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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If a chapter or an episode has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has been released or a chapter/episode that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread without spoilers. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
January 24 2021 23:42 GMT
#4201
I like the concept of Vegeta's "I'll beat UI in my own way." I feel like they missed a chance to make the stuff from the Yardrat training stick and whatever Vegeta will learn, it'll end in him just being a second fiddle to Goku against the main villain yet again. If they manage not to do that, or better yet if they also tie back in to the Yardrat stuff, I'd be pleasantly surprised. I have every reason to expect shoddy writing though.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
January 29 2021 01:15 GMT
#4202
On January 25 2021 05:40 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
They didn't have time to hunt those people down, right? I think now that Vegeta is about to get some techniques from Beerus, I'm excited again. I don't wanna see a Toppa 2.0 but something legit really amazing that can be an equal to Goku and UI.


Well, I guess the answer to my question is not Beerus. Was Whis allowed to help look for fighters at the time? I remember telling a former Dragonball fan that doesn't follow anymore that Goku is around SSJ 10 by now.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9077 Posts
January 29 2021 02:09 GMT
#4203
I think most angels know who is in the universe. Beerus doesn't give a shit and more than likely, if Goku hadn't Yamcha'd the meeting with Zeno, nothing would have changed drastically. Maybe Broly but that's it.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-29 02:54:51
January 29 2021 02:54 GMT
#4204
and here I am reading these comments after the last dragon ball super anime arc and wondering how crazy things must've gotten if someone can actually challenge UI Goku in the same universe considering that even the gods can't achieve UI level consistently. What kind of silly writing is this? lol.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
February 19 2021 19:05 GMT
#4205
A new chapter is out and Beerus was probably the best part, what a twist
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9077 Posts
February 19 2021 20:52 GMT
#4206
That part was good. The rest...fucking hell they just give these things out like halloween candy.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-19 22:09:03
February 19 2021 22:05 GMT
#4207
On January 29 2021 11:54 BigFan wrote:
and here I am reading these comments after the last dragon ball super anime arc and wondering how crazy things must've gotten if someone can actually challenge UI Goku in the same universe considering that even the gods can't achieve UI level consistently. What kind of silly writing is this? lol.


Just wanted to say here that this is explained in the Manga, and it's explained well.

Depending on who you're talking about it could be a big spoiler, so I'll just say it has something to do with the angels.

But here are some mild spoilers:

If you're talking about Gods of Destruction there are two things: Even though they call it mastered ultra instinct he hasn't really mastered it. In StarCraft 2 terms let's say he became a pro, but there is a big gap between that and wining the GSL or being remotely on the level of top players, Goku still has a long way to go.

And it is explained that UI is not the only technique of the GoDs. It's the main one the angels use, but there are other things...Beerus knows Ul but doesn't focus on it because you need to be calm and that's not exactly useful or fitting for a god of destruction. I'll leave it at that. Also remember Jiren didn't have god ki and was fighting UI Goku alright.
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Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3274 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-19 15:24:26
March 18 2021 23:04 GMT
#4208
I feel like the current setup would be so much better if they took some more time to introduce Granolah. The singular elements make sense, but we didn't really have a lot of time to get attached.

Also Granolah replacing Freezer would be perfect for the Heeters, since + Show Spoiler +
he'll die quickly after.
So that part wasn't very strong imo. The army is a fairly weak reason imo if you are a rich trader, because either you are strong enough to subdue them and then don't really need an army or aren't and then aren't.
low gravity, yes-yes!
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
June 03 2021 19:59 GMT
#4209
Not really fond of these manga-only arcs. Their power scaling leaves much to be desired, and the way UI just got sidestepped by new underdeveloped villain feels silly. Not sure if they’re going to try to make this into anime but I hope not because it wouldn’t be any good.

