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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
The main guy is too weird, and he lacks any human emotion that people can relate to. Hannibal is unlikable because well he's Hannibal and you know he's ultimately a bad guy, and Lawrence Fishburne is just your stereotypical cop. I feel like they gave up true character development and good writing (letting you fill in the gaps for obvious stuff, and not having them DETAIL EVERYTHING) in exchange for some 'horror' special effect scenes. | ||
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WalkinDead
88 Posts
On April 07 2013 21:38 Isualin wrote: + Show Spoiler + Watching dr. lecter slice the lungs of the girl and make a meal out of it felt incredibly weird. I can't watch this show. it was pretty gruesome. However, I feel like Dr. Lecter is gonna be like the main genius-gentleman serial killer and hannibal will be helping the feds to get lecter, just my thoughts on where the tv series is going | ||
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nomyx
United States2205 Posts
after graham deducts that the killer is eating his victim, we jump to Hannibal eating a nice meal. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On April 09 2013 05:46 Kazeyonoma wrote: i tried to like this and i'll give it a few more episodes, but i feel like it's trying very hard to fill the gap that dexter will be leaving, but they haven't created any likable characters. The main guy is too weird, and he lacks any human emotion that people can relate to. Hannibal is unlikable because well he's Hannibal and you know he's ultimately a bad guy, and Lawrence Fishburne is just your stereotypical cop. I feel like they gave up true character development and good writing (letting you fill in the gaps for obvious stuff, and not having them DETAIL EVERYTHING) in exchange for some 'horror' special effect scenes. That's not fair - it's a freaking pilot episode. Don Draper didn't develop in episode one, neither did Walter White or Tony Soprano. The first episode introduces premise, tone and characters. It's a beautiful show, aesthetically. The colors are deep and it's filmed in a visceral angry way. The premise is at least intriguing, it is Hannibal, after all. You said you don't like the characters but I think the leads are excellent. Will is twitchy, tormented. Hannibal is cold and magnetic. Their chemistry is good. I do think there's some murder-porno issues but that's just kind of a thing they do. Not my favorite either but I do give them credit for being so....direct on network television. | ||
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TigerKarl
1757 Posts
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Aelfric
Turkey1496 Posts
On April 09 2013 16:33 TigerKarl wrote: This show has got some potential, but for me it's all going to be about if they keep emphasizing these supernatural and unscientific things like the re-living crimes, despite trying to be a rather scientific show. It doesn't have anything to do with supernatural, it's about overuse of emphaty and lack of psychological stability. | ||
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TigerKarl
1757 Posts
On April 09 2013 16:42 Aelfric wrote: It doesn't have anything to do with supernatural, it's about overuse of emphaty and lack of psychological stability. nope | ||
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Aelfric
Turkey1496 Posts
The reimagining the scene stuff is just a juice to spice up the show and make pilot more desirable. | ||
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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
On April 09 2013 05:55 WalkinDead wrote: it was pretty gruesome. However, I feel like Dr. Lecter is gonna be like the main genius-gentleman serial killer and hannibal will be helping the feds to get lecter, just my thoughts on where the tv series is going Not sure if i understand u but Hannibal and Dr Lecter = the same guy. | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
On April 09 2013 21:06 unkkz wrote: Not sure if i understand u but Hannibal and Dr Lecter = the same guy. I think that what he meant to say is that Lecter's going to be helping the Feds in the investigation into a serial killer that is actually, secretly himself. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18233 Posts
On April 08 2013 08:49 Hoon wrote: Have you ever watched / read anything Hannibal? Do you know in which episode he will cross the Alps with his elephants? | ||
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WalkinDead
88 Posts
On April 09 2013 21:16 Praetorial wrote: I think that what he meant to say is that Lecter's going to be helping the Feds in the investigation into a serial killer that is actually, secretly himself. thats what i meant. names never stick with me for the first season xD | ||
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xAshCanaaNx
Philippines150 Posts
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
On April 09 2013 23:40 xAshCanaaNx wrote: I don't watch this show but damn, I wish there was a TV series with Jodie Foster as Clarice Starling and Anthony Hopkins as Lecter Mads Mikkelsen is a damn good actor though. | ||
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Tiwo
Netherlands306 Posts
I hope that I'm right with the facts, but the girl before that, the one that put back in her bed as a "apologize". Her liver got pulled out, and put back in because she had cancer by the real serial killed, and was uneatable, does that mean the real serial killer was a cannibal as well? | ||
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placebo guy
United States42 Posts
