• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:48
CEST 14:48
KST 21:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy1GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding0Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. Gypsy to Korea ASL21 General Discussion Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CEST [BSL22] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CEST 🌍 Weekly Foreign Showmatches
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Loot Boxes—Emotions, And Why…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2304 users

Dragon Ball Super Discussion - Page 193

Forum Index > Media & Entertainment
Post a Reply
Prev 1 191 192 193 194 195 212 Next
This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If a chapter or an episode has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has been released or a chapter/episode that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread without spoilers. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5712 Posts
March 22 2018 03:11 GMT
#3841
I agree with people who are saying Gotenks would use stupid tactics and antics and fuck up. But he's also like 100x stronger than Tien and Krillin PUT TOGETHER. He could literally just use his stupid ghost move he made and take out like 80% of the field instantly, 1 ghost per person RIP. Then they would do some gloating, defuse on accident and get kicked off by someone who isn't fodder.

People are really underestimating them, at worst they're a SSJ3 Goku. How is that not an improvement over Tien/Krillin.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 22 2018 04:54 GMT
#3842
Yeah, I really wish we could have gotten Goten and Trunks in the tournament. It really makes no sense, both of them fought Majin Buu and are way stronger than Tien/Krillin. With Fusion their stronger than half of the team.
When I think of something else, something will go here
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
March 22 2018 05:10 GMT
#3843
tbh they have been really annoying in DBS so I was kind of happy they got left behind
Administrator
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
March 22 2018 07:19 GMT
#3844
On March 22 2018 11:36 Shock710 wrote:
Krillin and tien took out 1 person each,.


In the anime. In the manga they were intantly defeated by frost.
Frost is stronger than first time frieza because Piccolo was weaker than Frost in the U6 arc.

Goten/Trunks anmoyance is mainly super anime bad writting (and manga kinda as well)
I guess they decided to let let them age even tough 5 years passed for marketing reasons.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
March 22 2018 14:21 GMT
#3845
With the amount of stupid shit the anime has tossed into the show that the manga just kinda ignored and instead presented something coherant and sensible, I think it is really easy to side with the manga on the topic of "how many people did krillin and Tien eliminate?"

Krillin and Tien doing anything remotely valuable was just fan service. The anime is way worse about this. The manga feels like a much more dignified version of the anime.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
March 22 2018 14:50 GMT
#3846
On March 22 2018 23:21 Mohdoo wrote:
With the amount of stupid shit the anime has tossed into the show that the manga just kinda ignored and instead presented something coherant and sensible, I think it is really easy to side with the manga on the topic of "how many people did krillin and Tien eliminate?"

Krillin and Tien doing anything remotely valuable was just fan service. The anime is way worse about this. The manga feels like a much more dignified version of the anime.

You have to give credit to Roshi's short arc, that was amazing both as fan service and a great piece of Anime right there, one of the most powerful couple episodes in Super really Roshi giving it his all.
The manga will really struggle to top that.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
March 22 2018 14:53 GMT
#3847
The worst thing for me was when 17 was alive, I was super pissed at the writers for undermining the gravity of the episode where he sacrificed himself, and then you'd have the dilemma if you bring back frieza or 17 with super dragonballs (might not be possible with earth ones if 17 actually died in The Void)
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
March 22 2018 14:56 GMT
#3848
It wasn’t really that dramatic. I liked the way they brought him back.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 22 2018 14:57 GMT
#3849
Guys, can stop spoiling the manga please? Use spoiler tags!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23830 Posts
March 22 2018 15:05 GMT
#3850
I can imagine gotenks being more fun in the tournament a lot of ways. I think carelessly eliminating a teammate would be the best of those. But the idea of them being on the bench for all these episodes seems like they would be mostly useless as characters.

Although the one way I could see it is selling the underlying theme about U7 being made up of former enemies, and gotenks being the pinnacle of that, considering their genesis, but they weren't really enemies themselves.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-22 15:12:20
March 22 2018 15:11 GMT
#3851
On March 23 2018 00:05 GreenHorizons wrote:
I can imagine gotenks being more fun in the tournament a lot of ways. I think carelessly eliminating a teammate would be the best of those. But the idea of them being on the bench for all these episodes seems like they would be mostly useless as characters.

Although the one way I could see it is selling the underlying theme about U7 being made up of former enemies, and gotenks being the pinnacle of that, considering their genesis, but they weren't really enemies themselves.


Gotenks taunting Toppo and Jiren from the stands after elimination, spanking himself and all the other things he did against Buu, would be 9999999999999x better than Krillin constantly being like "0_0 Goku!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" over and over.

On March 22 2018 23:50 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 23:21 Mohdoo wrote:
With the amount of stupid shit the anime has tossed into the show that the manga just kinda ignored and instead presented something coherant and sensible, I think it is really easy to side with the manga on the topic of "how many people did krillin and Tien eliminate?"

Krillin and Tien doing anything remotely valuable was just fan service. The anime is way worse about this. The manga feels like a much more dignified version of the anime.

You have to give credit to Roshi's short arc, that was amazing both as fan service and a great piece of Anime right there, one of the most powerful couple episodes in Super really Roshi giving it his all.
The manga will really struggle to top that.


True. The roshi episodes were actually very good.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23830 Posts
March 22 2018 15:15 GMT
#3852
On March 23 2018 00:11 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 00:05 GreenHorizons wrote:
I can imagine gotenks being more fun in the tournament a lot of ways. I think carelessly eliminating a teammate would be the best of those. But the idea of them being on the bench for all these episodes seems like they would be mostly useless as characters.

