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SamsungStar
United States912 Posts
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
On February 21 2013 15:59 Arceus wrote: ok Im not really into politic stuff. Should I give this one a shot? maybe for Kevin Spacey alone :p There a lot of political things that happen, but I think its not something that you won't get by just putting on subtitles and paying close attention. A lot of is just Kevin Spacey's acting. My friend and I loooooooooooove his monologues he presents to the audience, they're delivered so perfectly. The show kinda reminds me of Death Note (dont freak out, guys) 'cause of how intimate the audience is to the main character. Also, how almost-sociopathic Underwood is, it's really awesome. I have to say, I got Nerd Chills™ during the last 2 minutes of episode 10 or whichever episode ended with + Show Spoiler + Peter dying and Frank and Claire talking to the press | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
The show continues to present many flaws in it research of modern politic and journalism but most of them cant be noticed by people who dont have much field knowledge. The monologues as well as the no cliffhanger thing really separated this show from others. In a way i feel like it drag people into the character, engaging under the person mind set and get surprised by the development which remove the need of cliff hanging element to attract people to watch the show. | ||
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MidnightGladius
China1214 Posts
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
On February 22 2013 16:41 NB wrote: Comparing this show with Deathnote is quite fair. I love the ruthlessness that the character shown which is also why, as i mentioned before, i quite dislike episode 5-10 where things turn unprofessional. I feel like the only way for people to remain such ruthless is to set out a 'totem' to mark the path they take. If things turn wrong anyhow, those totems will be save points that you could back up and rely upon and by making things unprofessional, the writer loses the fundamentals that created the character from the first place. The show continues to present many flaws in it research of modern politic and journalism but most of them cant be noticed by people who dont have much field knowledge. The monologues as well as the no cliffhanger thing really separated this show from others. In a way i feel like it drag people into the character, engaging under the person mind set and get surprised by the development which remove the need of cliff hanging element to attract people to watch the show. You see, I have to disagree with why you dislike them, I mean im not saying youre wrong, I just dont see eye to eye on that. I think that those episodes show you HOW he got to be where he is at, and why he is so good at what he does. Yes, he goes through some times of uncertainty and 'everything is not going according to plan', but it's how he gets out of it and how it all culminates as a story on ep10 that makes the whole 'trip' worth it. I really enjoyed how many sides of claire and franks personalities seeped through when times weren't "Business as usual". You get to see and how they got to where they got, the whys about some of the choices they made and how they live with themselves. For instance, Claire's 'trip' really develops her character and you get to see what she is willingly rejecting and what it costs. Same with Frank and how he deals with Zoe during this time. Something I really loved about the show (the way it's shot) + Show Spoiler + The scene were Zoe comes into Franks house and tries on Claire's dress and ruins her side of the bed because Zoe feels trapped in a house/life that she doesn't truly have so much control over (spider in jar!). The way the camera focused on Zoe's body and reflection toward Frank while she said her lines was really cool. In general, the camera angles are not show like a soap opera for efficiency of dialogue, it's just done the way the director feels is interesting, I think. And I like the change of pace in that regard. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On February 10 2013 14:20 lac29 wrote: I'm into episode 6 right now and while it's good and "edgy", it's kind of becoming the same old stuff. Good tv, but not great tv imo. Felt the same - it really tapered off after a really strong start. Too much random bullshit. Still very good tho. To be honest, even if it didn't have anything else going for it, it would still be worth watching just for the Kevin Spacey monologues. | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
On February 22 2013 17:03 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Felt the same - it really tapered off after a really strong start. Too much random bullshit. Still very good tho. To be honest, even if it didn't have anything else going for it, it would still be worth watching just for the Kevin Spacey monologues. Haha yes, I'm on Episode 7 and it's a good show but the Spacey monologues are the best part. Small things that bug me are things like Mrs. Underwood's random encounters in the world. First the granny yelling at her, now the bum making origami out of her charity... why? They remind of LOST.. random polar bears in the world that have no real consequence except for creating some drama. Still, Kevin Spacey makes the show. | ||
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biomech
Germany380 Posts
Started watching it after Aaron Paul ("Jesse Pinkman") recommended it on his twitter, got aware of it after an intense Breaking Bad marathon xD Replace the meth with politics, Heisenberg with Underwood, and that's almost it. Quite dark and intriguing... And yo, Kevin Spacey is the bomb! Bitch! | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
I really liked Spacey, I thought he killed the screen and I like the monologues he had. Also, I like the concept that Netflix is now producing original content. Its another step towards getting rid of the cable for good! | ||
