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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-19 06:38:39
September 19 2013 06:37 GMT
#15301
On September 19 2013 15:26 Sharkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 14:31 Sotoshi wrote:
On September 19 2013 14:25 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 13:48 Sotoshi wrote:
On September 19 2013 13:40 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga.


I disagree with your opinions. But in order to have a civilized discussion could you expand on them, as I wouldn't want to misconstrue them. Please back up them up with evidence (manga pages or by Kishimoto).

If you don't want to provide justification for you opinions, just ignore this post.

I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic person by being toxic just incites that person to be even worse--it also ruins the situation for everyone else. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all the time than it is to watch 1 person ranting into blank space. Almost everyone can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our fellow man. What people often don't realize is... those other people that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those people were jailed. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be jailed. It's really that simple.


I agree on some levels that using retaliation on someone isn't always the best method. But lets look at the facts

Obito was in charge of a secret organization: Akatsuki
Akatsuki's goals were to infiltrate towns and steal jinchuuriki (kidnapping)
Akatsuki would then extract the tailed beast from the jinchuuriki by killing them (killing)
Obito and his minions went to meeting of the Kages and declared war on them (war for the specific reason of kidnapping and killing the remaining jinchuuriki)
Obito used his armies to kill a vast number of ninjas
He then wants to create a 'matrix' world where everyone does not live in reality

From what I understand from your post. You don't seem to base your argument on the manga but more on philosophy and the moral code. Which you are entitled too, it just seems weird that you are posting this in a Naruto thread without referencing the manga to prove your opinions.

Do you want the Naruto Universe to report Obito and move on? What do you think is the moral thing to do for Naruto and company?



I'm going to trust, y'know, data, experience, and the degree over some random mad poster, thanks much.


A wise poster once said:
Show nested quote +
If you cant refute my points please don't bother posting. This thread is for intelligent people that know how to construct a proper argument.

I think this applies to you in this situation. I don't have a problem if you are a troll (you are hilarious, imo) but if you are not I just don't understand why you are not listening to this sage advice. I ask you questions, you respond with your subjective opinions without any sources. I think you have some wisdom in your replies you are just not explaining your arguments in a way that would continue a constructive conversation. Also no name calling^^


You're expecting a troll to argue in a constructive manner and provide sources? lol. You had a well thought out post and he literally typed "herp derp you mad" as a response.

He created his account today for the sole purpose of trying to have at it in this thread and see how many people he can bother.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Sotoshi
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom24 Posts
September 19 2013 06:39 GMT
#15302
On September 19 2013 15:37 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 15:26 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 14:31 Sotoshi wrote:
On September 19 2013 14:25 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 13:48 Sotoshi wrote:
On September 19 2013 13:40 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga.


I disagree with your opinions. But in order to have a civilized discussion could you expand on them, as I wouldn't want to misconstrue them. Please back up them up with evidence (manga pages or by Kishimoto).

If you don't want to provide justification for you opinions, just ignore this post.

I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic person by being toxic just incites that person to be even worse--it also ruins the situation for everyone else. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all the time than it is to watch 1 person ranting into blank space. Almost everyone can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our fellow man. What people often don't realize is... those other people that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those people were jailed. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be jailed. It's really that simple.


I agree on some levels that using retaliation on someone isn't always the best method. But lets look at the facts

Obito was in charge of a secret organization: Akatsuki
Akatsuki's goals were to infiltrate towns and steal jinchuuriki (kidnapping)
Akatsuki would then extract the tailed beast from the jinchuuriki by killing them (killing)
Obito and his minions went to meeting of the Kages and declared war on them (war for the specific reason of kidnapping and killing the remaining jinchuuriki)
Obito used his armies to kill a vast number of ninjas
He then wants to create a 'matrix' world where everyone does not live in reality

From what I understand from your post. You don't seem to base your argument on the manga but more on philosophy and the moral code. Which you are entitled too, it just seems weird that you are posting this in a Naruto thread without referencing the manga to prove your opinions.