On a different topic, found another DBS parody I wanted to share:
+ Show Spoiler [Zamasu Arc] +
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-03 20:39:52
June 03 2021 20:39 GMT
#4210
Definitely thinks look bleak for this arc already. I find the new guy's power-up to be stupid. He became the strongest mortal in the universe with a Dragon Ball wish. So far, so good. Except he didn't use the Super Dragon Balls like Zamasu, or even the Namekian or Earth DBs. He used a single rinky-dink backwater Dragon Ball. Makes no sense for that Dragon to be able to turn him into the strongest even with a 3 year time limit. And then the fight starts and Goku goes through his transformations again for no reason other than to waste 20 pages in that chapter for Vegeta to think about what race in particular is holding a grudge on the Saiyans today.

Never mind the fact that Goku should really beat this guy with Ultra Instinct rather easily but probably won't for story purposes. He's honed his martial arts for like 40 years. He shouldn't lose to a guy worse at fighting just because said guy has a higher power level all of a sudden.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 04 2021 15:20 GMT
#4211
The series has just gone on too long. They are just pulling villains out of their ass with the most ridiculous backstories. The multiverse thing is interesting but other than that, most villains in the series were given stupid power-ups to be at the same level as Goku.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
June 24 2021 20:17 GMT
#4212
On June 05 2021 00:20 andrewlt wrote:
The series has just gone on too long. They are just pulling villains out of their ass with the most ridiculous backstories. The multiverse thing is interesting but other than that, most villains in the series were given stupid power-ups to be at the same level as Goku.


The last two arc seems especially mind boggling, they set up two clear path forward, a rematch with Berus and the whole multiverse thing then choosed to scrap all that for Goku and Vegeta vs random overpower space vilain take 52
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46692 Posts
June 24 2021 20:37 GMT
#4213
On June 25 2021 05:17 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2021 00:20 andrewlt wrote:
The series has just gone on too long. They are just pulling villains out of their ass with the most ridiculous backstories. The multiverse thing is interesting but other than that, most villains in the series were given stupid power-ups to be at the same level as Goku.


The last two arc seems especially mind boggling, they set up two clear path forward, a rematch with Berus and the whole multiverse thing then choosed to scrap all that for Goku and Vegeta vs random overpower space vilain take 52


Yeah, there are so many interesting arcs that can be explored if the Z fighters travel to other universes, not to mention this newest villain didn't "earn" his power in any interesting, respectable way.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
June 24 2021 22:26 GMT
#4214
On June 25 2021 05:17 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2021 00:20 andrewlt wrote:
The series has just gone on too long. They are just pulling villains out of their ass with the most ridiculous backstories. The multiverse thing is interesting but other than that, most villains in the series were given stupid power-ups to be at the same level as Goku.


The last two arc seems especially mind boggling, they set up two clear path forward, a rematch with Berus and the whole multiverse thing then choosed to scrap all that for Goku and Vegeta vs random overpower space vilain take 52


Yeah it's one thing I can't believe they haven't done yet. I get not doing the Beerus rematch but why not explore the multiverse? So many storylines they can do but they keep adding new villains to universe 6 and act like the others don't exist anymore.
When I think of something else, something will go here
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9077 Posts
July 25 2021 15:18 GMT
#4215
New chapter is out and looks like Vegeta is getting his due finally. REALLY wanna see the color for this as it's probably pretty freaking dope. But if he gets jobbed...
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 25 2021 17:06 GMT
#4216
He's gotten jobbed in all the past chapters, so it'd just be par for the course if it happens again.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9077 Posts
July 25 2021 17:34 GMT
#4217
True. But at least he's gotten his own "UI/God Mode" powers. I'm curious to see how it all works out.
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3274 Posts
July 30 2021 16:21 GMT
#4218
Y hope Vegeta wins a fight for once.
Makes me wonder if the whole arc was just a setup for Vegeta to get a god of destruction power up.
low gravity, yes-yes!
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9077 Posts
September 21 2021 22:31 GMT
#4219
This chapter. I fucking cannot any longer.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 21 2021 23:07 GMT
#4220
I liked the part where they waffled back and forth about who is and isn’t strong enough to win the fight.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
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