared to Marlene or Tess she seemed out of place.
I think what they were trying to go for with Kathleen was Laurie from Euphoria. They have the same cadence, and when a character that was supposed to be working for her, dug into her supply this is what she has to say to her (see video). I really think they were trying to channel that type of character into Kathleen, but it didn't really work, but I see where they are coming from. The creators were trying to make an unassuming looking woman, who is surprisingly cut throat, sadly in the show it looks like she only earned that position by assuming her brother's position, not form her own merits. I think it is somewhat realistic have a person that you would assume to be sweet, be the most brutal and blunt person there is, but Euphoria did it better.
They should just have called this: Walking Dead Remastered. They pretty much ripped off the entire narrative style of the Walking Dead, but Walking Dead was so boring most people I talked to didn't finish watching all 10 seasons, and I am about to give up on this show as well. I'll grant it that so far the dialogues and characters are more believable than Walking Dead, but it's still all about a long trip to nowhere. The horror aspect gets parked on the back burner after episode 1, and is never let back out.
I'm assuming that S2 will still be the first game? Cause I don't think they are even halfway through the story, right? As I have never played the games.
As for the Walking Dead comparison no way lol the story actually makes sense, and seems plausible. Plus the effects aren't half ass. That and so far, there doesn't seem to be any major plot holes made by the writers compared to the Walking Dead.
I am already losing interest, this story is going nowhere and the one thing worth exploring (different ways people survive in extreme conditions) is already out of the equation. Last 2 chapters were specially cringe and full of nonsense. It doesn't help that at each corner I feel like I am being spoon fed an agenda either. In the end the only horror in this story comes from the uninfected.
On March 05 2023 18:24 Malongo wrote: I am already losing interest, this story is going nowhere and the one thing worth exploring (different ways people survive in extreme conditions) is already out of the equation. Last 2 chapters were specially cringe and full of nonsense. It doesn't help that at each corner I feel like I am being spoon fed an agenda either. In the end the only horror in this story comes from the uninfected.
And what agenda would that be? Apologies but that just doesn't make any sense? They show 2 gay episodes about VASTLY different reasons and endings and how they affected the main protags, and you think there's an agenda?
And that's the whole draw of TLoU. The uninfected are the horror. People doing terrible shit to survive. Only classic zombie films just shot hordes of them at you. These types of games are more psychological. They could go for the jump scare, but that's too easy. I'm not saying the show is perfect, it could definitely use more Clickers and I want to see more of the amazing costumes. But I also don't want Walking Dead 2.0 or Left 4 Dead: The Game.
Again, there's no agenda they are trying to shove down your throat. They could make it a lot worse in that regard, easily.
Some people are just trapped in their extremely conservative *cough* homophobic *cough* world view, any depiction which goes against heteronormativity at all is 'an agenda' being pushed. Quite sad that this is a talking point in 2023, but here we are. With that out of the way, i think the show itself has a plot which is very familiar / kinda generic, BUT the interhuman relationships it portrays are well developed and quite potent in their emotional resonance. That is why i keep watching, because i think the show does a lot of things right in depicting joel and ellie who both lose their defense mechanisms little by little, creating a father daughter relationship in a world where human connection is probably the only reason to even keep living. Is that simple? Sure, but it's imo the core of any good story, 'the human heart in conflict with itself'. Some people want zombie action (and tbf, i think it could deliver at leas a little more of that, or the threat level at the very least), and the show isn't really interested in that too much outside of using it for the psychological effects it has on these characters. TWD was a lot different, that was pure genre, TLOU is a human drama in a genre setting.
I don't know why everybody is praising episode 8. Yes the plot twists and coincidences are nice. There are some gory scenes and shocking revelations, but to me it's just like putting different spices together, mixing them hard and expecting something ultra-delicious coming out of them... It doesn't work like that. The developments of the town's characters' personalities felt rush. How did the father become the man he is?
There were also some plot holes. How did the father (and Joel) arrive back at the town so quickly! Can Joel who is mortally wounded seriously take down 3 men with just knives and sticks?? When Joel arrives at the town, where the hell is everybody??
On March 06 2023 23:56 Jubinell wrote: I don't know why everybody is praising episode 8. Yes the plot twists and coincidences are nice. There are some gory scenes and shocking revelations, but to me it's just like putting different spices together, mixing them hard and expecting something ultra-delicious coming out of them... It doesn't work like that. The developments of the town's characters' personalities felt rush. How did the father become the man he is?
There were also some plot holes. How did the father (and Joel) arrive back at the town so quickly! Can Joel who is mortally wounded seriously take down 3 men with just knives and sticks?? When Joel arrives at the town, where the hell is everybody??
Remember they have a limited number of episodes and a set amount of time. Some things get rushed. At a good clip, you can do 4 miles in 2 hours if not sooner. Joel was probably around that time. Not everything happened immediately one after the other. Joel probably had 6 hours to get there. The father probably got there in 2 hours walking with Ellie. Joel taking down 3 guys with a knife and stick is plausible. He's rushing on adrenaline at that point. And he's done and seen more than those 3 combined, so I'm sure he'd be able to take them by surprise. And I assume everyone in the town is locked away trying not to freeze and conserve energy? They don't have much food to eat. What's the point of exerting yourself and hurrying your hunger?
On March 07 2023 08:25 maybenexttime wrote: I'm pretty sure it wasn't 4 miles away. The cult leader said it was 4 miles so that Ellie wouldn't expect the other guy to be back so quickly.
On March 07 2023 08:25 maybenexttime wrote: I'm pretty sure it wasn't 4 miles away. The cult leader said it was 4 miles so that Ellie wouldn't expect the other guy to be back so quickly.
I was waiting for the cannibal cult episode since the show was announced. Maybe didn’t live up to my personal levels of hype, but a damn good episode. Looking forward to the finale, I hope it can do the game justice.
On March 07 2023 08:25 maybenexttime wrote: I'm pretty sure it wasn't 4 miles away. The cult leader said it was 4 miles so that Ellie wouldn't expect the other guy to be back so quickly.
I might be misremembering, but I think I remember seeing the lake close by to the shelter Ellie and that guy were staying in. The resort they are at is by that lake, because of the guy who points on the map with the knife. So yeah it is likely closer than what he said. But Joel did have plot armor
Definitely did dig it, as with almost every show I’ve seen in the past decade the pacing feels very inconsistent and off.
From quite a slow burn revealing the world, the main characters with a detour or two into introducing us to new characters and fleshing things out within an episode.
On the flip side we had arcs like the cannibal nut, as well as the last episode which really zipped past and maybe needed a little room to breathe.
But hey, overall was pretty damn good by my estimation.
The show ended up being ok but extremely rushed imo. When everything else around is terrible it's not so hard to be good and this one hardly deserves a rewatch.
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