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TLADT24920 Posts
On September 19 2013 12:51 Sotoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 12:45 BigFan wrote:On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga. Treat him as rude? :S Where did you get that idea? lol. He was respected for being a fearsome opponent prior to revealing himself as Obito. You're saying they should just let him do whatever and not interfere when he plans to genjustu them, cmon, you can't be serious :O Would you watch if someone is going to put a spell or do something undesirable to you? If yes, then I don't think this convo will get anywhere lol. I do have a feeling that this is a troll XD Wow good job you just wrote off an entire person and gave everyone a reason to be toxic to him. You know that it doesn't help to be rude if someone else is? I would recommend you watch the "teamwork op" video riot put out and educate yourself on being nice to others.
hehe yep, I wrote him off in 'your words'. He deserved it as far as I'm concerned. Any person that threatens my well being with his silliness of thinking that putting everyone in a comatose state deserves it. No thanks, not interested in the video ^^
On September 19 2013 12:56 Zooper31 wrote:
Don't feed the troll guys. #1 rule to the internet, we're on TL, you show know better.
it's too fun? 
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On September 19 2013 08:10 DDie wrote:
This chapter reminded me of dragonball z, when Goku is fighting Freeza and a 5 minute fight drags over 82u9325293 episodes. I just want this to end already.
It doesn't stop there, dude, Madara just put a 15 minute timer on this shit.
Watch as it goes on for another 100 chapters.
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i thought that guy is hilarious
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On September 19 2013 12:58 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 12:51 Sotoshi wrote:On September 19 2013 12:45 BigFan wrote:On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga. Treat him as rude? :S Where did you get that idea? lol. He was respected for being a fearsome opponent prior to revealing himself as Obito. You're saying they should just let him do whatever and not interfere when he plans to genjustu them, cmon, you can't be serious :O Would you watch if someone is going to put a spell or do something undesirable to you? If yes, then I don't think this convo will get anywhere lol. I do have a feeling that this is a troll XD Wow good job you just wrote off an entire person and gave everyone a reason to be toxic to him. You know that it doesn't help to be rude if someone else is? I would recommend you watch the "teamwork op" video riot put out and educate yourself on being nice to others. hehe yep, I wrote him off in 'your words'. He deserved it as far as I'm concerned. Any person that threatens my well being with his silliness of thinking that putting everyone in a comatose state deserves it. No thanks, not interested in the video ^^ Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 12:56 Zooper31 wrote:
Don't feed the troll guys. #1 rule to the internet, we're on TL, you show know better. it's too fun?
So you're perfectly fine with everyone going 5 year old on obito? They could try to talk with him instead and give him some friendly advice instead of resorting to raging like little kids.
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On September 19 2013 13:12 Sotoshi wrote:
So you're perfectly fine with everyone going 5 year old on obito?
Yes.
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On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga.
I disagree with your opinions. But in order to have a civilized discussion could you expand on them, as I wouldn't want to misconstrue them. Please back up them up with evidence (manga pages or by Kishimoto).
If you don't want to provide justification for you opinions, just ignore this post.
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On September 19 2013 13:12 Sotoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 12:58 BigFan wrote:On September 19 2013 12:51 Sotoshi wrote:On September 19 2013 12:45 BigFan wrote:On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga. Treat him as rude? :S Where did you get that idea? lol. He was respected for being a fearsome opponent prior to revealing himself as Obito. You're saying they should just let him do whatever and not interfere when he plans to genjustu them, cmon, you can't be serious :O Would you watch if someone is going to put a spell or do something undesirable to you? If yes, then I don't think this convo will get anywhere lol. I do have a feeling that this is a troll XD Wow good job you just wrote off an entire person and gave everyone a reason to be toxic to him. You know that it doesn't help to be rude if someone else is? I would recommend you watch the "teamwork op" video riot put out and educate yourself on being nice to others. hehe yep, I wrote him off in 'your words'. He deserved it as far as I'm concerned. Any person that threatens my well being with his silliness of thinking that putting everyone in a comatose state deserves it. No thanks, not interested in the video ^^ On September 19 2013 12:56 Zooper31 wrote:
Don't feed the troll guys. #1 rule to the internet, we're on TL, you show know better. it's too fun? So you're perfectly fine with everyone going 5 year old on obito? They could try to talk with him instead and give him some friendly advice instead of resorting to raging like little kids.
