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Just finished watching S2.
+ Show Spoiler +Feel really bad for Walker. Though he was weak mentally, I really enjoyed his character.
Fuck the writers for fucking Freddy over. What the fuck was the random Meachem 3some with Frank and Claire? Quite possibly the most unnecessary scene ever.
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Like everyone else, I also really enjoyed the Petrov scenes.
Only thing that got me, "wtf!" was when he revealed that he and his ambassador manipulated Claire.
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On March 12 2015 05:55 Emnjay808 wrote: Like everyone else, I also really enjoyed the Petrov scenes.
Only thing that got me, "wtf!" was when he revealed that he and his ambassador manipulated Claire. I honestly saw that coming. Never trust the Russians. They're always scheming, always looking to take advantage of you. They're all KGB members that are trained to be cunning and ruthless. Petrov and Alexi alike.
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On March 12 2015 05:55 Emnjay808 wrote: Never trust the Russians. They're always scheming, always looking to take advantage of you.
Sounds kinda like Frank Underwood :
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Bisutopia19195 Posts
Season 3 spoiler discussion.
+ Show Spoiler +I thought season 3 was terrible overall. Petrov was brilliant, but the rest was lackluster. I thought the last episode of season 2 should have ended the show and call it a miniseries. Doug stamper wasn't at Underwoods side which was hugely disappointing. The separation of Frank and Claire is a huge mistake as they were a power couple. Also amworks just died instantly and there wasn't enough scheming to get it in the house. Honestly, everything in season 3 from Frank seemed like a documentary of a real president instead of some one brilliantly ruthless. He didn't manipulate anyone effectively and that disappoint s me.
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Finished S3. Man the last episodes were so fucking disappointing.
+ Show Spoiler +Everyone has either gone full R or completely forgot what their character was all about. Jackie Sharpe suddenly has a change of heart, drops out of the race and supports Dunbar, after being a cruel pragmatist in S2. (I know Frank fucked her over in the debate, but I felt unsatisfied with how she barely seemed to care afterwards). We have Doug who's super fucking obsessed with a girl he's treated like absolute shit, who obviously doesn't want anything more than to be left alone. So he almost does the right thing, then decides to be an asshole and run her over.
Though I agree that Frank wasn't as clever and shit in this season, half of that was because of how awful Claire was in every single facet of the season. She absolutely blew as an ambassador, as a first lady, as a ruthless pragmatist. Then Frank puts her in the place she deserves to be with his last episode tirade on the hypocrisy of her bullshit dilemmas. It's like Frank couldn't even fathom the dumb ass writing decisions they gave Claire. I never liked her much-- she always seemed fake (both on the campaign trail and in person), where as Kevin Spacey plays a very likable and folksy politician-- even if he's a grade A asshole behind the scenes.
Thank god for Frank vs. Petrov, because by the end of the season even I didn't want AmericaWorks to work. Good job to Remy Danton for getting out of the limelight while the rest of the show devolved into a relationship drama with an unrealistic ending.
Sigh. This season started out decently and just got less and less unique and more like a stock soap opera drama.
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I <3 S3, everyone. I think it is the best.
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+ Show Spoiler +Claire becomes a lot more likable if you consider her perspective from a changing America. She grew up in a time of patriarchy so thirty years ago when she was scheming, her only out was a strong man who would do anything. She rides the Frank train for awhile, but the feminist movement is in full swing. She can have a political future and wants to realize her full potential. She will have no legacy because anything her and Frank accomplish will only be attributed to Frank. She definitely bit off more than she could handle this season, but I think people calling her Skylar is just ridiculous. She isn't supposed to be liked, but I think you can feel sorry for her situation a bit more if you think about the climate she grew up in and how America has changed in the past thirty years. She is having a crisis of conscience about what she has accomplished in her life and it is causing her to make different decisions.
I agree that the writing wasn't as good as the previous seasons, but I can live with the direction the show is going. Claire kills Frank and becomes president in season 4 might be an interesting storyline as well.
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On March 19 2015 06:28 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Claire becomes a lot more likable if you consider her perspective from a changing America. She grew up in a time of patriarchy so thirty years ago when she was scheming, her only out was a strong man who would do anything. She rides the Frank train for awhile, but the feminist movement is in full swing. She can have a political future and wants to realize her full potential. She will have no legacy because anything her and Frank accomplish will only be attributed to Frank. She definitely bit off more than she could handle this season, but I think people calling her Skylar is just ridiculous. She isn't supposed to be liked, but I think you can feel sorry for her situation a bit more if you think about the climate she grew up in and how America has changed in the past thirty years. She is having a crisis of conscience about what she has accomplished in her life and it is causing her to make different decisions.
