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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-03 17:21:30
April 03 2019 17:18 GMT
#1
We finally have a trailer, but also a release date of October 4th. Keep in mind this is under the Elseworld Universe/King of Comedy, thus the failed comedian angle and not Nolan's ex CIA/Psychological ops soldier gone crazy. Also note the young Bruce Wayne. The laugh sold it for me.



In 1981, a failed stand-up comedian, disregarded by his society, turns to a life of crime and chaos in Gotham City.
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13926 Posts
April 03 2019 18:45 GMT
#2
I'm legitmatly interested in this. It does seem to be more on the vein of Nolans "superheroes with no superpowers" gritty realness instead of the depressing mess that snyders DC universe ended out to be.

Its just a movie with a one off idea of a joker origin. I have room for this.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 03 2019 19:51 GMT
#3
looks more like birdman than a classic superhero movie
ill probably watch it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10655 Posts
April 03 2019 20:15 GMT
#4
Looks a lot closer to Man of Steel than the other slew of junk DC has spewed out lately. I’m hoping it wasn’t just “movie trailer magic” that made me genuinely interested in this one.
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byte-Curious
Profile Joined October 2018
Mexico107 Posts
April 04 2019 09:15 GMT
#5
Before the trailer: I have zero interest in ever watching this.
After the trailer: I might get it as a DVDrip.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
April 05 2019 09:22 GMT
#6
I hope its revealed his mother's name is Martha. I'd also have to imagine he's going to use his "One bad day" speech from Killing Joke at the end of the movie.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-05 11:15:57
April 05 2019 11:10 GMT
#7
martha :D ahahahahahha !! that's not going away anytime soon ahahahahhahahahahahahaha

+1 will watch da flick, genuinely addicted to good actors performing good scripts <3

.. for good directors (??)
Anyone else intrigued why a book would not feature its creator's monogram on the cover/poster?

i will see it for sure however, so many movie trailers ended up with movies so disappointing in the past (particularly with the scripts)
that i have to play the old frankenfurter from transexueltransulvania and say that we might well be "Caught with a flat?! .. "

[image loading]

" .. Well how about that!!!"
"not enough rights"
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10126 Posts
April 05 2019 11:29 GMT
#8
To be honest, it will be hard to surpass the fight clubt as the joker's origin.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2538 Posts
April 10 2019 21:04 GMT
#9
It seems like people have an attention span of a goldfish nowadays. How many jokers have we had in the past few years? Three? We also have had like 3 spider mans and 2 super mans and 2 batmans. And then there's the never ending Marvel movies. God I hate superheroes, they are just so boring. Also...

GAMERS RISE UP!!!!

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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
April 11 2019 01:38 GMT
#10
I personally don't mind, as long there are good movies and they're exploring different things. Into the Spiderverse has convinced me I'd actually to see more as long they're super cool.

This Joker seems to be a completely different tone than anything we've seen so far.And it doesn't look like its connected with the DCU?
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
April 11 2019 02:52 GMT
#11
It's the equivalent of an Elseworlds spin-off. This Joker won't appear in the DC cinematic universe.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-11 12:05:49
April 11 2019 11:39 GMT
#12
On April 11 2019 06:04 Hyperbola wrote:

GAMERS RISE UP!!!!

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[image loading]


Heh, "The First Gamer" on this list is like the "New School" for me. All the others are pretty much infants still...

About the movie itself I have pretty high hopes for it. Joker is an interesting character that can be portrayed in many ways and I kind of like the vibe this movie gives me. We'll have to wait and see.

Also, I'd totally love it if they did more of the villain origin stories/movies to counter-balance all the hero crap we have going on nowadays (usually villains are more interesting personalities than heroes).

Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-11 12:29:51
April 11 2019 12:25 GMT
#13
It feels like this is what happens when Commodus reincarnates in the 21st century after having to live two millennia with the shame of being killed in the arena by a wounded Maximus lol

Phoenix carried that movie hard and he will carry this one too it seems, amazing trailer. I'm not sure what it's gonna be though, is it a sympathy movie for the Joker? Is this trailer like only the first 20mins, or is this pretty much the whole movie?
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
April 11 2019 14:07 GMT
#14
On April 11 2019 21:25 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
It feels like this is what happens when Commodus reincarnates in the 21st century after having to live two millennia with the shame of being killed in the arena by a wounded Maximus lol

Phoenix carried that movie hard and he will carry this one too it seems, amazing trailer. I'm not sure what it's gonna be though, is it a sympathy movie for the Joker? Is this trailer like only the first 20mins, or is this pretty much the whole movie?


Low budget, heavily improvised character study is pretty much all that we know so far.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-06 13:09:19
October 06 2019 13:08 GMT
#15
Giving this thread a bump seeing as it released a couple of days ago, thought it was very good film but not what I expected going into it. Very dark very violent at times and it is very much an origin story, its all about Arthur and not the Joker until the end if that makes any sense.
TropicalHaze
Profile Joined May 2014
Finland56 Posts
October 06 2019 13:55 GMT
#16
Yeah the comments here seem pretty cynical in hindsight. Phoenix is an Oscar contender.
The eyelashes like umbrellas when it rains from the heart
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44122 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-06 15:29:49
October 06 2019 15:29 GMT
#17
I had a blast watching it. It was pretty damn good.

Besides they somehow managed to link the birth of joker and batman in the storyline at the same time. That was impressive(which i didn't expect at all .. i really expected it to be just a beautiful rendition of a joker movie)
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-06 15:46:25
October 06 2019 15:30 GMT
#18
Went to see it, Phoenix performance is amazing, but the movie didn't quite click completely with me.
I still enjoy the film, but I'm not sure it needed to be a joker story. The cinematography was great, and the angle taken was very interesting and a good depiction of mental illness although it was meandering a bit and Arthur never quite click as the joker for me.