ya, I'm perfectly ok with it. Very entertaining ^^
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On September 19 2013 13:12 Sotoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 12:58 BigFan wrote:On September 19 2013 12:51 Sotoshi wrote:On September 19 2013 12:45 BigFan wrote:On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga. Treat him as rude? :S Where did you get that idea? lol. He was respected for being a fearsome opponent prior to revealing himself as Obito. You're saying they should just let him do whatever and not interfere when he plans to genjustu them, cmon, you can't be serious :O Would you watch if someone is going to put a spell or do something undesirable to you? If yes, then I don't think this convo will get anywhere lol. I do have a feeling that this is a troll XD Wow good job you just wrote off an entire person and gave everyone a reason to be toxic to him. You know that it doesn't help to be rude if someone else is? I would recommend you watch the "teamwork op" video riot put out and educate yourself on being nice to others. hehe yep, I wrote him off in 'your words'. He deserved it as far as I'm concerned. Any person that threatens my well being with his silliness of thinking that putting everyone in a comatose state deserves it. No thanks, not interested in the video ^^ On September 19 2013 12:56 Zooper31 wrote:
Don't feed the troll guys. #1 rule to the internet, we're on TL, you show know better. it's too fun? So you're perfectly fine with everyone going 5 year old on obito? They could try to talk with him instead and give him some friendly advice instead of resorting to raging like little kids.
What do you think Kakashi's been trying to do since he found out it was Obito? Even the fourth tried to reason/tell him stop doing what he's doing. Everyone's going 5 year old on Obito? rofl he's the one being the 5 year old ^^
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On September 19 2013 13:40 Sharkey wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga. I disagree with your opinions. But in order to have a civilized discussion could you expand on them, as I wouldn't want to misconstrue them. Please back up them up with evidence (manga pages or by Kishimoto). If you don't want to provide justification for you opinions, just ignore this post.
I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic person by being toxic just incites that person to be even worse--it also ruins the situation for everyone else. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all the time than it is to watch 1 person ranting into blank space. Almost everyone can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our fellow man. What people often don't realize is... those other people that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those people were jailed. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be jailed. It's really that simple.
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On September 19 2013 13:44 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 13:12 Sotoshi wrote:On September 19 2013 12:58 BigFan wrote:On September 19 2013 12:51 Sotoshi wrote:On September 19 2013 12:45 BigFan wrote:On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga. Treat him as rude? :S Where did you get that idea? lol. He was respected for being a fearsome opponent prior to revealing himself as Obito. You're saying they should just let him do whatever and not interfere when he plans to genjustu them, cmon, you can't be serious :O Would you watch if someone is going to put a spell or do something undesirable to you? If yes, then I don't think this convo will get anywhere lol. I do have a feeling that this is a troll XD Wow good job you just wrote off an entire person and gave everyone a reason to be toxic to him. You know that it doesn't help to be rude if someone else is? I would recommend you watch the "teamwork op" video riot put out and educate yourself on being nice to others. hehe yep, I wrote him off in 'your words'. He deserved it as far as I'm concerned. Any person that threatens my well being with his silliness of thinking that putting everyone in a comatose state deserves it. No thanks, not interested in the video ^^ On September 19 2013 12:56 Zooper31 wrote:
Don't feed the troll guys. #1 rule to the internet, we're on TL, you show know better. it's too fun? So you're perfectly fine with everyone going 5 year old on obito? They could try to talk with him instead and give him some friendly advice instead of resorting to raging like little kids. What do you think Kakashi's been trying to do since he found out it was Obito? Even the fourth tried to reason/tell him stop doing what he's doing. Everyone's going 5 year old on Obito? rofl he's the one being the 5 year old ^^ Sorry to say this but you're wrong. I've recently watched riots video on "teamwork op" and came to realize a lot of new things. You should watch it maybe you'll learn something. It's made by a team of psychologists that understand these things beyond your capacity.
