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[Manga] Naruto - Page 74
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
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sk`
Japan442 Posts
On July 18 2009 01:02 suxN wrote: I clearly haven't reached that level of nerd yet... though I mostly follow manga trends due to work more than personal taste.people enjoy speculating aswell  possibly even moreso than the actual readingThough, I do love Mugen no Junin. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On July 17 2009 19:24 Khyrandor wrote: but in many more ways it doesn't make sense... nekoni from deviantArt wrote this + Show Spoiler + If Danzo is Tobi, he's a master of the quick-change magic trick, and the sides of his face don't match. He also -clearly- is good at doing accents for having not been recognised by Kakashi and co back in their encounter in the woods. Or he could be pulling a henge on -all- the other ninja to create the variances in appearence. He also has an obsession with secret identities, and has some sort of neat little jutsu to replace his arm. And he also teleports to and fro between Konoha and Akatsuki constantly- but most importantly, after having been undercover in Konoha for -decades- running both root and Akatsuki? He's ordered Sasuke killed, as a threat to Konoha, TWICE, but wants Sasuke alive, AND told Sasuke to kill him (Danzo). o_O Also, if Tobi is Madara and Danzo was Tobi, why in the world would he order the Uchiha clan to be killed? Madara was the leader of the Uchiha clan, if Tobi is Danzo and Danzo wanted to become Hokage, he wouldn't kill his own minions who were capable of fufilling the overthrow o___o See, there'd need to be a LOT of explaning for this theory to be true. I love how everyone has these elaborate theories on why Tobi can't be Danzo which are all negated by Kagebunshin no Jutsu. | ||
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snarl
Canada812 Posts
On July 18 2009 00:12 fanatacist wrote: Madara is said to be the brains behind akatsuki all the way... If you notice, he was talking about how he planned to "use" Pain's ability. That does not come from someone who gave the steering wheel away. He was behind everything, directly or indirectly. Madara is far more powerful than Sasuke, if he is indeed milking him for all his worth he would only send him where he is certain to win, and will just kill him when it is necessary. There is no use in sending Sasuke to his death. Also, Kakashi has Mangekyu sharingan, and I'm assuming Danzo does also since he is a powerful ninja. My post was based on the belief that Madara=Danzo who we saw recently to only have 1 arm and 1 sharingan eye. I highly doubt in his current state Danzo is far more powerful than Sasuke which is why he is luring him to the Kage summit. That's also why he needs to get his hands on Orochimaru's work.. to heal himself to full strength. I also doubt Kakashi's MS can control the 9 tails since he isn't an Uchiha himself. | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On July 18 2009 03:30 snarl wrote: My post was based on the belief that Madara=Danzo who we saw recently to only have 1 arm and 1 sharingan eye. I highly doubt in his current state Danzo is far more powerful than Sasuke which is why he is luring him to the Kage summit. That's also why he needs to get his hands on Orochimaru's work.. to heal himself to full strength. I also doubt Kakashi's MS can control the 9 tails since he isn't an Uchiha himself. I disagree with your premise, especially since there would be no reason for Danzo to have only 1 functional arm if Madara has both (which he does). Madara is clearly more powerful than Sasuke, and if you are saying that Danzo is Madara, he too is more powerful than Sasuke. I don't see how Orochimaru's work affects anything (I doubt it can be replicated, or would be, considering Madara is already so fucking old... he must have his own way of doing it), and I don't see any need to heal in this scenario once again because Madara/Danzo, if indeed they are one person, seem to be in very fit condition. Kakashi's weakness is not his inability to use the sharingan properly, it's his related stamina - Itachi mentioned this during their fight. | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
On July 17 2009 18:24 fanatacist wrote: Kakashi gaiden was sooo good this is great news <3 Awesome. The 4th is a beast we must see him asap. I believe the chapters were like 73- or something? 53 maybe? Just google it. This is my favorite part of the manga. | ||
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cosiant
Canada616 Posts
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On July 18 2009 04:23 cosiant wrote: Any speculations on how Kakashi got his mangekyou sharingan? Or was it already discussed? Probably the same way other Sharingan users did... breaking some sort of emotional limit. Madara took his brother's eye(s?) if I'm not mistaken, Itachi killed his best friend and family, Sasuke got it from Itachi on top of the Amaterasu (iirc). It doesn't go in-depth about it but it was clearly difficult to obtain it because he did not have the greatest control of it when it was first shown, not sure about now. | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
