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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
March 01 2015 01:40 GMT
#221
On March 01 2015 09:50 Daray wrote:
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On March 01 2015 08:53 dismiss wrote:
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^Meh, Claire turned into Skylar. :/ The first episode kinda sucked hard, but after thatit picked up so much. I'm really disappointed that the last couple episodes were this weak.


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I don't know why you would say that. Reason why people hated Skylar was because everyone was still seeing Walter as a good guy who just wanted best for his family, but Skylar was having some kind of midlife crisis or her actions seemed a bit irrational. Frank is and has been a manipulative asshole the whole time and turned even more ruthless as time passed and Claire clearly still has some morals and is in the relationship because that's what is supposed of her/them and it's best for the campaign etc.

The reason why i thought Claire might pursue something of her own is because when she visited that woman in her house she said she would vote for her if she was the one running and Claire seemed to have some kind of moment of clarity. Also people liked her more than Frank and she was the one winning the race for him. In the last episode she also opened up and was upset that THEY were doing things that HE would get all credit.

+ Show Spoiler +
But Claire has proven time and time again in previous seasons that she has a very similar outlook on life as Francis. Iirc there even are occasions during which she appears as the more ruthless one of the couple, edging Frank on to continue down their chosen path.

They also state repeatedly that Frank becoming president was one of their goals. It appears to me that she's simply jealous of him because in the end, he wields the power. Which she knew might happen 30 some years ago when they started making plans. It's just the writers fishing for some easily created crisis. :/
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Zax19
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Czech Republic1136 Posts
March 01 2015 12:47 GMT
#222
On March 01 2015 10:40 dismiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 09:50 Daray wrote:
On March 01 2015 08:53 dismiss wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
^Meh, Claire turned into Skylar. :/ The first episode kinda sucked hard, but after thatit picked up so much. I'm really disappointed that the last couple episodes were this weak.


+ Show Spoiler +
I don't know why you would say that. Reason why people hated Skylar was because everyone was still seeing Walter as a good guy who just wanted best for his family, but Skylar was having some kind of midlife crisis or her actions seemed a bit irrational. Frank is and has been a manipulative asshole the whole time and turned even more ruthless as time passed and Claire clearly still has some morals and is in the relationship because that's what is supposed of her/them and it's best for the campaign etc.

The reason why i thought Claire might pursue something of her own is because when she visited that woman in her house she said she would vote for her if she was the one running and Claire seemed to have some kind of moment of clarity. Also people liked her more than Frank and she was the one winning the race for him. In the last episode she also opened up and was upset that THEY were doing things that HE would get all credit.

+ Show Spoiler +
But Claire has proven time and time again in previous seasons that she has a very similar outlook on life as Francis. Iirc there even are occasions during which she appears as the more ruthless one of the couple, edging Frank on to continue down their chosen path.

They also state repeatedly that Frank becoming president was one of their goals. It appears to me that she's simply jealous of him because in the end, he wields the power. Which she knew might happen 30 some years ago when they started making plans. It's just the writers fishing for some easily created crisis. :/

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Well, they were fighting over who gets to "win" from day one, what I hated is that it took her 13 episodes to say she's leaving and even then we're left with no resolution.
Really Blizz, really? - Darnell
CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-01 13:17:13
March 01 2015 13:14 GMT
#223
prediction

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I think its pretty obvious that claire is going to end up being the vice president as a form of resolution. The show keeps saying that everyone loves her PLUS the spot is conveniently open at the end of the season after the other vice president girl who sleeps with the black guy betrayed francis
You're pretty when I'm drunk.
VaultD
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland85 Posts
March 01 2015 15:11 GMT
#224
On March 01 2015 22:14 CrownRoyal wrote:
prediction

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I think its pretty obvious that claire is going to end up being the vice president as a form of resolution. The show keeps saying that everyone loves her PLUS the spot is conveniently open at the end of the season after the other vice president girl who sleeps with the black guy betrayed francis


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And we could have an ending where Claire *gets rid of* Francis to become POTUS, bringing us a "full circle" and a pretty bad ass conclusion to the show. One can hope, would make for good tv. Personally I agree with people who thought that S3 was weaker than 1/2. Mostly I found the decision to put the Claire/Francis relationship to the forefront to have been a slight mistake, as it didn't feel "right" for me, as far as character behavior goes. Also the whole Doug storyline really should have been wrapped up by mid-season or thereabouts, as it felt dragged out. I also really dig Put.. I mean Petrov, and I hope that he is in their future plans.
“Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.”
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
March 01 2015 22:49 GMT
#225
I don't want to read this thread to avoid spoilers, but can anyone send me the name of the area / state / town Doug Stamper's fling fled to?
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
March 01 2015 23:36 GMT
#226
The above prediction is ridiculous....not going to happen.

I did not like season 3.
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 00:15:55
March 02 2015 00:15 GMT
#227
Okay, done with the season.

I loved the Putin story-line, I'm very curious to see how Underwood deals with + Show Spoiler +
Claire leaving
, but overall, I wasn't too impressed. Some great moments, but I much prefered season 1.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
March 02 2015 06:49 GMT
#228
Hm the season ended on an earlier note than I thought it would.

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Thought it'd go all the way up to him getting re-elected, but guess not.
Writer
alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2771 Posts
March 02 2015 07:37 GMT
#229
haha, Putin's surely a badass in this series.