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On September 19 2013 13:48 Sotoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 13:40 Sharkey wrote:On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga. I disagree with your opinions. But in order to have a civilized discussion could you expand on them, as I wouldn't want to misconstrue them. Please back up them up with evidence (manga pages or by Kishimoto). If you don't want to provide justification for you opinions, just ignore this post. I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic person by being toxic just incites that person to be even worse--it also ruins the situation for everyone else. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all the time than it is to watch 1 person ranting into blank space. Almost everyone can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our fellow man. What people often don't realize is... those other people that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those people were jailed. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be jailed. It's really that simple.
I can't help but feel like you are referring to our current situation(not using those specific terms of course) if you get what I mean lol but I'll answer. If obito was only ranting into blank space, it's one thing but he obviously wasn't. You can deny this if you want but it's what's going on. Rebuttal?
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On September 19 2013 13:54 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 13:48 Sotoshi wrote:On September 19 2013 13:40 Sharkey wrote:On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga. I disagree with your opinions. But in order to have a civilized discussion could you expand on them, as I wouldn't want to misconstrue them. Please back up them up with evidence (manga pages or by Kishimoto). If you don't want to provide justification for you opinions, just ignore this post. I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic person by being toxic just incites that person to be even worse--it also ruins the situation for everyone else. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all the time than it is to watch 1 person ranting into blank space. Almost everyone can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our fellow man. What people often don't realize is... those other people that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those people were jailed. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be jailed. It's really that simple. I can't help but feel like you are referring to our current situation(not using those specific terms of course) if you get what I mean lol but I'll answer. If obito was only ranting into blank space, it's one thing but he obviously wasn't. You can deny this if you want but it's what's going on. Rebuttal?
It's been getting difficult trying to answer questions across several threads, so I'm hoping to answer any questions players might have about behavior, matchmaking, or life in general being a scientist in the gaming industry in this thread
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/191262/ this might be helpful for you
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And by several threads, he means only his Naruto postings in the last hour.
Seriously guys just stop responding. That's also another way to deal with "toxic" players in LoL, just ignore them. Since he wants to treat the Naruto universe like a rage filled soloQ game in League. Stop giving them the reaction they are craving.
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On September 19 2013 14:03 Zooper31 wrote:
And by several threads, he means only his Naruto postings in the last hour.
Seriously guys just stop responding. That's also another way to deal with "toxic" players in LoL, just ignore them. Since he wants to treat the Naruto universe like a rage filled soloQ game in League. Stop giving them the reaction they are craving.
This is what I've been saying. Instead of being toxic ragers why don't they ignore obito?
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On September 19 2013 14:07 Sotoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 14:03 Zooper31 wrote:
And by several threads, he means only his Naruto postings in the last hour.
Seriously guys just stop responding. That's also another way to deal with "toxic" players in LoL, just ignore them. Since he wants to treat the Naruto universe like a rage filled soloQ game in League. Stop giving them the reaction they are craving. This is what I've been saying. Instead of being toxic ragers why don't they ignore obito?
haha he totally misconstrued your comment Zooper31 XD
ps thanks for the link but I don't need to watch it. I'm well aware of how to deal with toxic behaviour 
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On September 19 2013 13:48 Sotoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 13:40 Sharkey wrote:On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga. I disagree with your opinions. But in order to have a civilized discussion could you expand on them, as I wouldn't want to misconstrue them. Please back up them up with evidence (manga pages or by Kishimoto). If you don't want to provide justification for you opinions, just ignore this post. I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic person by being toxic just incites that person to be even worse--it also ruins the situation for everyone else. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all the time than it is to watch 1 person ranting into blank space. Almost everyone can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our fellow man. What people often don't realize is... those other people that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those people were jailed. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be jailed. It's really that simple.