It's actually interesting how Kakashi got the mangekyou sharingan because he specifically stated that he didn't really have anyone close to him anymore and when he said this, he didn't have it (this was right when Kakashi was talking to Sasuke before he was taken by the sound ninja). | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
On July 18 2009 05:00 thunk wrote: The Kakashi story arc is 239-244. It's actually interesting how Kakashi got the mangekyou sharingan because he specifically stated that he didn't really have anyone close to him anymore and when he said this, he didn't have it (this was right when Kakashi was talking to Sasuke before he was taken by the sound ninja). so did he get it between the end of the original naruto series and when he fought with the exploding clay guy? | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On July 18 2009 00:53 sk` wrote: You can see Danzo has it in the latest volume. Either way, speculating on the future is silly. Just read and enjoy it. where does it show him with mangekyu sharingan? all it shows is him having a normal (but powerful) sharingan I really doubt he has mangekyu sharingan | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
On July 18 2009 05:30 freelander wrote: so did he get it between the end of the original naruto series and when he fought with the exploding clay guy? Yea, I think he got it sometime in the 3 year time jump. | ||
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HotZhot
Colombia677 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On July 18 2009 06:26 HotZhot wrote: Man, the manga is good, but the anime is absolute crap They are both pretty crap honestly. Lately I feel like Naruto isn't going anywhere... like at all. There is so much useless backround information that never ever seems to become important. Probably the same way other Sharingan users did... breaking some sort of emotional limit. Madara took his brother's eye(s?) if I'm not mistaken, Itachi killed his best friend and family, Sasuke got it from Itachi on top of the Amaterasu (iirc). It doesn't go in-depth about it but it was clearly difficult to obtain it because he did not have the greatest control of it when it was first shown, not sure about now. Madara got the Mangekyou before he took his brother's eyes. He took his brother's eyes to gain the ETERNAL mangekyou sharingan. Both of the brothers had it first. Itachi got his solely from killing his best friend and then commenced using its powers to kill the family. Sasuke got his out of a freak plothole because Kishimoto hadn't been giving his Sasuke enough fellatio. Kakashi had okay control with the Mangekyou but keep in mind that because of his lack of Uchiha blood the regular sharingan already drains him of huge amounts of chakra just by being active. Imagine how much chakra it takes to crunch a piece of space time in on itself AFTER spending all that chakra just activating the Mangekyou in the first place. It's safe to say a Kamui activation drains Kakashi of nearly all of his chakra. | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On July 18 2009 06:00 travis wrote: where does it show him with mangekyu sharingan? all it shows is him having a normal (but powerful) sharingan I really doubt he has mangekyu sharingan 1. How do you know his sharingan is "powerful"? I think you have no basis there. 2. Why would you doubt his ability to have mangekyu sharingan? If Kakashi has it, and Danzo is supposedly stronger (I mean why else would he become Hokage?), why can't he have it? | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On July 18 2009 10:54 fanatacist wrote: 1. How do you know his sharingan is "powerful"? I think you have no basis there. 2. Why would you doubt his ability to have mangekyu sharingan? If Kakashi has it, and Danzo is supposedly stronger (I mean why else would he become Hokage?), why can't he have it? How do you know Danzo became Hokage due to any virtue of strength? It was an emergency meeting where Danzo pretty much yelled and BAM became Hokage and I mean really... Kakashi is probably stronger than Tsunade in most categories that count yet she was Hokage. | ||
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BisuBoi
United States350 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On July 18 2009 01:36 fanatacist wrote: Does anyone else find it kind of annoying/shallow that EVERY character of any significance in the story follows the tragic hero archetype? Ive always taken that as a symbol for how fucked up the ninja world is, soo many bad things/people have happened. Thats why Naruto is like a "revolution" to change their whole world so the tragic/fucked up shit won't be so prevalent. Thats why I think in the end he will be Hokage just to show that he is making good strides in that area. | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On July 18 2009 11:10 Jayme wrote: How do you know Danzo became Hokage due to any virtue of strength? It was an emergency meeting where Danzo pretty much yelled and BAM became Hokage and I mean really... Kakashi is probably stronger than Tsunade in most categories that count yet she was Hokage. Danzo wouldn't be anything if it wasn't for strength - his position with ROOT, the elders, etc. are all because of his abilities. Tsunade revolutionized shinobi team organization, is older (more wise), has more brute strength, has unmatched healing ability. Kakashi is just a very strong Jounin. | ||
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Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
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