Do you want the Naruto Universe to report Obito and move on? What do you think is the moral thing to do for Naruto and company?



I'm going to trust, y'know, data, experience, and the degree over some random mad poster, thanks much.


A wise poster once said:
If you cant refute my points please don't bother posting. This thread is for intelligent people that know how to construct a proper argument.

I think this applies to you in this situation. I don't have a problem if you are a troll (you are hilarious, imo) but if you are not I just don't understand why you are not listening to this sage advice. I ask you questions, you respond with your subjective opinions without any sources. I think you have some wisdom in your replies you are just not explaining your arguments in a way that would continue a constructive conversation. Also no name calling^^


You're expecting a troll to argue in a constructive manner and provide sources? lol. You had a well thought out post and he literally typed "herp derp you mad" as a response.

He created his account today for the sole purpose of trying to have at it in this thread and see how many people he can bother.

Terrible argument.

That's like blaming jails in real life for why society is being worst when there are many other factors that contribute.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10158 Posts
September 19 2013 06:40 GMT
#15303
You guys are feeding the troll lol
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 19 2013 06:45 GMT
#15304
On September 19 2013 15:40 Jealous wrote:
You guys are feeding the troll lol

lol ya, also feeding him in the other blizzard design thread XD
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6286 Posts
September 19 2013 06:49 GMT
#15305
On September 19 2013 15:39 Sotoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 15:37 Zooper31 wrote:
On September 19 2013 15:26 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 14:31 Sotoshi wrote:
On September 19 2013 14:25 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 13:48 Sotoshi wrote:
On September 19 2013 13:40 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga.


I disagree with your opinions. But in order to have a civilized discussion could you expand on them, as I wouldn't want to misconstrue them. Please back up them up with evidence (manga pages or by Kishimoto).

If you don't want to provide justification for you opinions, just ignore this post.

I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic person by being toxic just incites that person to be even worse--it also ruins the situation for everyone else. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all the time than it is to watch 1 person ranting into blank space. Almost everyone can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our fellow man. What people often don't realize is... those other people that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those people were jailed. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be jailed. It's really that simple.


I agree on some levels that using retaliation on someone isn't always the best method. But lets look at the facts

Obito was in charge of a secret organization: Akatsuki
Akatsuki's goals were to infiltrate towns and steal jinchuuriki (kidnapping)
Akatsuki would then extract the tailed beast from the jinchuuriki by killing them (killing)
Obito and his minions went to meeting of the Kages and declared war on them (war for the specific reason of kidnapping and killing the remaining jinchuuriki)
Obito used his armies to kill a vast number of ninjas
He then wants to create a 'matrix' world where everyone does not live in reality

From what I understand from your post. You don't seem to base your argument on the manga but more on philosophy and the moral code. Which you are entitled too, it just seems weird that you are posting this in a Naruto thread without referencing the manga to prove your opinions.

Do you want the Naruto Universe to report Obito and move on? What do you think is the moral thing to do for Naruto and company?



I'm going to trust, y'know, data, experience, and the degree over some random mad poster, thanks much.


A wise poster once said:
If you cant refute my points please don't bother posting. This thread is for intelligent people that know how to construct a proper argument.

I think this applies to you in this situation. I don't have a problem if you are a troll (you are hilarious, imo) but if you are not I just don't understand why you are not listening to this sage advice. I ask you questions, you respond with your subjective opinions without any sources. I think you have some wisdom in your replies you are just not explaining your arguments in a way that would continue a constructive conversation. Also no name calling^^


You're expecting a troll to argue in a constructive manner and provide sources? lol. You had a well thought out post and he literally typed "herp derp you mad" as a response.

He created his account today for the sole purpose of trying to have at it in this thread and see how many people he can bother.

Terrible argument.

That's like blaming jails in real life for why society is being worst when there are many other factors that contribute.