I agree on some levels that using retaliation on someone isn't always the best method. But lets look at the facts
Obito was in charge of a secret organization: Akatsuki
Akatsuki's goals were to infiltrate towns and steal jinchuuriki (kidnapping)
Akatsuki would then extract the tailed beast from the jinchuuriki by killing them (killing)
Obito and his minions went to meeting of the Kages and declared war on them (war for the specific reason of kidnapping and killing the remaining jinchuuriki)
Obito used his armies to kill a vast number of ninjas
He then wants to create a 'matrix' world where everyone does not live in reality
From what I understand from your post. You don't seem to base your argument on the manga but more on philosophy and the moral code. Which you are entitled too, it just seems weird that you are posting this in a Naruto thread without referencing the manga to prove your opinions.
Do you want the Naruto Universe to report Obito and move on? What do you think is the moral thing to do for Naruto and company?
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On September 19 2013 14:25 Sharkey wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 13:48 Sotoshi wrote:On September 19 2013 13:40 Sharkey wrote:On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga. I disagree with your opinions. But in order to have a civilized discussion could you expand on them, as I wouldn't want to misconstrue them. Please back up them up with evidence (manga pages or by Kishimoto). If you don't want to provide justification for you opinions, just ignore this post. I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic person by being toxic just incites that person to be even worse--it also ruins the situation for everyone else. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all the time than it is to watch 1 person ranting into blank space. Almost everyone can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our fellow man. What people often don't realize is... those other people that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those people were jailed. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be jailed. It's really that simple. I agree on some levels that using retaliation on someone isn't always the best method. But lets look at the facts Obito was in charge of a secret organization: Akatsuki Akatsuki's goals were to infiltrate towns and steal jinchuuriki (kidnapping) Akatsuki would then extract the tailed beast from the jinchuuriki by killing them (killing) Obito and his minions went to meeting of the Kages and declared war on them (war for the specific reason of kidnapping and killing the remaining jinchuuriki) Obito used his armies to kill a vast number of ninjas He then wants to create a 'matrix' world where everyone does not live in reality From what I understand from your post. You don't seem to base your argument on the manga but more on philosophy and the moral code. Which you are entitled too, it just seems weird that you are posting this in a Naruto thread without referencing the manga to prove your opinions. Do you want the Naruto Universe to report Obito and move on? What do you think is the moral thing to do for Naruto and company?
I'm going to trust, y'know, data, experience, and the degree over some random mad poster, thanks much.
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On September 19 2013 14:31 Sotoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 14:25 Sharkey wrote:On September 19 2013 13:48 Sotoshi wrote:On September 19 2013 13:40 Sharkey wrote:On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga. I disagree with your opinions. But in order to have a civilized discussion could you expand on them, as I wouldn't want to misconstrue them. Please back up them up with evidence (manga pages or by Kishimoto). If you don't want to provide justification for you opinions, just ignore this post. I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic person by being toxic just incites that person to be even worse--it also ruins the situation for everyone else. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all the time than it is to watch 1 person ranting into blank space. Almost everyone can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our fellow man. What people often don't realize is... those other people that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those people were jailed. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be jailed. It's really that simple. I agree on some levels that using retaliation on someone isn't always the best method. But lets look at the facts Obito was in charge of a secret organization: Akatsuki Akatsuki's goals were to infiltrate towns and steal jinchuuriki (kidnapping) Akatsuki would then extract the tailed beast from the jinchuuriki by killing them (killing) Obito and his minions went to meeting of the Kages and declared war on them (war for the specific reason of kidnapping and killing the remaining jinchuuriki) Obito used his armies to kill a vast number of ninjas He then wants to create a 'matrix' world where everyone does not live in reality From what I understand from your post. You don't seem to base your argument on the manga but more on philosophy and the moral code. Which you are entitled too, it just seems weird that you are posting this in a Naruto thread without referencing the manga to prove your opinions. Do you want the Naruto Universe to report Obito and move on? What do you think is the moral thing to do for Naruto and company? I'm going to trust, y'know, data, experience, and the degree over some random mad poster, thanks much.
