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We made a thread specifically for Episode 8 now, let us head over to that one
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/entertainment/521373-star-wars-episode-viii-the-last-jedi
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 31 2012 22:58 GMT
#521
Didn't everyone like the new Tron?
I see them doing what they did to Tron in terms of GFX.
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DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
October 31 2012 23:04 GMT
#522
Disney doesn't Disney-fy everything, they are out to make as much money off as many intellectual properties as they can. Other than porn and splatter flicks Disney has a finger (or a whole hand) in every genre's and target demographic's pie. They've given their various production companies a pretty free hand and the results have been great when you look at companies like Pixar and movies like The Avengers.

My biggest worry is that this new trilogy will, quality-wise, turn into another Pirates of the Carribean. First movie pretty good, some flaws, second one pretty good but the same flaws are still there and are a little bit worse, third movie the flaws are monster size now and the movie is just bad. And please, keep this trilogy a trilogy. If you want to make more Star Wars movies after that, set them in the Old Republic or 100 years after RotJ or something. The story of the Skywalker family (and Han Solo), does it really need more than 9 films (6 films for Han)? Did it really need more than 3 films... but that's just being snarky.
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lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
October 31 2012 23:17 GMT
#523
Yeah, hasn't it been known for a long time that there were originally nine movies worth of rough storyline? I was actually wondering when we would see 7-9 like three days ago.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
October 31 2012 23:19 GMT
#524
Lucas has said for a long time that he originally envisioned it as 3 trilogies and he had the story of the last 3 worked out, but Disney isn't obligated to use what he thought up. Although I'm sure they'll stick close to the general outline of Lucas' vision.
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Microsloth
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada194 Posts
October 31 2012 23:21 GMT
#525
On November 01 2012 06:49 soullogik wrote:
in this age, disney would be stupid not to buy that cash cow.
you could make the worst movie of all time and still make bank.

not like they have the ability to come up with anything new


Yeah, cleary Disney hasn't come with anything new ever.

Not counting all the classic stuff here's a bit of awesome stuff:

- Princess and the frog
- Tangled
- Up
- Pirates of the Caribbean (only basis for this was a ride..which they created...)

I don't even need to list more. Disney is one of, if not THE most innovative entertainment companies of the 20th century... 2D Cartoons that appear to have foreground and backgrounds? First introduced in Snow White? These were possible due to to a Multiplane camera invented by Walt and his staff....

All the insanely innovative rides and attractions at Disney parks around the world?

Disney is the shit, if you hate something they made, chances are you're not in the target demographic for it... (high school musical)

You just can't successfully diss Disney.
Double digit APM. ftw?
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
October 31 2012 23:32 GMT
#526
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Disney

Control the media, the entertainment, the news, and the products, and you control everything.

Actually, I'm thinking 7-9 will be far more entertaining than Lucas' versions, were they ever finished. I don't know what the story will be though. I mean, I tried reading up on some Star Wars chronology on wikipedia years ago. There's lots of books and authors, reminds me of comic books. There was a wikipedia summation of one book where like Han's son would go on to become a sith or something... along those lines... That would be within the timeline of 7-9... But so would a lot of shit... Mmm, needs to be a good story to get the casual movie-goer interested. Or explosions. Lots of explosions and space breasts
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Fortunate S0n
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland44 Posts
November 01 2012 02:43 GMT
#527
What? New Triology?
Everybody know how sequels usually are..
Hope the world is really going to end!
HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
November 01 2012 02:48 GMT
#528
On November 01 2012 08:21 Microsloth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 06:49 soullogik wrote:
in this age, disney would be stupid not to buy that cash cow.
you could make the worst movie of all time and still make bank.

not like they have the ability to come up with anything new


Yeah, cleary Disney hasn't come with anything new ever.

Not counting all the classic stuff here's a bit of awesome stuff:

- Princess and the frog
- Tangled
- Up
- Pirates of the Caribbean (only basis for this was a ride..which they created...)




Not that I disagree with the sentiment that Disney isn't horrible, but Tangled is based off of Rapunzel, is it not?
Zaqwert
Profile Joined June 2008
United States411 Posts
November 01 2012 02:51 GMT
#529
They should remake episodes 1, 2, and 3

Only good this time
Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
November 01 2012 02:53 GMT
#530
THRAWN TRILOGY DISNEY PLEASE

(For the curious : best star wars books ever http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrawn_trilogy
Betelgeuse
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada210 Posts
November 01 2012 03:04 GMT
#531
On November 01 2012 11:53 Teton wrote:
THRAWN TRILOGY DISNEY PLEASE

(For the curious : best star wars books ever http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrawn_trilogy

This for sure -- though some sources are saying that they are planning a brand new trilogy based of Lucas' original script. In Dale Pollocks biography of Lucas he claims to have read the scripts for a 12 part saga that would seem to be a logical fit for Disney to continue with.
Reference.
+ Show Spoiler +
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2012/10/31/star-wars-episode-vii-will-be-an-original-story?abthid=5091854160b1d4a47800009e


(if any Star Wars fans havent read any of the Thrawn novels you're missing out!)
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 03:40:40
November 01 2012 03:31 GMT
#532
Just make bioware do this for a movie.




