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AXygnus
Portugal1008 Posts
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
On June 26 2013 22:03 shark. wrote: The weirdest thing about this Obito being beaten bu Kakashi thing is that it has been shown that physical attacks do nothing to him. Only a few chapters ago he tanked Kakahis riakiri thing simply to show he does not have a heart. I think i have lost count how many times hes regrown parts of his body and not have of it phase him one bit. Seems like bullshit to me. The only parts he can regrow are the parts that are composed of the Zetsu body Madara attached to him, so a hit into his center of mass would almost certainly hit something important and not made of Zetsu-flesh. Also, the heart hit was an illusion. On June 26 2013 22:27 c0ldfusion wrote: I was about to write the exact thing. That made no sense to me. Moreover, why doesn't Kakashi just tp back? It takes a lot for a non-Uchiha to use the sharingan or really anything related. It was already shown that it takes a lot out of Kakashi to teleport out of that realm, and I'd say it gets a lot harder when you have a sword buried in your chest. Even if he has the energy to do it, one would probably want to gather oneself before doing a gruesomely hard teleport straight into the biggest battle in the history of the world. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On June 26 2013 22:03 shark. wrote: The weirdest thing about this Obito being beaten bu Kakashi thing is that it has been shown that physical attacks do nothing to him. Only a few chapters ago he tanked Kakahis riakiri thing simply to show he does not have a heart. I think i have lost count how many times hes regrown parts of his body and not have of it phase him one bit. Seems like bullshit to me. Unless Obito decides to solve the problem with Kakashi like a man by letting down his regen/heartless defense/whatever But yeah, the build-up to Obito's revelation was pretty great, a final-boss kind of thing. Hes supposed to rolfstomp Kakashi with one hand and yet he turned out to be a miserable pawn. That said, I predict Obito's conscience would eventually give Madara a run for his money, after Kakashi sacrifices himself and a few chapters of flashback to their memories | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Jealous
10332 Posts
On June 26 2013 23:07 AsnSensation wrote: a bit confused, so did Madara plan and manipulated Obito's body ever since he first rescued and healed him? How can he just control his body like that. He probably controls the sharingan -> rinnegan he gave to him and/or the zetsu attached to his body, although given the fact that he is going to use him for edo tensei (rinnegan ability) I'd say the former; it also makes sense because if you remember, Oro/Kabuto would put a kunai with some of the DNA of the person whom they wish to reanimate inside the person's body during the ritual, and if Madara gave his own eye to Obito then it's been planned from the start as a back-up. One question I do have about it is what the outcome of the edo tensei will be... It was pretty clear before that one needs a whole, living body (as it seemed that there were never any maimed or severely injured ninja used for the ritual). Will Madara's powers be affected by reanimating himself into what is effectively a half-body that is also heavily maimed? Could be something that Kishi pulls. I wouldn't put it past Madara to have some sort of straight mind/body manipulation technique similar to a genjutsu (or is a genjutsu) given his mastery of both sharingan and rinnegan, and with Obito on what seems to be the brink of death, it should not be hard to execute. There are two things I've learned from the past 2 pages of this thread: 1. Things that person A really likes about the manga, person B really hates, which is to be expected but it's incredible how stark the contrast in so few posts. Really puts into perspective all the bitching and moaning that has encompassed this thread for years. 2. A lot of people really don't have much critical thinking/memory of previous events, which in my opinion should make it more interesting for them ("omg why did that happen?") because of the speculation and wonder, but instead they just bitch about Kishi and how it makes no sense and how he's a bad author. (This is NOT directed at you, AsnSensation; you didn't bitch and moan xP). | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On June 26 2013 23:07 AsnSensation wrote: a bit confused, so did Madara plan and manipulated Obito's body ever since he first rescued and healed him? How can he just control his body like that. Madaras been dead so no Madaras body is half Zetsu, remember how the black Zetsu was a Zetsu Madara pured his will into? same deal he poured his will into half of Obito so Obito finished the plan also Obito couldnt dodge the attacks, he originally dodged them by moving the part that was going to be hit to where there currently fighting, so in order to dodge hed have to move the body part to the real dimension which is currently in a massive war, its jsut too risky | ||
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
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derpface
Sweden925 Posts
On June 26 2013 23:33 sumsaR wrote: Imagine if Obito had just phased out of there right away and left a chakra-starved Kakashi to sit on his ass. He couldnt because of plot. | ||
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WonnaPlay