cmon you can troll harder then that your not even adressing his points
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On September 19 2013 14:31 Sotoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 14:25 Sharkey wrote:On September 19 2013 13:48 Sotoshi wrote:On September 19 2013 13:40 Sharkey wrote:On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga. I disagree with your opinions. But in order to have a civilized discussion could you expand on them, as I wouldn't want to misconstrue them. Please back up them up with evidence (manga pages or by Kishimoto). If you don't want to provide justification for you opinions, just ignore this post. I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic person by being toxic just incites that person to be even worse--it also ruins the situation for everyone else. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all the time than it is to watch 1 person ranting into blank space. Almost everyone can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our fellow man. What people often don't realize is... those other people that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those people were jailed. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be jailed. It's really that simple. I agree on some levels that using retaliation on someone isn't always the best method. But lets look at the facts Obito was in charge of a secret organization: Akatsuki Akatsuki's goals were to infiltrate towns and steal jinchuuriki (kidnapping) Akatsuki would then extract the tailed beast from the jinchuuriki by killing them (killing) Obito and his minions went to meeting of the Kages and declared war on them (war for the specific reason of kidnapping and killing the remaining jinchuuriki) Obito used his armies to kill a vast number of ninjas He then wants to create a 'matrix' world where everyone does not live in reality From what I understand from your post. You don't seem to base your argument on the manga but more on philosophy and the moral code. Which you are entitled too, it just seems weird that you are posting this in a Naruto thread without referencing the manga to prove your opinions. Do you want the Naruto Universe to report Obito and move on? What do you think is the moral thing to do for Naruto and company? I'm going to trust, y'know, data, experience, and the degree over some random mad poster, thanks much.
Reporting doesn't work, he'll just create an Edo Tensei smurf. They should have let him have mid in the first place.
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On September 19 2013 14:31 Sotoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 14:25 Sharkey wrote:On September 19 2013 13:48 Sotoshi wrote:On September 19 2013 13:40 Sharkey wrote:On September 19 2013 12:28 Sotoshi wrote:
Stopped liking naruto a while ago. The way they treat obito is really rude, making the story not very believable. They can be a lot nicer to him since he has a dream they should mind their own business and not be jerks to him. If this was real life naruto and the kages wouldn't get away with what theyre doing to him. Good riddance with this bad manga. I disagree with your opinions. But in order to have a civilized discussion could you expand on them, as I wouldn't want to misconstrue them. Please back up them up with evidence (manga pages or by Kishimoto). If you don't want to provide justification for you opinions, just ignore this post. I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic person by being toxic just incites that person to be even worse--it also ruins the situation for everyone else. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all the time than it is to watch 1 person ranting into blank space. Almost everyone can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our fellow man. What people often don't realize is... those other people that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those people were jailed. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be jailed. It's really that simple. I agree on some levels that using retaliation on someone isn't always the best method. But lets look at the facts Obito was in charge of a secret organization: Akatsuki Akatsuki's goals were to infiltrate towns and steal jinchuuriki (kidnapping) Akatsuki would then extract the tailed beast from the jinchuuriki by killing them (killing) Obito and his minions went to meeting of the Kages and declared war on them (war for the specific reason of kidnapping and killing the remaining jinchuuriki) Obito used his armies to kill a vast number of ninjas He then wants to create a 'matrix' world where everyone does not live in reality From what I understand from your post. You don't seem to base your argument on the manga but more on philosophy and the moral code. Which you are entitled too, it just seems weird that you are posting this in a Naruto thread without referencing the manga to prove your opinions. Do you want the Naruto Universe to report Obito and move on? What do you think is the moral thing to do for Naruto and company? I'm going to trust, y'know, data, experience, and the degree over some random mad poster, thanks much.
A wise poster once said:
If you cant refute my points please don't bother posting. This thread is for intelligent people that know how to construct a proper argument.
I think this applies to you in this situation. I don't have a problem if you are a troll (you are hilarious, imo) but if you are not I just don't understand why you are not listening to this sage advice. I ask you questions, you respond with your subjective opinions without any sources. I think you have some wisdom in your replies you are just not explaining your arguments in a way that would continue a constructive conversation. Also no name calling^^
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