Question. Is there any mention of jails in the Naruto universe?
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
WonnaPlay
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands912 Posts
September 19 2013 06:49 GMT
#15306
I just can't believe that I totally forgot about Squared eyes Naruto!
At first when I saw the eyes here ; http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/647/17
I thought I had seen it before, but couldn't place it.

How would I totally miss something so important! It even starts so pretty obvious with the kyuubi on the next picture.
http://www.mangareader.net/93-449-4/naruto/chapter-444.html

By coincidence I'm reading the complete manga again on the way to work (already busy for about 2-3 months now) and arrived at this chapter today, after reading the new manga yesterday lol
WonnaPlay
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands912 Posts
September 19 2013 06:51 GMT
#15307
On September 19 2013 15:49 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 15:39 Sotoshi wrote:
On September 19 2013 15:37 Zooper31 wrote:
On September 19 2013 15:26 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 14:31 Sotoshi wrote:
On September 19 2013 14:25 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 13:48 Sotoshi wrote:
On September 19 2013 13:40 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga.


I disagree with your opinions. But in order to have a civilized discussion could you expand on them, as I wouldn't want to misconstrue them. Please back up them up with evidence (manga pages or by Kishimoto).

If you don't want to provide justification for you opinions, just ignore this post.

I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic person by being toxic just incites that person to be even worse--it also ruins the situation for everyone else. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all the time than it is to watch 1 person ranting into blank space. Almost everyone can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our fellow man. What people often don't realize is... those other people that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those people were jailed. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be jailed. It's really that simple.


I agree on some levels that using retaliation on someone isn't always the best method. But lets look at the facts

Obito was in charge of a secret organization: Akatsuki
Akatsuki's goals were to infiltrate towns and steal jinchuuriki (kidnapping)
Akatsuki would then extract the tailed beast from the jinchuuriki by killing them (killing)
Obito and his minions went to meeting of the Kages and declared war on them (war for the specific reason of kidnapping and killing the remaining jinchuuriki)
Obito used his armies to kill a vast number of ninjas
He then wants to create a 'matrix' world where everyone does not live in reality

From what I understand from your post. You don't seem to base your argument on the manga but more on philosophy and the moral code. Which you are entitled too, it just seems weird that you are posting this in a Naruto thread without referencing the manga to prove your opinions.

Do you want the Naruto Universe to report Obito and move on? What do you think is the moral thing to do for Naruto and company?



I'm going to trust, y'know, data, experience, and the degree over some random mad poster, thanks much.


A wise poster once said:
If you cant refute my points please don't bother posting. This thread is for intelligent people that know how to construct a proper argument.

I think this applies to you in this situation. I don't have a problem if you are a troll (you are hilarious, imo) but if you are not I just don't understand why you are not listening to this sage advice. I ask you questions, you respond with your subjective opinions without any sources. I think you have some wisdom in your replies you are just not explaining your arguments in a way that would continue a constructive conversation. Also no name calling^^


You're expecting a troll to argue in a constructive manner and provide sources? lol. You had a well thought out post and he literally typed "herp derp you mad" as a response.

He created his account today for the sole purpose of trying to have at it in this thread and see how many people he can bother.

Terrible argument.

That's like blaming jails in real life for why society is being worst when there are many other factors that contribute.

Question. Is there any mention of jails in the Naruto universe?


Kimimaro was in jail for aprox. his whole youth.
The 3 Uchiha members who oppose Itachi at one moment mention that they will arrest him and take him to jail.
Orochimaru has had 1000's of "holding cells" (i know, not jail).
The most other criminals we have seen either die, or roam free all their lives because of their strength. But jails have deffinetly been mentioned ^_^
Sotoshi
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom24 Posts
September 19 2013 06:52 GMT
#15308
On September 19 2013 15:49 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 15:39 Sotoshi wrote:
On September 19 2013 15:37 Zooper31 wrote:
On September 19 2013 15:26 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 14:31 Sotoshi wrote:
On September 19 2013 14:25 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 13:48 Sotoshi wrote:
On September 19 2013 13:40 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga.


