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Juliette
United States6003 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Wow, Holy Grail Feat Justin Timberlake. Nice!!! Fuckwithmeyouknowigotit Feat Rick Ross, AWESOME! Loving the feel on this. So far the album feels more of a mixtape just chilled and made so calmly without any pressure etc. Makes it awesome chill out to listen too Oceans Feat Frank Ocean - This is the best tune so far, great lyrics and nice beat F.U.T.W - Pure Jay Z, awesome beat, great lyrics, excellent rap Heaven - Another great Jay Z beat and lyrics. Awesome Part II (On The Run) Feat Beyoncé - wasn't that good "/ I was thinkig to myself this could be like Bonnie & Clyde level song, but damn it didn't live up to that ;_; BBC - Nice finish to the album, good solid song! Overall i'd give it an 8/10. Blueprint 3 >>>>> all over this imo. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
What's so wrong about referencing Starcraft II in a fucking rap song? How about 'keeping it real'? Ever heard that phrase? Real MCs don't make music for privileged white kids who never had to struggle in their entire lives, they make music kids in the hood can relate to. You don't even seem to know what rap is all about so don't get all mad when someone doesn't have love for your wack sell out pop singers. This is the dumbest thing I've heard in my entire life. You realize you are from fucking AUSTRIA right? Do you know how many street fighter references there are in rap? (hint: a lot) Last Emperor has made two long long long songs about comic book heroes battling famous MCs: There are a ton of rappers who WERE white kids; Macklemore, Prof, Aesop Rock, Sadistik, Soul Khan... Not all rap has to be hard (even though I probably listen to an equal amount of both). EDIT: You know who else referenced video games in their songs? The Notorious Fucking B.I.G. Guess he isn't real enough. Street Fighter album by Ryu Black / MeccaGodZilla. He was born in Brooklyn, is that enough for you or no? http://manafestvisionmedia.bandcamp.com/album/perfect Also; http://megaranmusic.com/ | ||
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andyrau
13015 Posts
rappers reference every part of the culture that we all experience, from pussy to street violence to fashion to politics. video games is somewhere in the span of topics and although it shouldn't be the sole reason you listen to a song, I don't see how that automatically makes a rapper 'soft'. eminem, that token white kid, had one of the best LPs in the last decade. lil wayne was actually one of the best rappers in the scene before he took the Hov route too far and sold out completely. Listen to his technique on Tha Mobb before you continue to lump him into one of those 'inane mainstream pop-rappers'. | ||
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wingpawn
Poland1342 Posts
On July 04 2013 07:35 DuckS wrote: Did someone mention Wu-Tang? Time for one of my favorites - best fucking intro of all time. + Show Spoiler + High five man, the album is amazing. However, to me, the closer by Killah Priest is the highlight: + Show Spoiler [B.I.B.L.E.] + Clipse has sweet droning beat here: + Show Spoiler [Trill] + And what about heavily sampled abstract electronic hip-hop? Anyone? + Show Spoiler [insane Amon Tobin] + + Show Spoiler [latest Machinedrum] + | ||
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
Also you think the average guy from the hood can relate to Jay-Z when he raps about his hundreds of millions of dollars or Kanye West when he raps about copping the latest Louis Vouiton, or MF doom when he raps about being a super villain. Hip-hop is about expressing yourself, some people will like it because they can relate and others will like it because they like how it sounds. | ||
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Soulstice
United States288 Posts
My favorite video game / nerd reference comes from Del tha Funkee Homosapien: "Me and El-P are super powers like the US and USSR, blow you like the death star, leaving your chest scared like Sagat" + Show Spoiler + | ||
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decaf
Austria1797 Posts
