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Flingoko
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark68 Posts
April 13 2013 06:24 GMT
#61
I love the scene where Hannibal tells Lounds that she´s been a naughty girl and then immediately after we see Jack and Hannibal eating some kind of exotic pork. Are they eating her?!

However I am not really liking the Will Graham guy.
Brainsurgeon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden359 Posts
April 13 2013 06:27 GMT
#62
On April 13 2013 15:24 Flingoko wrote:
I love the scene where Hannibal tells Lounds that she´s been a naughty girl and then immediately after we see Jack and Hannibal eating some kind of exotic pork. Are they eating her?!

However I am not really liking the Will Graham guy.

No, Lounds is to appear in all 13 episodes, according to IMDB.
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Dekker
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany169 Posts
April 13 2013 06:42 GMT
#63
Besides the IMDB hint, we saw her that very same episode again, too... She called the police after the fungus guy shot the officer...
Flingoko
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark68 Posts
April 13 2013 07:11 GMT
#64
Yeah, i know. But I was unaware when i saw the scene
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 13 2013 07:18 GMT
#65
On April 13 2013 14:11 Kenpark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 07:12 wei2coolman wrote:
Criminal Minds have been doing that forever.


I dont know Criminal Minds, but I guess its just a regular murder case every episode kind of show ? That is completely fine with me. But here we have a crazy criminal case every episode with multiple victims. I mean how many cases of serial killers there even have been in lets say the last 5 years in the US ?
I dont know for me it seems rly implausible.
I really really want to like this show, as I very much enjoyed all the Hannibal movies, but if this continues in this pace I´m gonna abondon it.

It's about group of fbi agents that deal with catching serial killers/rapists/spree killers/etc.etc., most of the bad guys are usually psychopaths or sociopaths.

There's a real life stat though that estimates that there a lot of active serial killers in america,. Not totally unrealistic, but it definitely dulls the story a bit.
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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
April 13 2013 07:28 GMT
#66
On April 09 2013 05:46 Kazeyonoma wrote:
i tried to like this and i'll give it a few more episodes, but i feel like it's trying very hard to fill the gap that dexter will be leaving, but they haven't created any likable characters.

The main guy is too weird, and he lacks any human emotion that people can relate to. Hannibal is unlikable because well he's Hannibal and you know he's ultimately a bad guy, and Lawrence Fishburne is just your stereotypical cop.

I feel like they gave up true character development and good writing (letting you fill in the gaps for obvious stuff, and not having them DETAIL EVERYTHING) in exchange for some 'horror' special effect scenes.


That's incredibly curious to me - because I feel that in the first two season (which is all I could force myself to sit through of dexter) they didn't form a single interesting character, let a lone a likeable one.

In contrast, I find Will Graham to be a character that I can..... empathize with. Incredibly well. If the rest of the show continues as the first two episodes have gone, then dexter ought to be thought of as nothing more than a joke that went on way too long.
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
April 13 2013 07:48 GMT
#67
Well, seems like they decided to limit the esoteric crime re-living trash to once per episode. I'll give it some more time then. The dialogue writing is occasionally intelligent, but overall lacking. So far it's a 6-7/10. Let's see how it developes.
Dekker
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany169 Posts
April 13 2013 08:29 GMT
#68
On April 13 2013 16:11 Flingoko wrote:
Yeah, i know. But I was unaware when i saw the scene


Ah ok, I missinterpreted your post then, sorry .

Well over all till now the series did good in my oppinion. Lets wait and see how the Season turns out. Pinning a series down on 1 or 2 episodes is sometimes not giving a series the justice it deserves. Until now though, and judying by the trailers I think its going to get better in the later episodes.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
April 14 2013 04:06 GMT
#69
On April 13 2013 15:42 Dekker wrote:
Besides the IMDB hint, we saw her that very same episode again, too... She called the police after the fungus guy shot the officer...


Plus she's Lounds. She's not going to die unless Francis Dolarhyde is introduced and I seriously doubt that will ever happen.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
April 14 2013 04:09 GMT
#70
On April 14 2013 13:06 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 15:42 Dekker wrote:
Besides the IMDB hint, we saw her that very same episode again, too... She called the police after the fungus guy shot the officer...