I disagree with your opinions. But in order to have a civilized discussion could you expand on them, as I wouldn't want to misconstrue them. Please back up them up with evidence (manga pages or by Kishimoto).

If you don't want to provide justification for you opinions, just ignore this post.

I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic person by being toxic just incites that person to be even worse--it also ruins the situation for everyone else. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all the time than it is to watch 1 person ranting into blank space. Almost everyone can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our fellow man. What people often don't realize is... those other people that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those people were jailed. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be jailed. It's really that simple.


I agree on some levels that using retaliation on someone isn't always the best method. But lets look at the facts

Obito was in charge of a secret organization: Akatsuki
Akatsuki's goals were to infiltrate towns and steal jinchuuriki (kidnapping)
Akatsuki would then extract the tailed beast from the jinchuuriki by killing them (killing)
Obito and his minions went to meeting of the Kages and declared war on them (war for the specific reason of kidnapping and killing the remaining jinchuuriki)
Obito used his armies to kill a vast number of ninjas
He then wants to create a 'matrix' world where everyone does not live in reality

From what I understand from your post. You don't seem to base your argument on the manga but more on philosophy and the moral code. Which you are entitled too, it just seems weird that you are posting this in a Naruto thread without referencing the manga to prove your opinions.

Do you want the Naruto Universe to report Obito and move on? What do you think is the moral thing to do for Naruto and company?



I'm going to trust, y'know, data, experience, and the degree over some random mad poster, thanks much.


A wise poster once said:
If you cant refute my points please don't bother posting. This thread is for intelligent people that know how to construct a proper argument.

I think this applies to you in this situation. I don't have a problem if you are a troll (you are hilarious, imo) but if you are not I just don't understand why you are not listening to this sage advice. I ask you questions, you respond with your subjective opinions without any sources. I think you have some wisdom in your replies you are just not explaining your arguments in a way that would continue a constructive conversation. Also no name calling^^


You're expecting a troll to argue in a constructive manner and provide sources? lol. You had a well thought out post and he literally typed "herp derp you mad" as a response.

He created his account today for the sole purpose of trying to have at it in this thread and see how many people he can bother.

Terrible argument.

That's like blaming jails in real life for why society is being worst when there are many other factors that contribute.

Question. Is there any mention of jails in the Naruto universe?


Yes. You can get sealed by the demon god. Sarutobi tried this on orochimaru. Do you even read this manga? seriously drop the white knighting here and see that the guy clearly doesn't care about the naruto series
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 19 2013 06:57 GMT
#15309
On September 19 2013 15:49 WonnaPlay wrote:
I just can't believe that I totally forgot about Squared eyes Naruto!
At first when I saw the eyes here ; http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/647/17
I thought I had seen it before, but couldn't place it.

How would I totally miss something so important! It even starts so pretty obvious with the kyuubi on the next picture.
http://www.mangareader.net/93-449-4/naruto/chapter-444.html

By coincidence I'm reading the complete manga again on the way to work (already busy for about 2-3 months now) and arrived at this chapter today, after reading the new manga yesterday lol


well kurama himself mentioned it like 5 chapters ago when they perfected sae+kyubi mode...
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6286 Posts
September 19 2013 07:17 GMT
#15310
On September 19 2013 15:51 WonnaPlay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 15:49 zeo wrote:
On September 19 2013 15:39 Sotoshi wrote:
On September 19 2013 15:37 Zooper31 wrote:
On September 19 2013 15:26 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 14:31 Sotoshi wrote:
On September 19 2013 14:25 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 13:48 Sotoshi wrote:
On September 19 2013 13:40 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga.


I disagree with your opinions. But in order to have a civilized discussion could you expand on them, as I wouldn't want to misconstrue them. Please back up them up with evidence (manga pages or by Kishimoto).

If you don't want to provide justification for you opinions, just ignore this post.

I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic person by being toxic just incites that person to be even worse--it also ruins the situation for everyone else. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all the time than it is to watch 1 person ranting into blank space. Almost everyone can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our fellow man. What people often don't realize is... those other people that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those people were jailed. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be jailed. It's really that simple.