I just pick the worst fighting grounds possible. Go to rapmusic.com, ask people what they'd think about a Starcraft II reference in a rap song and get stomped out. You people get your feelings hurt and don't know where to draw the line between fucking comic books and a 2012 video game. Did I say any video game reference was wack? No. I said I have no respect for a Starcraft II reference. But instead of trying to understand the difference you get all mad. "The Wu mentions comic books all the time, look GFK even calls himself Ironman." It's not the fucking same. Watch this interview + Show Spoiler + Method Man had no fucking video games, because he couldn't afford 'em. You are from SWEDEN, my nigga. A country only known for its alcohol problems and gaming addicts, and you're one of em (and a failed one at that). If you think the statement that rap music is actually for black children is dumbest thing you ever heard then you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Like it or not, but 'keeping it real' is key in the rap game, even tho sometimes it's taken too far. If you watched some interviews you'd know that. Ofc you can do rap if you didn't grow up in the projects, but you can't pretend to be a thug if you never set foot in the hood, you can't rep the streets if you aren't from the streets, does this concept make sense to you? And if you fucking reference Starcraft II in a rap track then you simply aren't from the streets. Eminem grew up in Detroit, Necro and Non Phixion come straight from the projects, they didn't have it any easier. Hip Hop is about teachig the younger generation and giving them kids in the hood something they can relate to. And when I say black kids I don't mean black kids exclusively, imagine that. At least that's what it is for me, if your definition of rap is Lil Wayne then be it, but don't get all mad when others have no love for your shit. | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On July 05 2013 03:03 decaf wrote: @Jinro I just pick the worst fighting grounds possible. Go to rapmusic.com, ask people what they'd think about a Starcraft II reference in a rap song and get stomped out. rapmusic.com? the site that has a huge forum entirely focused on rap battles, which consist mostly of fancy wordplay based around gun names, pop culture and.... video games? just saying. that site doesn't agree with you, by and large. trust me, i got like 2k posts on it. and I agree that spitting rhymes about starcraft 2 and then claiming to be from the hood is kinda phony, but i don't think there's anything wrong with NOT being from the hood and still being a rapper. 'keeping it real' just means you stand for what you actually are, whatever that might be. it is then up to the listeners if they like you or not, but there's nothing intrinsicially wrong with participating in the culture of hiphop without being a 'gangsta'. also, the song in question doesn't have a starcraft 2 reference in the first place. i know decaf realized that, but i'm not sure that some others did. | ||
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iNsaNe-
Finland5201 Posts
On July 05 2013 04:00 Schelim wrote: rapmusic.com? the site that has a huge forum entirely focused on rap battles, which consist mostly of fancy wordplay based around gun names, pop culture and.... video games? just saying. that site doesn't agree with you, by and large. trust me, i got like 2k posts on it. and I agree that spitting rhymes about starcraft 2 and then claiming to be from the hood is kinda phony, but i don't think there's anything wrong with NOT being from the hood and still being a rapper. 'keeping it real' just means you stand for what you actually are, whatever that might be. it is then up to the listeners if they like you or not, but there's nothing intrinsicially wrong with participating in the culture of hiphop without being a 'gangsta'. also, the song in question doesn't have a starcraft 2 reference in the first place. i know decaf realized that, but i'm not sure that some others did. This pretty much. No one has done SC2 quotes and on next song talked about the hoods of Detroit. And  at calling Jinro out for being from Sweden and saying "my nigga", especially when you're from Austria yourself. | ||
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farvacola
United States18838 Posts
"Blowin on that Indo, Gamecube nintendo"  | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
On July 05 2013 04:00 Schelim wrote: and I agree that spitting rhymes about starcraft 2 and then claiming to be from the hood is kinda phony, but i don't think there's anything wrong with NOT being from the hood and still being a rapper. 'keeping it real' just means you stand for what you actually are, whatever that might be. it is then up to the listeners if they like you or not, but there's nothing intrinsicially wrong with participating in the culture of hiphop without being a 'gangsta'. While I agree with what you said, I think you took what he said about sc2 compared to comic books out of context (at least in the post that he explained himself.) One of the reasons I don't like over-intellectualizing hip hop (or music, really) is that music is really meant to make you feel emotions and bring feelings inside of you. We can always wonder if we like the lyrics or not on a certain song, but we usually know if we like it by the feeling/emotion it gives us. | ||
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Dali.
