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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
Manga seems so-so, but I’m not really sure how it will play out as an anime. Moro just... doesn’t have much to offer as a villain, and the story arc suffers the same coherency issues that really dragged Buu down as an arc. Stopped bothering with Heroes. It’s just a sloppy fanfic at this point. | ||
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Elentos
55560 Posts
Moro's magic tricks were fun, but now he's just another mega strong power fighter which makes you wonder how the fuck the Supreme Kais ever made any progress on him given that they were weaker than Kid Buu and yet Moro before rejuvenating on Namek would have clapped SSJ 3 Goku (who was pretty close to Kid Buu) and now once rejuvenated claps Ultra Instinct Sign Goku. Ultimately the series hasn't done itself any favors with the introduction of Gods of Destruction either, because one has to be left in a constant state of wondering why Beerus never does jack fucking shit. When people go rampant in the Universe and destroy everything, he sits on the sidelines not intervening - except for dealing with Zamasu but he left his Universe for that. Even though it's his and the Supreme Kai's shared job to make the Universe reach its maximum potential and even though he's been threatened with getting erased for having a low level Universe just in the previous arc - he still just lets Moro eat a lot of the inhabitated planets. And there's no good reason in sight. And of course they've still done my boy Vegeta dirty with 0 meaningful victories and I have to assume it shall stay that way forever. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9006 Posts
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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On May 23 2020 16:18 Elentos wrote: Moro's magic tricks were fun, but now he's just another mega strong power fighter Exactly. Thought they were going to do something special with him - the whole "he's not that strong, we could probably take him under the right circumstances" angle was a really solid one - but then they just didn't follow up. And then they brought Buu back as an ace in the hole and did nothing with him. It's just the same sort of pointless character buildup that deteriorated many of the later DB-series arcs, starting with the Buu arc. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15725 Posts
I mean keep in mind we just saw Goku get totally jobbed. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9006 Posts
On May 29 2020 06:26 Mohdoo wrote: I think you guys are disappointed too soon. He ain't dead. Arc isn't over. Remember how Zenoh fucking erased a universe? Who expected that? No one. It was a garbage idea, but my point is that we should hold off on Moro being just a big buff dude for now. I mean keep in mind we just saw Goku get totally jobbed. Either they give Vegeta a meaningful victory (gonna have to tie with Moro or weaken him severely) or they have Beerus intervene. Or we get Gogeta. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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ZerOCoolSC2
9006 Posts
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ZerOCoolSC2
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Elentos
55560 Posts
On June 28 2020 11:43 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: Vegeta jobbed. Expected but he made it really exciting. It was the usual. Let's see how Moro is defeated. I don't think it'll be Fusion this time. Maybe a Spirit Bomb? Nobody's lost to that yet in Super. Or maybe Beerus gets off his ass. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9006 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On June 28 2020 23:27 Elentos wrote: It was the usual. Let's see how Moro is defeated. I don't think it'll be Fusion this time. Maybe a Spirit Bomb? Nobody's lost to that yet in Super. Or maybe Beerus gets off his ass. Thinking they should bring Buu back for the finale. Otherwise it's some terrible wasted storytelling in the first part of this arc. | ||
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Elentos
55560 Posts
On June 29 2020 02:54 LegalLord wrote: Thinking they should bring Buu back for the finale. Otherwise it's some terrible wasted storytelling in the first part of this arc. Would that prospect surprise anyone though? I also don't know what Buu could really do at this point. Moro is far stronger now than in the beginning of the arc so all Buu's really good for is maybe healing people and sponging some damage. | ||
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Ethelis
United States2397 Posts
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
On June 29 2020 14:04 Ethelis wrote: Vegeta's new technique can undo absorptions. He could free the Grand Supreme Kai from Buu. Kai's God power disappeared with Kid Buu though. He can't use sealing. Goku and Vegeta are both down, so barring fusion I have no idea what could happen. Maybe Beerus will step in, realizing that Moro is bringing down the power level of the universe by killing too many people. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45089 Posts
On June 29 2020 23:01 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: I mean, unless Gohan taps into Mystic like never before, the mortals are screwed. I doubt anything less than Beerus will stop Moro at this point. Ultra Instinct Vegito maybe? I feel like it'd be really anticlimactic if Beerus or an angel just snapped their fingers and insta-ended Moro. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9006 Posts
On July 01 2020 00:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Ultra Instinct Vegito maybe? I feel like it'd be really anticlimactic if Beerus or an angel just snapped their fingers and insta-ended Moro. Vegito needs the earrings, right? Who's there to give those? And they probably won't fusion dance to give us Gogeta either. Also, not sure Vegeta is willing to admit defeat this early or do fusion to tap into UI. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45089 Posts
On July 01 2020 00:57 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: Vegito needs the earrings, right? Who's there to give those? And they probably won't fusion dance to give us Gogeta either. Also, not sure Vegeta is willing to admit defeat this early or do fusion to tap into UI. Theoretically, they should need access to the earrings, but it wouldn't be the first time that some arbitrary retcon or update or convenient *poof* took care of the technicalities surrounding fusion haha. If the writers wanted Vegito, I wouldn't be surprised if a character simply flew right over with new earrings, etc. I dunno about Gohan... he did well in ToP but it would do a huge disservice to Vegeta's recent training to not include him in the actual win against Moro. | ||
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