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On March 14 2013 09:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
i'm trying to learn how to write good dialogue. anyone got a suggestion? i'm looking at books i like and seeing how those authors create conversation (like the balance they strike between actual talking and description and their use of said/uttered/shouted/etc.). writing manuals or guides would be nice too.
I'd say read Salinger. He's magnificent with dialogue. It's where I learned to use dialogue. Specifically, Nine Stories is incredible.
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I really like the dialogue in don delillo's novel 'end zone'
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On March 14 2013 10:23 Blisse wrote:
Just finished Silver Lining Playbook. Tugging at some heart strings.
Began reading Ender's Game.
Ender's Game is such an excellent book. I think that the way that Card creates the ethical dilemmas and other important constructs in the story is really masterful. If you like that book I would definitely recommend Enders Shadow. Enjoy the read!
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So I haven't had much time lately to do any personal reading, but when I have a few moments I've been having a good laugh through this book:
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It is incredibly funny, probably up there with Hitchhiker's guide. Very different style though :D
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Even though I've been meaning to read Faulkner and Philip K Dick I got sidetracked by suggestions and ended up getting these two books.
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On March 12 2013 02:25 sam!zdat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 02:08 zedi wrote:
Reading Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. The propaganda is almost getting to me, although it's a good book. read this in 8th grade and was a little objectivist for 2 weeks until I realized that was no way for a civilized person to behave. it's not a good book, though, I'm afraid.
isn't ayn rand like the biggest joke among people that actually study/care about philosophy
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Dear God is she a joke. Her ontology is...well I don't know, like Christian science or post-structuralist math I guess? Also, her philosophy is like reading a zombie apocalypse novel. Everyone has a role, whether it is the zombie or survivor, but the philosophy is specifically meant for the survivor.
Also, amongst the hardcore arrogant individualists I have met, the way they seem to act is that if it were not for the Nanny State preventing survival of the fittest, they would be on top and be gods. If only it were gone...
Also, I made it to the halfway point in Being and Time but I am taking a break and reading Tractatus instead. Continental philosophers are open to way too much interpretation sometimes which is usually a good thing, but frustrating. What I like about Tractatus even though it can be a little difficult at some parts, there are much fewer interpretations compared to Hegel or Nietzsche.
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I am very excited for Dan Brown's latest book in the Robert Langdon series, 'Inferno', being release in May.
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On March 14 2013 09:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
i'm trying to learn how to write good dialogue. anyone got a suggestion? i'm looking at books i like and seeing how those authors create conversation (like the balance they strike between actual talking and description and their use of said/uttered/shouted/etc.). writing manuals or guides would be nice too.
You cannot learn how to write by reading, only by writing. This is the best advice you will ever get on writing good dialogue. No, seriously.
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Anyone else really looking forward to May 1st, when The Doors of Stone will supposedly come out?
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On March 14 2013 20:07 Surth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 09:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
i'm trying to learn how to write good dialogue. anyone got a suggestion? i'm looking at books i like and seeing how those authors create conversation (like the balance they strike between actual talking and description and their use of said/uttered/shouted/etc.). writing manuals or guides would be nice too.
You cannot learn how to write by reading, only by writing. This is the best advice you will ever get on writing good dialogue. No, seriously.
While this is most certainly true and i agree that the only way to get good at writing dialogue is by writing you can't discount the fact that all great writers are great readers. You can never hope to write well if you have not read a great deal of fiction.
On March 14 2013 20:10 kafkaesque wrote:
Anyone else really looking forward to May 1st, when The Doors of Stone will supposedly come out?
TROLLOLLOLLOLOLOLOOLLOLOLOLO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Seriously don't come here with that nonsense.
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On March 14 2013 18:06 Shiragaku wrote:
Dear God is she a joke. Her ontology is...well I don't know, like Christian science or post-structuralist math I guess? Also, her philosophy is like reading a zombie apocalypse novel. Everyone has a role, whether it is the zombie or survivor, but the philosophy is specifically meant for the survivor.
Also, amongst the hardcore arrogant individualists I have met, the way they seem to act is that if it were not for the Nanny State preventing survival of the fittest, they would be on top and be gods. If only it were gone...
Also, I made it to the halfway point in Being and Time but I am taking a break and reading Tractatus instead. Continental philosophers are open to way too much interpretation sometimes which is usually a good thing, but frustrating. What I like about Tractatus even though it can be a little difficult at some parts, there are much fewer interpretations compared to Hegel or Nietzsche.
by post-structuralist math you just mean an example of an oxymoron right
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I consider it to be one, but it is actually a real field. Julia Kristeva is one of the major thinkers in the field.
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On March 14 2013 18:06 Shiragaku wrote:
Dear God is she a joke. Her ontology is...well I don't know, like Christian science or post-structuralist math I guess? Also, her philosophy is like reading a zombie apocalypse novel. Everyone has a role, whether it is the zombie or survivor, but the philosophy is specifically meant for the survivor.
Also, amongst the hardcore arrogant individualists I have met, the way they seem to act is that if it were not for the Nanny State preventing survival of the fittest, they would be on top and be gods. If only it were gone...
Also, I made it to the halfway point in Being and Time but I am taking a break and reading Tractatus instead. Continental philosophers are open to way too much interpretation sometimes which is usually a good thing, but frustrating. What I like about Tractatus even though it can be a little difficult at some parts, there are much fewer interpretations compared to Hegel or Nietzsche.
And then you ask them if they know how to make a fire, boil water or tie a tourniquet, and they rant at you about how how they have a superior mindset. Damn right they do! True story.
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On March 15 2013 02:24 Shiragaku wrote:
I consider it to be one, but it is actually a real field. Julia Kristeva is one of the major thinkers in the field.
god is post modernism infecting every single field of academics now
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Currently reading and thoroughly enjoying:
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Next one will be The Snowman by Jo Nesbo.
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Well, Julia Kristeva isn't really a post-structuralist mathematician, rather a post-structuralist who uses a lot of math (and quite poorly in this readers eyes). Still, let's not utterly deride her through comparison with Rand 
On March 15 2013 02:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 02:24 Shiragaku wrote:
I consider it to be one, but it is actually a real field. Julia Kristeva is one of the major thinkers in the field. god is post modernism infecting every single field of academics now
Everything infects everything!
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On March 15 2013 02:58 farvacola wrote:Well, Julia Kristeva isn't really a post-structuralist mathematician, rather a post-structuralist who uses a lot of math (and quite poorly in this readers eyes). Still, let's not utterly deride her through comparison with Rand Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 02:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On March 15 2013 02:24 Shiragaku wrote:
I consider it to be one, but it is actually a real field. Julia Kristeva is one of the major thinkers in the field. god is post modernism infecting every single field of academics now Everything infects everything!
Except Madagascar.
(Pandemic 2 reference)
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Haha, when John Donne suggested that "No man is an island.", I suppose he meant "No man is Madagascar.".
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