Netherlands912 Posts
On June 26 2013 23:32 Forikorder wrote: also Obito couldnt dodge the attacks, he originally dodged them by moving the part that was going to be hit to where there currently fighting, so in order to dodge hed have to move the body part to the real dimension which is currently in a massive war, its jsut too risky POW! Right into the Amaterasu of Sasuke. Or in the Belly of Gamakichi :D | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On June 26 2013 23:33 sumsaR wrote: Imagine if Obito had just phased out of there right away and left a chakra-starved Kakashi to sit on his ass. there wouldnt have been a difference except Kakashi might have had enough energy to escape, the way Obito did it Kakashi has no energy left to escape and Obito still ressurects Madara best case scenario for him | ||
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kornetka
Poland129 Posts
On June 26 2013 23:33 sumsaR wrote: Imagine if Obito had just phased out of there right away and left a chakra-starved Kakashi to sit on his ass. Wasn't Kakashi full of Kurama's chakra at the begining? Btw, when did Madara died and how did Orochimaru/Kabuto obtain his body? Am I forgetting something or it is classified information? | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
Also sure that we haven't seen how Madara died exactly, but presumably the reason was old age. Likewise how Kabuto found his body to Edo Tensei him is unknown. Actually I'm quite surprised that Madara expects to be revived, because I expected it would cost more energy than Obito has right now. When this happens we will for the first time see a live jinchuurikification. I hope it will be handled well. | ||
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shark.
593 Posts
On June 27 2013 00:21 Mataza wrote: I'm pretty sure Rinnegan revival ability is not Edo Tensei. Also sure that we haven't seen how Madara died exactly, but presumably the reason was old age. Likewise how Kabuto found his body to Edo Tensei him is unknown. Actually I'm quite surprised that Madara expects to be revived, because I expected it would cost more energy than Obito has right now. When this happens we will for the first time see a live jinchuurikification. I hope it will be handled well. When Obito and Madara first meet in the war obito said it would take him to sacrifice his life to rinne tensei Madara back so not much has changed in that department iirc. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On June 27 2013 00:21 Mataza wrote: I'm pretty sure Rinnegan revival ability is not Edo Tensei. Also sure that we haven't seen how Madara died exactly, but presumably the reason was old age. Likewise how Kabuto found his body to Edo Tensei him is unknown. Actually I'm quite surprised that Madara expects to be revived, because I expected it would cost more energy than Obito has right now. When this happens we will for the first time see a live jinchuurikification. I hope it will be handled well. we saw how he died, and it was old age he was only alive because he kept himself connected to the statue thing, once he got Obito set up he had no reason to keep clinging to life so he passed on (not that he had much life in him at that point) presumably Kabuto managed to find that chamber and snag some of the corpse | ||
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MoonPieMat
United States96 Posts
Also Madara is going to revive himself with Obito's body? Why didn't he do this any time before? | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6277 Posts
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Jealous
10332 Posts
On June 27 2013 00:21 Mataza wrote: I'm pretty sure Rinnegan revival ability is not Edo Tensei. Also sure that we haven't seen how Madara died exactly, but presumably the reason was old age. Likewise how Kabuto found his body to Edo Tensei him is unknown. Actually I'm quite surprised that Madara expects to be revived, because I expected it would cost more energy than Obito has right now. When this happens we will for the first time see a live jinchuurikification. I hope it will be handled well. On June 27 2013 00:48 andrewlt wrote: The Rinnegan ability is Rinne Tensei. It's the one that Nagato used to revive the people he killed in Konoha before he died. When Pain used it to revive the villagers of Konoha, he said "Edo Tensei," if I remember correctly. It is different though, if that's what you meant. It doesn't require the whole ritual with scrolls + kunai. | ||
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Jealous
10332 Posts
On June 27 2013 01:50 MoonPieMat wrote: What was the point of having the "deaths" be genjutsu if a handful of pages later you make them not genjutsu? That feels weak. Also Madara is going to revive himself with Obito's body? Why didn't he do this any time before? Because if one person gets the upper hand in a genjutsu fight, they can use that slight advantage timing to attack or to disable their enemy. Think Sasuke vs. Itachi. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6277 Posts
On June 27 2013 02:59 Jealous wrote: When Pain used it to revive the villagers of Konoha, he said "Edo Tensei," if I remember correctly. It is different though, if that's what you meant. It doesn't require the whole ritual with scrolls + kunai. No it is rinne tensei http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Outer_Path:_Samsara_of_Heavenly_Life_Technique | ||
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