I agree that the writing wasn't as good as the previous seasons, but I can live with the direction the show is going. Claire kills Frank and becomes president in season 4 might be an interesting storyline as well.
+ Show Spoiler +She might have a political future if she were actually good at anything. I mean seriously, the only time she displayed any sort of cleverness was with the watershed bill in S1. They didn't even really show HOW she got that general assembly bill passed in S3; only the "yea Israel we just gave Zimbabwe $50mill more than you haha!!!" which showed no behind the scenes action. Her "shame on you Petrov" speech and her inability to be anything close to a memorable UN ambassador makes me seriously doubt she would have any lasting political role in S4, unless they just say fuck the plot line. Just think about how badly Frank has hit Dunbar for being under qualified-- it's not like Claire has had experience being a solicitor general let alone a politician.
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I admit, I have never watched any series. Yesterday I started to watch one, this here. I am quite surprised that so many "cinema persons" are doing series (too). Yes I have heard from friends about gossip girl, game of throws etc but I never watched a single episode.
I have watched the first two episodes from season 1 and I really like this serie. Netflix doesnt offer Game of throws, so I think I have to borrow it from a local shop (0,50€ per day) after I am done with House of Cards.
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They are a ruthless and merciless power couple who will happily carry out grossly immoral and illegal things in order to further their own agenda. This does make for some compelling watching, I really enjoyed season 1 and 2 but I have to agree something was missing from this one.
+ Show Spoiler + In season 1 Claire was running a charity, she fired all of her staff, hired a women, promising to let her run things. When she didnt obey, Claire then threatened to forcibly abort her unborn child and sterilise her so she could never become pregnant again. This season she seems to have feelings and actually care about other people, she is lady macbeth that has grown a conscience. After hungering after power whatever the cost, she fails when given responsibility and then decides she doesnt want it. Of course there is the question of what happens next, if she doesnt want to be 'in the shadow' of Frank is she going to run for president herself? is that even possible? If Frank is elected president does Claire become his most vocal critic and nemesis? It feels like this whole season was just building up for the next one though I am still interested to see where they take it.
Extra spoilers, the netflix version is different but if you have any intention of watching the original british version or want to avoid hints at where the netflix one might go dont click this. + Show Spoiler + The main character introduces conscription and has military law in effect at one point. Which is where I thought AM works was going. There is no more unemployment, everyone has been conscripted.. There was that line from Kevin spacey saying the only thing stopping him from murdering Petrov was that it would start a world war. The british version never got that far but imagine if the show went there.
Also events from franks past, some that we never saw that happened before the series started, begin to catch up with him. He spirals out of control and his wife along with the bodyguard she is sleeping with have him assasinated. His wife does not have as central a role as the netflix version but I am really interested to keep watching to see where they take it.
I think the real danger is if they just keep the show going and going without a planned ending, it will just become some relationship soap.
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Holy shit man this season is so much better than season 3 so far
I fucking love Doug, he's the most badass guy ever
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I read a review saying that basically the first 4 episodes of Season 4 are basically an apology letter for how bad Season 3 was, and then from episode 5 the show gets good again. I wasn't planning on watching since Season 3 was so bad but I might give it a shot.
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^2 episodes in, exactly like what you said there. so far so good, they are brushing off the bad taste from my mouth of season3 haha
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This might be the best season yet. The actress who plays Claire's mother is extraordinary.
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I realized I shouldnt watch a politicial season within few days, I forgot 90% of the story that happened in s3. I watched s3 last month. I only remember very good that s3 isn't good compared to first two seasons.
edit: Not sure about other countries. Amazon will show s4 before netflix in Germany -.-
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it is much better than s3, for sure, #4 in, i must say that is true. the damage control is real lol.
+ Show Spoiler [#4] +i mean, still a politic related drama, i lol'ed when china came out
+ Show Spoiler [#5] +rofl i loled so hard when seth said, you are fucked up man
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cranked it out in two days, shit got real
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On March 07 2016 22:03 KOFgokuon wrote: cranked it out in two days, shit got real
SAAAAAAME, and now I'm sad I blew my load too early. Hope I don't make the same mistake with S2 of Daredevil.
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