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and holyshit Doug, what the hell... that was brutal. Poor Rachel
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
March 02 2015 08:23 GMT
#230
On March 02 2015 08:36 Complete wrote:
The above prediction is ridiculous....not going to happen.

I did not like season 3.

same
claire is gonna get some hate just like skylar, but prob not as much
© Current year.
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 12:39:56
March 02 2015 12:39 GMT
#231
Well, I was starting to believe Doug was a changed man after not working for Frank for an extended period of time. In the end, his goal was to get back with him all along.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
March 02 2015 13:14 GMT
#232
Frank and Doug have this one thing that is consistent throughout the seasons - + Show Spoiler +
Love
.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2546 Posts
March 03 2015 01:26 GMT
#233
I haven't finished the season yet but this relationship melodrama is pissing me off. I watch house of cards to get away from shitty serial soap operas that all focus on marriage and the inherent problems with it. I watch house of cards to see some dark politics. It seems like the writers have run out of ideas and are adding fluff by creating a "rift" between Frank and Claire. And what the hell is it with Frank and turning into a sniveling child? This guy is a ruthless, Machiavellian motherfucker, not some depressed bag of tears. First they did it to that cool bald senator and now they're doing it to Frank. Even Claire is more emotional now. The pussification of characters in this show is real.
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Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 03:20:38
March 03 2015 03:19 GMT
#234
This question attains to episode 3
+ Show Spoiler +
How do you guys feel about pussy riot? They are a real controversial punk band from Russia. They are known to be feminists and are pro lgbt community. They made an appearance at the dinner where they dump their drinks after the unhearted toast to then from The Russian president his name I cannot recall at the moment. Here is their wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pussy_Riot. Honestly I like that there is real controversial subjects in the show and I hope it continues.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 08:22:34
March 03 2015 08:21 GMT
#235
+ Show Spoiler +
When Claire had a chance to prove herself, she failed mega hard in the UN. I feel like she's being resentful and jealous without much cause. Frank's argument that she knew what she was getting into made sense.


On March 03 2015 12:19 reps)squishy wrote:
This question attains to episode 3
+ Show Spoiler +
How do you guys feel about pussy riot? They are a real controversial punk band from Russia. They are known to be feminists and are pro lgbt community. They made an appearance at the dinner where they dump their drinks after the unhearted toast to then from The Russian president his name I cannot recall at the moment. Here is their wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pussy_Riot. Honestly I like that there is real controversial subjects in the show and I hope it continues.

I really enjoyed the outro, it was a lot of fun.
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coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
March 03 2015 08:28 GMT
#236
On March 03 2015 12:19 reps)squishy wrote:
This question attains to episode 3
+ Show Spoiler +
How do you guys feel about pussy riot? They are a real controversial punk band from Russia. They are known to be feminists and are pro lgbt community. They made an appearance at the dinner where they dump their drinks after the unhearted toast to then from The Russian president his name I cannot recall at the moment. Here is their wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pussy_Riot. Honestly I like that there is real controversial subjects in the show and I hope it continues.

They were clearly a IRL political wink, but I thought they came across as incredibly immature and embarrassing in the context of the series. Which I suppose is reflected that they were a big diplomatic flub that made a lot of trouble and accomplished nothing.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2546 Posts
March 03 2015 19:19 GMT
#237
Regarding Ep 8
+ Show Spoiler +
It was cool and everything but this is the second time the show gives us blue balls this massive. First watershed and now amworks. Let's hope Frank's campaign doesn't end in suicide. I would much rather had him not sign the bill and dealt with the fallout of a natural disaster of this scale. I want the writers to take the gloves off. Hurricane deaths, war with russia, political assassinations. I am enjoying the show as it is now but I feel like it can be so much more if there was some more chaos thrown into the mix.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 03 2015 20:33 GMT
#238
I am almost at the end of S1.

+ Show Spoiler +
I can't believe what happened with Russo. I understand "tying up loose ends" but man was that a cruel thing to do. I feel terrible for Christina and his children. God the last few episodes have been so heavy. Underwood struck me as a likeable Machiavellian before, but the way Russo was treated makes me sick. Ugh I don't know what to feel.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Kronen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States732 Posts
March 03 2015 20:53 GMT
#239
This is an underwhelming season... Still watching it and enjoying it but I'm more than a bit disheartened.

The Cathedral scene (episode 3 or 5 was it) was so much weaker than the original West Wing scene it obviously attempted to copy.... I couldn't help cringing while watching it bumble through the motions.

Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
March 04 2015 18:27 GMT
#240
+ Show Spoiler +
I think that's a fair point. This season seemed to be trying much harder than the others to copy West Wing. Which they failed at because they aren't West Wing. This was shown in a lot of ways, from how policy was handled to the fact that morality and duty entered the picture to the way the press corps participated to, yes, the Cathedral scene. But it was weaker across the board. Francis has no crisis of faith. He doesn't ever really seem to have believed in God, and the show repeatedly hints at/suggests that Francis has a deal (literal or metaphorical) with the devil. (Who else do you think those asides are directed at?) As opposed to the West Wing episode, where he has a crisis of faith before deciding to + Show Spoiler +
believe
.

Honestly, my problem with this season was mostly that it was the negative trends from S2 carried further. Why were there basically any knowing asides to the camera? Why was the entire season about his relationship? Where was the Machiavellian maneuvering?


All that being said, Putin was predictably awesome.
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