Plus she's Lounds. She's not going to die unless Francis Dolarhyde is introduced and I seriously doubt that will ever happen.


Dollarhyde is apparently going to show up in Season 4.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32748 Posts
April 14 2013 04:13 GMT
#71
So if the TV producers are going to bring back Dolarhyde, Buffalo Bill is almost certain, as well as Clarice Starling as a supporting or even a main character (like main POV) if they try to stick with the book canon.
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
April 14 2013 04:50 GMT
#72
On April 14 2013 13:09 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 13:06 Mindcrime wrote:
On April 13 2013 15:42 Dekker wrote:
Besides the IMDB hint, we saw her that very same episode again, too... She called the police after the fungus guy shot the officer...


Plus she's Lounds. She's not going to die unless Francis Dolarhyde is introduced and I seriously doubt that will ever happen.


Dollarhyde is apparently going to show up in Season 4.


according to whom?
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
April 14 2013 05:00 GMT
#73
On April 14 2013 13:13 PhoenixVoid wrote:
So if the TV producers are going to bring back Dolarhyde, Buffalo Bill is almost certain, as well as Clarice Starling as a supporting or even a main character (like main POV) if they try to stick with the book canon.

that's actually pretty neat. I'd also like to see a young Verger when he was just a patient of Hannibal's, which isn't too inconceivable if they're having the characters you mentioned make appearances.

Just watched the first two episodes. Hannibal's character is just not doing it for me. I mean he's doing everything that's expected of the role but it still just feels a bit stale. I guess it's still a bit early.

Also, Graham is not at all like how I pictured him in the books lol.
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
April 14 2013 06:05 GMT
#74
I wish graham was less of a brooding emo pussy, but i love hannibal
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Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
April 14 2013 21:13 GMT
#75
Well I finally got a chance to watch the first two episodes and while its certainly an interesting concept and kept me entertained (also WTF is Scott Thompson doing in this show, LOLOLOLOL), it raises questions about the longevity of this show. If this is a 2-3 season affair I can see this being a potentially very good show, but beyond that I'm not sure that they could effectively drag it out and maintain audience interest.
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s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-14 21:48:58
April 14 2013 21:39 GMT
#76
On April 14 2013 13:06 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 15:42 Dekker wrote:
Besides the IMDB hint, we saw her that very same episode again, too... She called the police after the fungus guy shot the officer...


Plus she's Lounds. She's not going to die unless Francis Dolarhyde is introduced and I seriously doubt that will ever happen.


I'm confused as to why they needed this character to be Freddie/y Lounds . Just to fit in someone that is in the books/movies ? Not to mention Lounds was a guy originally.
Nevermind86
Profile Joined August 2009
Somalia429 Posts
April 14 2013 23:51 GMT
#77
The acting most of the time was garbage, the characters are total garbage and speak and behave in totally unrealistic ways except of course Mr. Hannibal himself which is the main character really and looked like a worthy succesor of the original portray of Hannibal, (well not really but it's tv, so...) a sophisticated sociopath, he was totally macabre, except the exagerated accent, but whatever. It looked totally fairy talish the way they make assumptions about criminal profiling like how they came to the conclusion that it was a father trying to kill his daughter or whatever, it was totally unreasonable, now I know it's only entertainment but they streched that a way too much, the only real good part of the first episode was the ending, where the guy slices the girl's throat and what happened after that, that was worth the watch.