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On February 24 2013 00:55 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: I really liked it. I really liked Spacey, I thought he killed the screen and I like the monologues he had. Also, I like the concept that Netflix is now producing original content. Its another step towards getting rid of the cable for good! Loved you in Hercules. Come back to television Kevin! | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On February 22 2013 16:57 tshi wrote: You see, I have to disagree with why you dislike them, I mean im not saying youre wrong, I just dont see eye to eye on that. I think that those episodes show you HOW he got to be where he is at, and why he is so good at what he does. Yes, he goes through some times of uncertainty and 'everything is not going according to plan', but it's how he gets out of it and how it all culminates as a story on ep10 that makes the whole 'trip' worth it. I really enjoyed how many sides of claire and franks personalities seeped through when times weren't "Business as usual". You get to see and how they got to where they got, the whys about some of the choices they made and how they live with themselves. For instance, Claire's 'trip' really develops her character and you get to see what she is willingly rejecting and what it costs. Same with Frank and how he deals with Zoe during this time. Something I really loved about the show (the way it's shot) + Show Spoiler + The scene were Zoe comes into Franks house and tries on Claire's dress and ruins her side of the bed because Zoe feels trapped in a house/life that she doesn't truly have so much control over (spider in jar!). The way the camera focused on Zoe's body and reflection toward Frank while she said her lines was really cool. In general, the camera angles are not show like a soap opera for efficiency of dialogue, it's just done the way the director feels is interesting, I think. And I like the change of pace in that regard. Definitely, the way the story was constructed was to make the character more down to earth. However, by doing such they simply negate such strong start at the beginning of the show, humanizing what supposed to be unique, stand out among the white house leaders. Around episode 5-10 is the weakness of the show but after that it gracefully got back up to the quality it started with to close out the season. What we saw in the middle eps are simply a traditional good television approach but an extraordinary show that we hoped to see in the beginning of the season.(as someone just mentioned above) Again, i think bringing back the comparison between House of Cards and Death Note is pure genius. Death Note has the same flow and story telling, it also has the monologue element in order for the viewer to get in the main character shoes. The biggest different, still, is that Death Note characters have their image enlarged to god-tier while House of Cards decided to curve down. I just hate it when the show i really like have to take such curve to fit the traditional TV show approach in order to fit older viewers. | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
On February 24 2013 06:18 NB wrote: Definitely, the way the story was constructed was to make the character more down to earth. However, by doing such they simply negate such strong start at the beginning of the show, humanizing what supposed to be unique, stand out among the white house leaders. Around episode 5-10 is the weakness of the show but after that it gracefully got back up to the quality it started with to close out the season. What we saw in the middle eps are simply a traditional good television approach but an extraordinary show that we hoped to see in the beginning of the season.(as someone just mentioned above) Again, i think bringing back the comparison between House of Cards and Death Note is pure genius. Death Note has the same flow and story telling, it also has the monologue element in order for the viewer to get in the main character shoes. The biggest different, still, is that Death Note characters have their image enlarged to god-tier while House of Cards decided to curve down. I just hate it when the show i really like have to take such curve to fit the traditional TV show approach in order to fit older viewers. I understand that taking the chance to try to humanize such a ruthless character may be unwanted if you are just interested in the plot and how cunning he is. The ruthless behavior he exhibits reminded me of Kira, but yeah, when they take a few episodes to show how he is, I think it brought more depth to the character rather than water it down, or dumb it down for audiences. I think it's to get the viewer to see how the character sleeps with himself at night. The episode where he goes back to college (lol phrasing) was one of those cases, you get to see more than just the plot. Death Note really never had much of that because Kira was so hellbent and totally revolved his life around his mission and behaved in a much more sociopathic way where he disregarded all possible emotional connections with anyone. Whereas Frank on the other hand, has a bond with Claire and he really does love her in his own way. Likewise with Claire, you get to see that she chooses to disregard the humanized side of herself because her real love is 'the game' and playing it with Frank. I mean, I'm not trying to convince you otherwise, though it might seem like it. I think I shouldn't respond like this anymore 'cause its a matter of perspective and it might come off as argumentative. If I may ask, would you please elaborate on your perspective a bit more? I think it would be beneficial in order to continue a discussion instead of going in circles. Thanks! Small tangent unrelated to HoC -- about Netflix: + Show Spoiler + I think that it's awesome that this show came out so great, apparently Spacey and Finchers names were 'searched for' a lot by viewers so that's why they were used. Moreover, this show gives me so much high hopes for the Arrested Development episodes that are supposed to show on Netflix. At first, I was kinda surprised and un-reluctant to believe that they'd have a really good run, but I'm pretty hyped now. | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
It made me want to watch the show again! | ||
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Zax19
Czech Republic1136 Posts
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On August 27 2013 03:41 Zax19 wrote: Kevin Spacey gave a really good opening speech related to House of Cards, Netflix, new media an emerging talent .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oheDqofa5NM Here's a cut version of it, with better audio. http://www.wimp.com/givecontrol/ | ||
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Sanctimonius
United Kingdom861 Posts
Just watched the radio spot Russo does, where he's drunk after spending the night with Rachel. Spacey is destroying the man for a threat, nothing more. A real demonstration of making and breaking his own creation. Love it. And the monologues. 'I really despise children. There. I've said it.' | ||
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Spitmode
Germany1510 Posts
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Katzenaal
Germany194 Posts
On September 19 2013 16:59 Spitmode wrote: does anyone know when season 2 airs? i guess first quater 2014 but nothing official that i know of | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
The part where the brick is thrown through the window by his own man and claire and him are talking in the car about how "he didn't mean to bring her into this" and she goes along with it after the debate... then later they reveal that they were both in on it the whole time when they are talking with cigarettes....lol wut? talk about a gaping plot hole. If they minimized mistakes like this it could have gone from an above average series to an amazing one, but 8.5 on IMDB would sound about right to me. | ||
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