I agree on some levels that using retaliation on someone isn't always the best method. But lets look at the facts

Obito was in charge of a secret organization: Akatsuki
Akatsuki's goals were to infiltrate towns and steal jinchuuriki (kidnapping)
Akatsuki would then extract the tailed beast from the jinchuuriki by killing them (killing)
Obito and his minions went to meeting of the Kages and declared war on them (war for the specific reason of kidnapping and killing the remaining jinchuuriki)
Obito used his armies to kill a vast number of ninjas
He then wants to create a 'matrix' world where everyone does not live in reality

From what I understand from your post. You don't seem to base your argument on the manga but more on philosophy and the moral code. Which you are entitled too, it just seems weird that you are posting this in a Naruto thread without referencing the manga to prove your opinions.

Do you want the Naruto Universe to report Obito and move on? What do you think is the moral thing to do for Naruto and company?



I'm going to trust, y'know, data, experience, and the degree over some random mad poster, thanks much.


A wise poster once said:
If you cant refute my points please don't bother posting. This thread is for intelligent people that know how to construct a proper argument.

I think this applies to you in this situation. I don't have a problem if you are a troll (you are hilarious, imo) but if you are not I just don't understand why you are not listening to this sage advice. I ask you questions, you respond with your subjective opinions without any sources. I think you have some wisdom in your replies you are just not explaining your arguments in a way that would continue a constructive conversation. Also no name calling^^


You're expecting a troll to argue in a constructive manner and provide sources? lol. You had a well thought out post and he literally typed "herp derp you mad" as a response.

He created his account today for the sole purpose of trying to have at it in this thread and see how many people he can bother.

Terrible argument.

That's like blaming jails in real life for why society is being worst when there are many other factors that contribute.

Question. Is there any mention of jails in the Naruto universe?


Kimimaro was in jail for aprox. his whole youth.
The 3 Uchiha members who oppose Itachi at one moment mention that they will arrest him and take him to jail.
Orochimaru has had 1000's of "holding cells" (i know, not jail).
The most other criminals we have seen either die, or roam free all their lives because of their strength. But jails have deffinetly been mentioned ^_^

Ok, thanks. I was just thinking, its been ages since Naruto has been on a mission, but I couldn't remember if any S or A class criminals were ever caught and taken to something like a jail. Seems like most ninjas that are in the bingo book have a kill on site thingy, nobody gets taken alive in this series.
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
sacade
Profile Joined January 2013
166 Posts
September 19 2013 07:28 GMT
#15311
Karin was in jail.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 19 2013 14:25 GMT
#15312
On September 19 2013 15:49 zeo wrote:
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On September 19 2013 15:39 Sotoshi wrote:
On September 19 2013 15:37 Zooper31 wrote:
On September 19 2013 15:26 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 14:31 Sotoshi wrote:
On September 19 2013 14:25 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 13:48 Sotoshi wrote:
On September 19 2013 13:40 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga.


I disagree with your opinions. But in order to have a civilized discussion could you expand on them, as I wouldn't want to misconstrue them. Please back up them up with evidence (manga pages or by Kishimoto).

If you don't want to provide justification for you opinions, just ignore this post.

I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic person by being toxic just incites that person to be even worse--it also ruins the situation for everyone else. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all the time than it is to watch 1 person ranting into blank space. Almost everyone can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our fellow man. What people often don't realize is... those other people that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those people were jailed. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be jailed. It's really that simple.


I agree on some levels that using retaliation on someone isn't always the best method. But lets look at the facts

Obito was in charge of a secret organization: Akatsuki
Akatsuki's goals were to infiltrate towns and steal jinchuuriki (kidnapping)
Akatsuki would then extract the tailed beast from the jinchuuriki by killing them (killing)
Obito and his minions went to meeting of the Kages and declared war on them (war for the specific reason of kidnapping and killing the remaining jinchuuriki)
Obito used his armies to kill a vast number of ninjas
He then wants to create a 'matrix' world where everyone does not live in reality

From what I understand from your post. You don't seem to base your argument on the manga but more on philosophy and the moral code. Which you are entitled too, it just seems weird that you are posting this in a Naruto thread without referencing the manga to prove your opinions.