Btw this can be good reason 1-3 sucked is George Lucas directed it and he's not much of a director or screenwriter, he's an idea person good with the broad strokes. It's why V and VI are the best not directed by Lucas and not mainly screen-written by Lucas.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
November 01 2012 04:37 GMT
#533
i cant beleive this is actually happening... i need someone to hug me and tell me its all going to be alright
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
November 01 2012 04:43 GMT
#534
I am super stoked for these. Gonna be amazing!! :D
TheMasterRace
Profile Joined November 2012
16 Posts
November 01 2012 07:09 GMT
#535
--- Nuked ---
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
November 01 2012 07:31 GMT
#536
On November 01 2012 12:31 semantics wrote:
Just make bioware do this for a movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyYbvVAtlWk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0RuR3FREFw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6IAoPAjzpw

Btw this can be good reason 1-3 sucked is George Lucas directed it and he's not much of a director or screenwriter, he's an idea person good with the broad strokes. It's why V and VI are the best not directed by Lucas and not mainly screen-written by Lucas.


BioWare writing the story is fine since the first two Knights of the Old Republic were great games. Those three videos were made by Blur Studios. It would be awesome if they ever decide to make a CGI movie, they definitely need to rehire Blur Studios.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11509 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 08:05:26
November 01 2012 07:45 GMT
#537
On November 01 2012 08:19 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Lucas has said for a long time that he originally envisioned it as 3 trilogies and he had the story of the last 3 worked out, but Disney isn't obligated to use what he thought up. Although I'm sure they'll stick close to the general outline of Lucas' vision.

Thing is Lucas changes what he says he said. I've seen that trilogy of trilogy quotes brought up before, but it dates pretty far back. For quite some time, he's disowned the statement altogether. I rather imagine he had considered it somewhat at the height of Star Wars/ Empire Strikes Back and had mentioned it once. But perhaps he really had only a vague notion of what went on after Return.

On November 01 2012 01:36 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 01:04 Arceus wrote:
man it's not about canon. I dont know what to say if a StarWars movie doesnt have R2D2, CP3O, Yoda etc in it. It's not the same SW without those iconic characters


The problem with this is that those characters became iconic for reasons beside them just being there in the beginning, they became endearing to us because of the context of the original films which were great movies. Just shoe horning them in like in the prequels does a dis-service to their character.


I very much agree with this. You can see this very problem in many of the later EU books pre-Yuzhan Vong. Every author felt obligated to add a C3P0-R2D2 plot-line and a Lando plot-line. Zahn could deal with them, but other books were atrocious. Lando storyline in Black Fleet Crisis anyone? Now to be fair, if Lando exploring an alien ship was its own book it perhaps could've worked. But the fact that the story never interesected once with anything else made it a big waste of time.

It just clutters the story too much to have characters for the sake of having all the alumni together. That's one of the reasons the X-Wing series and the Shadow of the Empire is so refreshing.

You see the same problem in Pirates 2 and 3. Pintel and Ragetti and the 2 stupid British guards who were funny in the first, but had nothing to do in the 2nd and were just taking up space in the 3rd. The cast get's way too cluttered and you don't have time for new characters. They also add nothing to the story as they're doing the same schtick as before, only we've already seen it. (And Geoffrey Rush got stuck with the lamest crew by the end of the 3rd compared to his bad-ass crew from the first.)

One of the reasons I felt the 4th Pirates was at least a strong attempt to make the series at least somewhat fresh was because they got rid of the fat. Stripping away all the extra characters (including the romantic leads who's story arc was actually finished by the end of the first) left more time for other characters- unfortunately Jack isn't perhaps the best character to base a story around, but that's something else entirely.

So if they do jump into the future and skip the Thrawn Trilogy, it would be best to have a handful of alumni characters for continuity/ the passing of the torch, but not have the ENTIRE old cast show up. (Part of the problem with the prequels is the entire universe started feeling really small because everyone had met in a previous life/ generation. (I would've been happy if C3P0 and R2 were introduced in Revenge.)


edit.
For Pixar connections- what about Brad Bird? He hasn't done sci-fi yet, but in my opinion he is a very strong story-teller.
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
November 01 2012 07:57 GMT
#538
Oh man if they make a Thrawn trilogy, I don't care one bit who makes it.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
November 01 2012 08:18 GMT
#539
Oh Really, Disney?
I hope it makes a movie that looks nothing like something Disney produced!
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MiCroLiFe
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway275 Posts
November 01 2012 08:35 GMT
#540
is this true? clone darth vader? awesome! http://supershadow.com/starwars/episode7/plot.html
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