I think the show will feature the capture of Hannibal soon. The show will then be diverted into two story arcs. -Hannibal as the consultant for the FBI on future serial killer files ala "Buffalo Bill" or "Red Dragon" cases. -Hannibal tormenting Will Graham into a sociopath and Will's eventual demise via the "Red Dragon" movie. Season 2 will then feature Clarice Starling. Hope I'm right. | ||
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
On April 10 2013 01:37 placebo guy wrote:I think the show will feature the capture of Hannibal soon. The show will then be diverted into two story arcs. Nah man, I don't think so. There is a whole lot of plot and action they could potentially utilize before that point. What you suggest may happen but I think it would make much more sense as a major game-changer after 2-4 seasons, kind of reinventing the show and turning over a new leaf/giving it a new life. If they go ahead down that road right away then they miss out on a lot of dramatic irony where the viewers can yell at the characters for not realizing the truth sooner. Its a big gap right now that could be filled with a lot of quality story telling. Moments where he narrowly escapes detection, lucks out, or subtly hints through doublespeak to the police that he is a killer.-Hannibal as the consultant for the FBI on future serial killer files ala "Buffalo Bill" or "Red Dragon" cases. -Hannibal tormenting Will Graham into a sociopath and Will's eventual demise via the "Red Dragon" movie. Season 2 will then feature Clarice Starling. Hope I'm right. That first case did seem quit rushed though for there to be such a buildup of months of unsolved killings so who knows. | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
On April 09 2013 11:06 slyboogie wrote: That's not fair - it's a freaking pilot episode. Don Draper didn't develop in episode one, neither did Walter White or Tony Soprano. The first episode introduces premise, tone and characters. It's a beautiful show, aesthetically. The colors are deep and it's filmed in a visceral angry way. The premise is at least intriguing, it is Hannibal, after all. You said you don't like the characters but I think the leads are excellent. Will is twitchy, tormented. Hannibal is cold and magnetic. Their chemistry is good. I do think there's some murder-porno issues but that's just kind of a thing they do. Not my favorite either but I do give them credit for being so....direct on network television. Like I said, I'll give it a few more episodes because I know the pilot episodes are always a bit more... dumbed down. So i'm curious to see how they'll take this. Will being twitchy and tormented isn't a trait that I find interesting. He's almost TOO stereotypical serial killer. Like they went into the psychology books, looked up Serial Killer, and had him study it ad nauseum. Like I said, i find Hannibal cool, and their interesting chemistry will be the driving part of the story to me, but the role being played for Will is just too weird to me, too stereotypical, and he's unlikeable. He's isn't showing his humanity by being a weirdo, he's alienating himself from the viewership more that way. Think of all of the great shows you listed, the main characters were either likeable, respectable, worshippable, or endearing. All of which are things that we can relate to, that boss you hate but wish you could be, that guy who just wants to do right by his family and will make poor decisions to do so. The tough guy who deep down inside just wants whats best for his family (again). I mean if you come out with a show like this you KNOW they're gonna compare it to Dexter, and Dexter had wit, and showed that he at least pretended to act normal around people because he KNEW he was weird, and it was that fakeness that people could attach themselves to, because we ALL act fake. Will on the other hand, is just weird, he's annoying, he's twitchy, he's in pain, he's that awkward guy that we all work with, but no one likes him because not only is he vastly more intelligent than us, he makes it KNOWN to everyone that he is. no one wants to be friends with that guy. I hope they do something wiht the characters, especially Fishburne, he deserves more than just being the Cop who is the leash to some twitchy man. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17692 Posts
On April 10 2013 08:38 Kazeyonoma wrote: Will on the other hand, is just weird, he's annoying, he's twitchy, he's in pain, he's that awkward guy that we all work with, but no one likes him because not only is he vastly more intelligent than us, he makes it KNOWN to everyone that he is. no one wants to be friends with that guy. That's quite a lot to write about a character after seeing him in one episode. Why were you complaining about him being underdeveloped? You don't necessarily need to have likeable characters you can relate to in the movies (all of them being bad guys for example). Sometimes it's enough if they're interesting and you turn into someone who's watching it with interest while not being as strongly attached to the characters - you become the observer as the story unfolds in front of you. Personally, I didn't like Will as a person either, but as a character he's got a lot of potential. I consider him a Pandora's Box when it comes to the development. And to all who are worried about it going into "Red Dragon", well, it's based on the book, says so right at the start of the show. But there are going to be some (hopefully) interesting mindgames going on between Will and Hannibal; Will slowly succumbing to the darkness, desperately trying to fight it (most likely with the help of the psychiatrist girl) and Hannibal silently manipulating him from the shadows all the time. | ||
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