New Zealand689 Posts
On July 05 2013 03:16 MassHysteria wrote: I was gonna jump in and defend decaf a little bit (but saw he did already) by saying that he specifically mentioned the starcraft 2 scene, which actually has a pretty high price-barrier of entry if you think about it. You need to have a good computer, internet connection, buy the game, and have the time. Rappers talking about expensive things? Well I never  Decaf is just another side to the 'real' hiphop coin where anything outside of his conception of 'real' is destroying the genre. On July 05 2013 03:03 decaf wrote: 'keeping it real' is key in the rap game, even tho sometimes it's taken too far. If you watched some interviews you'd know that. Ofc you can do rap if you didn't grow up in the projects, but you can't pretend to be a thug if you never set foot in the hood, you can't rep the streets if you aren't from the streets, does this concept make sense to you? And if you fucking reference Starcraft II in a rap track then you simply aren't from the streets. Just incase anyone is questioning the credibility of the guy who spits the line that's left us all up in arms. His name is El-P. He is from...... Brooklyn. He is...... 38. He was born two years after BIG and a year and a half after Nas. He has been in the game a loooong time with a lot of success. He owns an independent label that has Aesop and Del on its roster. In my eyes, the dude can do whatever the hell he wants. He's super important to the entire alternative hiphop scene. Some Shabazz Palaces to atone + Show Spoiler + | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
On July 05 2013 06:17 Dali. wrote: Rappers talking about expensive things? Well I never Decaf is just another side to the 'real' hiphop coin where anything outside of his conception of 'real' is destroying the genre. Did you not read the part where I said he took it out of context? Or did you just decide to do the same thing again ^^? And I am not defending decaf, don't take it that way. I am just clearing up what was missed by people since he isn't here to contend his view... And to whoever is going to KRS One show, niice. He came to my undergrad uni once to do a free lecture on hip hop and a small show <3 + Show Spoiler + I forgot which UFC figher I saw come out to "Step into a World" a while ago. Best intro ever =P | ||
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Holy Grail (feat. Justin Timberlake) - Justin Timberlake is one of my favourite male singers and he's great on this track. Jay-Z kills his 2nd verse. Picasso Baby - Tom Ford - I didn't really like this 2 songs the beats are alright especcially Tom Ford which is this weird kind of trippy sound with drums kind of dope. Both beats seem really hard to flow over and it just sounds kind of harsh to listen to, like a lot of the songs off Yeezus actually. Apparently both these songs were produced by Timbaland. FuckWithMeYouKnowIGotIt (feat. Rick Ross) - This is a typical Rick Ross track, the beat is nice to listen to and Rick Ross Spits some mediocre rhymes over it. Jay-Z lowers himself to Rick Ross's level here, this is by far the worst track so far. Oceans (feat. Frank Ocean) - One of my other favourite singers here. Jay-Z's first verse is alright, but his 2nd one is a lot better. F.U.T.W - I'll have to listen to this song more to see what I think, I didn't like it at the start but I kind of wanted to listen to it again by the end. Somewhere In America - Aka the Miley Cyrus is still twerking song. I love this beat though. Crown - This song wasn't really anything special, but apparently the beat was made by some 16 year old Canadian girl, which is pretty cool for her. Heaven - I keep starting to write how forgettable the songs are and then Jay-Z's 2nd verse makes me change my mind. Part II (On the Run) (feat. Beyonce) - A love song with his wife. It's not really my cup of tea but if guys weren't jealous of Jay-Z already he makes Beyonce sound awesome and she sings about them making love in the hook. BBC (feat. Nas, Justin Timberlake, Beyonce, Swizz Beatz, Pharrell & Timbaland - Looking at the album credits I think this song would excite the most people but it's pretty disappointing, the beats alright, Jay-Z and Nas' verses aren't anything special. I've got no idea why there are so many features JT and Beyonce don't do anything as far as I can tell I guess it's possible that Swizz Beatz, Pharell & Timbaland could have all produced it but idk. I hate this trend of listing artists as features when they're not. Eg. 'I am a God (featuring God)' and 'Otis (featuring Otis Redding)' (it was a fucking sample!) The last 3 songs seem like the most deep on the album so I want to listen to them a few more times before I comment on them. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9716 Posts
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
but yeah, its fucking godly, one of my favorite things released this year. Seriously excited for Channo in the future. | ||
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
On July 05 2013 03:03 decaf wrote: Method Man had no fucking video games, because he couldn't afford 'em. You are from SWEDEN, my nigga. A country only known for its alcohol problems and gaming addicts, and you're one of em (and a failed one at that). Not that's a low blow if I ever saw one >:/ And seeing how Jinro's back to back ro4s in the GSL inspired the foreign community at a time when (I assume) people were wondering if the Korean skill gap was going to remain at BW levels, I'd hardly say his career failed. | ||
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