Although the one way I could see it is selling the underlying theme about U7 being made up of former enemies, and gotenks being the pinnacle of that, considering their genesis, but they weren't really enemies themselves.


Gotenks taunting Toppo and Jiren from the stands after elimination, spanking himself and all the other things he did against Buu, would be 9999999999999x better than Krillin constantly being like "0_0 Goku!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" over and over.

Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 23:50 LemOn wrote:
On March 22 2018 23:21 Mohdoo wrote:
With the amount of stupid shit the anime has tossed into the show that the manga just kinda ignored and instead presented something coherant and sensible, I think it is really easy to side with the manga on the topic of "how many people did krillin and Tien eliminate?"

Krillin and Tien doing anything remotely valuable was just fan service. The anime is way worse about this. The manga feels like a much more dignified version of the anime.

You have to give credit to Roshi's short arc, that was amazing both as fan service and a great piece of Anime right there, one of the most powerful couple episodes in Super really Roshi giving it his all.
The manga will really struggle to top that.


True. The roshi episodes were actually very good.



You've convinced me. Charge the writers with the appropriate crimes >.<

Agreed on Roshi too.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
March 22 2018 15:29 GMT
#3853
I think a few chapters ago Vegeta and a few others were adamant about not letting the kids into the fight. Dad being dad I guess, and I probably wouldn't want my 5y old fighting against a bunch of other warriors (I'm not Goku though).
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
March 22 2018 15:46 GMT
#3854
On March 23 2018 00:05 GreenHorizons wrote:
I can imagine gotenks being more fun in the tournament a lot of ways. I think carelessly eliminating a teammate would be the best of those.

There’s a great way he could do more harm that good.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
March 22 2018 16:18 GMT
#3855
On March 23 2018 00:29 Dark_Chill wrote:
I think a few chapters ago Vegeta and a few others were adamant about not letting the kids into the fight. Dad being dad I guess, and I probably wouldn't want my 5y old fighting against a bunch of other warriors (I'm not Goku though).


I hated this because it violated saiyan philosophy. They send babies to conquer worlds. Vegeta beats the shit out of Trunks. To me, it was borderline dishonorable for Trunks and Goten to not be given the opportunity to fight and die for their universe. Saiyans don't fear death, they fear inaction. It would be proper for Trunks and Goten, even if they were weak, to be given the opportunity to fight. The fact that they are insannnnnnnnnnnnnely strong and would likely wipe out entire universes themselves only makes the situation even harder to swallow.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 22 2018 17:02 GMT
#3856
Vegeta has changed from the past. Sure, he might cling to some of the old philosophy but I doubt that was one of them.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
March 22 2018 17:48 GMT
#3857
On March 23 2018 02:02 BigFan wrote:
Vegeta has changed from the past. Sure, he might cling to some of the old philosophy but I doubt that was one of them.


mmmmmm...maybe. But the idea of not letting a saiyan get beat up is really fucking stupid. That is like chichi levels of stupid bullshit. I understand what you are saying, with stuff like "My bulma", but preventing Trunks from fighting for his own survival is many steps further than other glimpses of Vegeta's softer side.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
March 22 2018 18:35 GMT
#3858
I would say that it would be less like the current Vegeta to put Trunks into a life-or-death situation he wasn't properly perpared for. I could see Cell/Buu Intermission saga Vegeta do that, but not the one in Super. He's just not suited for the task, let's not put him there when inevitably little children in situations like that will fuck up in terrible ways and do more harm than someone who just does nothing and gets knocked out.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
March 22 2018 18:50 GMT
#3859
The real reason they didn't bring Trunks and Goten is because they would have started playing with the Zenos and they'd have lost interest in the tournament.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
March 22 2018 19:48 GMT
#3860
The anger that Vegeta felt when Cabba was knocked off. Now imagine that was Trunks. Or Goten. You're telling me you wouldn't want to see that?
Prev 1 191 192 193 194 195 212 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 11h 13m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech109
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 6027
Sea 2751
Jaedong 2664
Bisu 2121
firebathero 611
Mini 445
Light 377
Hyuk 376
Stork 376
EffOrt 338
[ Show more ]
ZerO 335
actioN 322
Rush 241
Snow 211
Soulkey 189
Pusan 173
ggaemo 154
Killer 149
Leta 122
hero 104
Sharp 103
Hyun 73
Backho 63
NaDa 61
Sea.KH 60
Aegong 58
[sc1f]eonzerg 57
Free 48
ToSsGirL 45
sorry 42
Shinee 41
Barracks 41
scan(afreeca) 41
JulyZerg 38
JYJ 37
HiyA 30
Nal_rA 29
GoRush 19
Icarus 18
Bale 17
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
Sacsri 12
IntoTheRainbow 9
Rock 9
SilentControl 7
Dota 2
Gorgc5363
qojqva682
syndereN86
Counter-Strike
olofmeister4578
markeloff98
edward72
Other Games
singsing2237
Liquid`RaSZi1042
B2W.Neo641
Lowko291
crisheroes274
XaKoH 207
Mew2King41
ArmadaUGS39
ZerO(Twitch)13
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL18178
Other Games
BasetradeTV1202
StarCraft 2
WardiTV558
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 7
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos3123
Other Games
• WagamamaTV193
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
11h 13m
WardiTV Team League
22h 13m
Replay Cast
1d 11h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 21h
WardiTV Team League
1d 22h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL
2 days
n0maD vs perroflaco
TerrOr vs ZZZero
MadiNho vs WolFix
DragOn vs LancerX
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
BSL
3 days
Sterling vs Azhi_Dahaki
Napoleon vs Mazur
Jimin vs Nesh
spx vs Strudel
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.