Do you want the Naruto Universe to report Obito and move on? What do you think is the moral thing to do for Naruto and company?



I'm going to trust, y'know, data, experience, and the degree over some random mad poster, thanks much.


A wise poster once said:
If you cant refute my points please don't bother posting. This thread is for intelligent people that know how to construct a proper argument.

I think this applies to you in this situation. I don't have a problem if you are a troll (you are hilarious, imo) but if you are not I just don't understand why you are not listening to this sage advice. I ask you questions, you respond with your subjective opinions without any sources. I think you have some wisdom in your replies you are just not explaining your arguments in a way that would continue a constructive conversation. Also no name calling^^


You're expecting a troll to argue in a constructive manner and provide sources? lol. You had a well thought out post and he literally typed "herp derp you mad" as a response.

He created his account today for the sole purpose of trying to have at it in this thread and see how many people he can bother.

Terrible argument.

That's like blaming jails in real life for why society is being worst when there are many other factors that contribute.

Question. Is there any mention of jails in the Naruto universe?

why have a police force if you have no jail?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 19 2013 14:35 GMT
#15313
I've gotten so used to updates today, not too much earlier from now lol. It's almost disconcerting how much of a difference reading a chapter two days early makes.

I'm probably autistic or something.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6286 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-19 16:33:32
September 19 2013 16:33 GMT
#15314
On September 19 2013 23:25 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 15:49 zeo wrote:
On September 19 2013 15:39 Sotoshi wrote:
On September 19 2013 15:37 Zooper31 wrote:
On September 19 2013 15:26 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 14:31 Sotoshi wrote:
On September 19 2013 14:25 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 13:48 Sotoshi wrote:
On September 19 2013 13:40 Sharkey wrote:
On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga.


I disagree with your opinions. But in order to have a civilized discussion could you expand on them, as I wouldn't want to misconstrue them. Please back up them up with evidence (manga pages or by Kishimoto).

If you don't want to provide justification for you opinions, just ignore this post.

I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic person by being toxic just incites that person to be even worse--it also ruins the situation for everyone else. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all the time than it is to watch 1 person ranting into blank space. Almost everyone can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our fellow man. What people often don't realize is... those other people that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those people were jailed. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be jailed. It's really that simple.


I agree on some levels that using retaliation on someone isn't always the best method. But lets look at the facts

Obito was in charge of a secret organization: Akatsuki
Akatsuki's goals were to infiltrate towns and steal jinchuuriki (kidnapping)
Akatsuki would then extract the tailed beast from the jinchuuriki by killing them (killing)
Obito and his minions went to meeting of the Kages and declared war on them (war for the specific reason of kidnapping and killing the remaining jinchuuriki)
Obito used his armies to kill a vast number of ninjas
He then wants to create a 'matrix' world where everyone does not live in reality

From what I understand from your post. You don't seem to base your argument on the manga but more on philosophy and the moral code. Which you are entitled too, it just seems weird that you are posting this in a Naruto thread without referencing the manga to prove your opinions.

Do you want the Naruto Universe to report Obito and move on? What do you think is the moral thing to do for Naruto and company?



I'm going to trust, y'know, data, experience, and the degree over some random mad poster, thanks much.


A wise poster once said:
If you cant refute my points please don't bother posting. This thread is for intelligent people that know how to construct a proper argument.

I think this applies to you in this situation. I don't have a problem if you are a troll (you are hilarious, imo) but if you are not I just don't understand why you are not listening to this sage advice. I ask you questions, you respond with your subjective opinions without any sources. I think you have some wisdom in your replies you are just not explaining your arguments in a way that would continue a constructive conversation. Also no name calling^^


You're expecting a troll to argue in a constructive manner and provide sources? lol. You had a well thought out post and he literally typed "herp derp you mad" as a response.