The many one liners and bad acting before getting there almost sent me to sleep early, the scene in the bathroom where Fishbourne screams "go to the ladies room", or when he meets Hannibal and confuses the Dr. with the patient leaving the room while the real doctor was standing in the door, I don't see how you would not recognize the owner of the office when one is leaving and one is standing by the door saying good bye... or when Fishbourne refers himself as a layman in a rather odd way, w/e, or how they portrait the professor turned detective, he's not supposed to be a pussy from what I remenber of the original movies, which I'm a huge fan of, he seemed like a total pussy while in the movie he was a shady smart dude but with a lot of ballz and imagination and not some nerd professor that seemed to teach art instead of forensics. Ok I have to repeat, the way they portrayed the 'psicological profiling' was the worse, it was total garbage how they made so many unreasonable asumptions, it makes the series dumb and not smart like they try to, they try to portray the characters as super men super smart but it's so unrealistic that I cannot see anyone feeling identified with such hollywoodesque characters, the whole point of Hannibal is that he is this super smart doctor that is sophisticated but likes to eat people but that you would never know if you met him, but you would suspect he's hiding something.
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unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
April 14 2013 23:59 GMT
#78
On April 15 2013 08:51 Nevermind86 wrote:
The acting most of the time was garbage, the characters are total garbage and speak and behave in totally unrealistic ways except of course Mr. Hannibal himself which is the main character really and looked like a worthy succesor of the original portray of Hannibal, (well not really but it's tv, so...) a sophisticated sociopath, he was totally macabre, except the exagerated accent, but whatever. It looked totally fairy talish the way they make assumptions about criminal profiling like how they came to the conclusion that it was a father trying to kill his daughter or whatever, it was totally unreasonable, now I know it's only entertainment but they streched that a way too much, the only real good part of the first episode was the ending, where the guy slices the girl's throat and what happened after that, that was worth the watch.

The many one liners and bad acting before getting there almost sent me to sleep early, the scene in the bathroom where Fishbourne screams "go to the ladies room", or when he meets Hannibal and confuses the Dr. with the patient leaving the room while the real doctor was standing in the door, I don't see how you would not recognize the owner of the office when one is leaving and one is standing by the door saying good bye... or when Fishbourne refers himself as a layman in a rather odd way, w/e, or how they portrait the professor turned detective, he's not supposed to be a pussy from what I remenber of the original movies, which I'm a huge fan of, he seemed like a total pussy while in the movie he was a shady smart dude but with a lot of ballz and imagination and not some nerd professor that seemed to teach art instead of forensics. Ok I have to repeat, the way they portrayed the 'psicological profiling' was the worse, it was total garbage how they made so many unreasonable asumptions, it makes the series dumb and not smart like they try to, they try to portray the characters as super men super smart but it's so unrealistic that I cannot see anyone feeling identified with such hollywoodesque characters, the whole point of Hannibal is that he is this super smart doctor that is sophisticated but likes to eat people but that you would never know if you met him, but you would suspect he's hiding something.


Well you are being overly harsh tbh. There are a few things that bug me however:

1. The support cast is crap, like i hate all of them and it feels like they have 0 purpose, i´m talking about the FBI team with the asian girl in the lead.
2. Fishburne is immediately overly weirdly friendly with Hannibal, even more so in the later episodes. I get that they want to show Hannibal as someone people somehow are drawn too, but they´re overdoing it.

Other then this you also seem to be rambling and demand a lot more of a show then i would guess from someone complaining a character is "too much of a pussy" and "had a lot of ballz" and so on. It's a TV show, on a TV budget. You won´t get Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal. And the whole point of the re-enactments as people whine about, is to show how he thinks. "Takes one to know one" sort of way, it´s hard to portray thoughts out in the open on film unless you do some inner monologue, they chose to show it instead with imagery. It would be better however if he was wrong sometimes, this would make the point across that this is how he theorizes instead of magically knowing how everything went down as many people interprets these segments.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 15 2013 00:14 GMT
#79
I liked the whole "laymen" part though; it shows much respect hannibal lecter deserves, in terms of his expertise.
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calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
April 15 2013 00:19 GMT
#80
On April 15 2013 09:14 wei2coolman wrote:
I liked the whole "laymen" part though; it shows much respect hannibal lecter deserves, in terms of his expertise.
Respect, yeah, but I feel that there's even more present than that. I interpreted it as Lawrence being modest and using the phrase somewhat tongue-in-cheek. Sort of like he's probing Hannibal to see how he responds to praise. Kind of sizing him up through banter to help him form an opinion. But Hannibal is very aware of the conversation beneath the conversation so the gleaned insight is limited.
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