But most of all as the saying goes "why so serious?". The social commentary is a bit too much on the nose + Show Spoiler +
His speech on TV made me cringe and he literally get punch in the face by the 1%
and Arthur goes to a never ending amount of shit situations, but he never seem to quite seem to get what's funny about it, even at the end he's more sinister than playfull. It seems to be an origin story for a serial killer more than the "clown prince".

Still it's very much worth going to see it, it is a very good depiction of someone going mad and it's a welcome breath of fresh air in the superhero genre.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28665 Posts
October 06 2019 15:52 GMT
#19
Fantastic performance by Phoenix, and a great movie overall. Hardly has anything to do with superheroes, being 'fed up' with superhero movies is no reason to avoid this one. It has more in common with say, Taxi Driver than with.. any actual superhero movie I've seen.
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13005 Posts
October 07 2019 08:31 GMT
#20
I liked it. Didn’t get all the pearl clutching about this movie from many critics. People are a bit over sensitive about these things and try read too much into them IMO.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
October 08 2019 14:02 GMT
#21
On October 07 2019 00:52 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Fantastic performance by Phoenix, and a great movie overall. Hardly has anything to do with superheroes, being 'fed up' with superhero movies is no reason to avoid this one. It has more in common with say, Taxi Driver than with.. any actual superhero movie I've seen.


I share the sentiment. It's a great movie all on its own.

I really like how they managed to make such a good movie with little budget. Music and scenography in it are phenomenal and Phoenix's performance is nothing short of stellar.

If you like heavy, character driven slow burner movies this is the one for you. If you expect a lot of action and over the top stuff you might want to steer clear of it.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25283 Posts
October 09 2019 13:26 GMT
#22
Actually pretty interested in seeing this, I try to remain as unspoiled as possible but it sounds like a proper film and character study, and Joaquin Phoenix does tend to do work that’s interesting at the least.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
October 09 2019 14:55 GMT
#23
On October 07 2019 00:52 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Fantastic performance by Phoenix, and a great movie overall. Hardly has anything to do with superheroes, being 'fed up' with superhero movies is no reason to avoid this one. It has more in common with say, Taxi Driver than with.. any actual superhero movie I've seen.

Damn I pretty much fit straight into the category of people fed up with superhero movies, might need to see this one.
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redlightdistrict
Profile Joined October 2018
382 Posts
October 09 2019 21:34 GMT
#24
I think Robert DeNiro being cast in this movie was deliberate tip of the hat to Taxi Driver because the Joker's performance is the Taxi Driver of our generation. I cant think of any other reason they would decide to cast bob for the role other than to play homage.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
October 15 2019 11:49 GMT
#25
Just watched this, and i'm also currently watching Mr. Robot series and I can see lots of similarity between the two.

Pretty good movie and really nice performance of Joaquin Phoenix.
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1927 Posts
October 15 2019 14:31 GMT
#26
Saw it a few days ago and liked it quite a bit. I felt like it was a pretty straightforward film for the most of it and a good one at that, but maybe that lack of subtlety and ambiguity also holds it from being any kind of masterpiece or absolute classic. Still, I liked it a lot, which is a high praise on my rating system.

There's also some very curious and more ambigious stuff about + Show Spoiler +
which parts are Arthur's imagination and which actually happened
and that'll make next viewing more interesting, but I'm not sure if it alone muddies the waters enough for my tastes.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-15 18:19:39
October 15 2019 18:19 GMT
#27
Pretty good movie. Worth watching for Joaquin alone. The fact that + Show Spoiler +
my friend and I walked out disagreeing about whether he ended up killing the "love interest"
means it has a bit more nuance than I thought during the viewing itself.
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1927 Posts
October 15 2019 19:00 GMT
#28
On October 16 2019 03:19 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Pretty good movie. Worth watching for Joaquin alone. The fact that + Show Spoiler +
my friend and I walked out disagreeing about whether he ended up killing the "love interest"
means it has a bit more nuance than I thought during the viewing itself.

My initial read on that one was + Show Spoiler +
Arthur only got violent whenever he felt betrayed or threatened and nothing we saw indicated that here. I feel like it was the same case as it was with Gary the short clown. There was some police siren on the background afterwards too, but nothing seemed to come out of that either.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
October 15 2019 22:03 GMT
#29
+ Show Spoiler +
I didn't get the sense that he had killed her when I was watching it, I think the death would have been raised either by the police or he would have admitted to that one too if she was killed.
Darkness2k11
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Chile313 Posts
October 16 2019 02:28 GMT
#30
I thought it was a great movie, I highly enjoyed watching it, specially the score, + Show Spoiler +
the music reminded me of The Dark Knight, but kind of twisted
.

My mom loved it so much that we went back a second time.

+ Show Spoiler +
Something that resonated with me a lot as a med student was how Arthur had noone to turn to when in need (because of his mental condition), no friends and no social services available, it's something that happens a lot here in Chile. There is a big stigma against mental illness and how you are supposed to "tough it up" when going through tough times or hardships, despite that quite often people end up developing actual mental disorders that require some form of therapy.


When Behind, Dark Shrine
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10126 Posts
October 17 2019 09:10 GMT
#31
On October 10 2019 06:34 redlightdistrict wrote:
I think Robert DeNiro being cast in this movie was deliberate tip of the hat to Taxi Driver because the Joker's performance is the Taxi Driver of our generation. I cant think of any other reason they would decide to cast bob for the role other than to play homage.
And The king of comedy.
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