He created his account today for the sole purpose of trying to have at it in this thread and see how many people he can bother.

Terrible argument.

That's like blaming jails in real life for why society is being worst when there are many other factors that contribute.

Question. Is there any mention of jails in the Naruto universe?

why have a police force if you have no jail?

I just read about it in the wiki, The Konoha Military Police disbanded after the Uchiha massacre, also the prison was located at Uchiha HQ. After this there is no more mention of a shinobi police force in Konoha (an actual government one), ANBU of course don't count because that would be like calling the CIA a police force.

Going on that line the only official government jail is at Uchiha HQ, but we have never seen it. Don't even know why I am digging so deep into this, been so long since I read the child chapters but I find it weird this part of society wasn't fleshed out seeing as their missions revolved around catching wrongdoers ect.
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
September 20 2013 09:24 GMT
#15315
I don't know if this has been adressed previously, but am I the only who see more and more of a DBZ-hype into the anime? They made the tailed-beats look so retarded compared to how the manga shows them.

Also, I'm fairly certain that there will be a Naruto v3, after he becomes Hokage (maybe a conflict between Naruto and Sasuke?).
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 20 2013 09:32 GMT
#15316
On the topic of DBZ the newest Movie Battle of Gods was recently released with subs and super hd quality online? Really good movie look it up guys .

If Kishi doesn't have any ideas for another good manga he'll probably milk this as long as possible and we will hear " Naruto is coming to an end" for the next decade :D
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 20 2013 17:12 GMT
#15317
On September 20 2013 18:32 AsnSensation wrote:
On the topic of DBZ the newest Movie Battle of Gods was recently released with subs and super hd quality online? Really good movie look it up guys .

If Kishi doesn't have any ideas for another good manga he'll probably milk this as long as possible and we will hear " Naruto is coming to an end" for the next decade :D

he said that next arc is the last, if hes dealing with such a definite time frame its hard to dodge

its not like he said "there will probably only be one more arc" or "Naruto is definently nearing a conclusion"
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
September 20 2013 17:30 GMT
#15318
On September 21 2013 02:12 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 18:32 AsnSensation wrote:
On the topic of DBZ the newest Movie Battle of Gods was recently released with subs and super hd quality online? Really good movie look it up guys .

If Kishi doesn't have any ideas for another good manga he'll probably milk this as long as possible and we will hear " Naruto is coming to an end" for the next decade :D

he said that next arc is the last, if hes dealing with such a definite time frame its hard to dodge

its not like he said "there will probably only be one more arc" or "Naruto is definently nearing a conclusion"

Where was this said? I remember an update a couple months back saying that very same thing about Bleach, so it's possible you may have things mixed up.

This fight is reaching a head, but it'll keep going somehow. Always does.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 20 2013 17:54 GMT
#15319
On September 21 2013 02:30 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 02:12 Forikorder wrote:
On September 20 2013 18:32 AsnSensation wrote:
On the topic of DBZ the newest Movie Battle of Gods was recently released with subs and super hd quality online? Really good movie look it up guys .

If Kishi doesn't have any ideas for another good manga he'll probably milk this as long as possible and we will hear " Naruto is coming to an end" for the next decade :D

he said that next arc is the last, if hes dealing with such a definite time frame its hard to dodge

its not like he said "there will probably only be one more arc" or "Naruto is definently nearing a conclusion"

Where was this said? I remember an update a couple months back saying that very same thing about Bleach, so it's possible you may have things mixed up.

This fight is reaching a head, but it'll keep going somehow. Always does.

i cant come up with a source but im sure someone posted an interview where he said that

also this is the last arc of bleach
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
September 21 2013 17:37 GMT
#15320
I am for sure stopping with Naruto once the tentails and Tobi are taken care of.
Just like pulled a stop on Bleach after Aizen.

Can't see myself reading further when I sometimes need to motivate myself to read weekly chapters.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
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