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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50632 Posts
May 17 2014 02:17 GMT
#61
man the movie was only good in the last half hour when+ Show Spoiler +
GOJIRA vs M/F MUTOS started fighting for real, dat atomic breath attack, dat tail whip, Gojira 2 stronk, fuck you and your babies
at which point I felt like a little kid.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
May 17 2014 03:08 GMT
#62
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It was an alright movie just suffered from some pacing issues, a few weak characters, and not enough Godzilla. Would like a sequel with just more kaijus fighting. Give it a 7.5/10. Watch it in theaters if you really want but if you got a friend or your own home theater with a large TV and sound system just watch it there.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 03:24:34
May 17 2014 03:23 GMT
#63
I was satisfied overall. It was no Pacific Rim, but it was miles better than '98.

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My biggest grip is how, up until the end, whenever the monsters would start fighting, it would just cut out and leave that stuff in the background, or not at all. I mean I wasn't expecting Godzilla: Final Wars or anything, and I guess CG is expensive, but still, I'd like to have seen then actually fight each other before the end.

That said, the ending fight was great. That atomic breath, and then the last atomic breath where it grabs a MUTO, forces open its mouth, and fires that shit down its throat was great. The whole final part was really good.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 17 2014 07:18 GMT
#64
Christ, that was a stupid movie. I have a really, really good suspension of disbelief when it comes to watching movies (I liked Oblivion), but this was just too much. It was just wrong seeing + Show Spoiler +
Godzilla swim in tight formation with the US Navy
.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 17 2014 07:32 GMT
#65
On May 17 2014 16:18 xDaunt wrote:
Christ, that was a stupid movie. I have a really, really good suspension of disbelief when it comes to watching movies (I liked Oblivion), but this was just too much. It was just wrong seeing + Show Spoiler +
Godzilla swim in tight formation with the US Navy
.

iirc godzilla has always been indifferent to humans. :/
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 08:22:08
May 17 2014 08:14 GMT
#66
The movie wasn't bad (7/10 is fair), and had a lot of good parts, but overall I was really disappointed, despite really trying hard to like this movie.

Overall, the only scenes that rose above mediocre were the scenes with Godzilla or Bryan Cranston. The problem? + Show Spoiler +
They were both barely in the fucking movie. Is it a coincidence that in all the trailers for this movie they spent the vast majority of the time focusing on these two? That's because they are by far the best part of the movie. Why the hell would you kill off the only person in the movie who can seem to act AND keep moving shots off the monsters fighting?! It's like Cloverfield all over again, though it makes less sense here.


On the other hand, the Asian doctor almost single handedly ruined this movie for me, and was by FAR the worst part of it. It was like I was watching and old campy scientists from the old Godzilla movies, which doesn't fit at all in this serious/modern retelling of the story. Movie would have been exponentially better if he wasn't in it and the movie focused more on Cranston.

Other than that there are a lot of stupid plot issues that are obvious enough to anyone who watches it.


On May 17 2014 16:32 wei2coolman wrote:
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On May 17 2014 16:18 xDaunt wrote:
Christ, that was a stupid movie. I have a really, really good suspension of disbelief when it comes to watching movies (I liked Oblivion), but this was just too much. It was just wrong seeing + Show Spoiler +
Godzilla swim in tight formation with the US Navy
.

iirc godzilla has always been indifferent to humans. :/


Humans don't know that. In no reality would anybody ever put the fleet that close to him. Especially a fucking aircraft carrier.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12683 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 09:59:02
May 17 2014 09:54 GMT
#67
realism is fine to ignore since original japanese godzilla was very cheesy anyway.

But the biggest problems were:
Lead Actor - he felt nothing like a soldier. he felt weak, he looked weak and he is weak (other than surviving all the disasters). that's why he was good in Kick ass.
Actress - not bad actually, it's only the beginning scenes with her that's a bit poor. You can clearly see she was faking the laugh and totally no chemistry between her and the lead actor.
Doctor/Scentist (japanese) - basically he copy and paste that "huh" face throughout the whole movie.

The screentime for monsters vs monsters were way too short

Weak directing, far too many locations hopping for some fairly unnecessary reasons

Plus side of things:
Godzilaaaaaaaaa!
The MUTO was cooler than expected, I also like how the movie gave more realism to the monster instead of just a giant destruction creature.
Cranston is so very good at acting.
Some beautiful scenes and some pretty good tense moments.

I give it a 6.5 personally, but with a bit bias since I am a godzilla fan, 7/10.
It's still disappointing though, was hoping a lot more.

Some scenes were beautifully shot, especially that halo dive, one of the most beautiful scenes in movie history for recent years.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 16:02:04
May 17 2014 10:20 GMT
#68
I didn't think Aaron Taylor Johnson was THAT bad as some of you stated. The movie was trying to do alot within 2 hours and 3 minutes with the characters travelling to many different locations, deciding whether to nuke the monsters or let them fight, dealing with the military and Japanese scientist/Monarch, married couple, conspiracy, etc. Some scenes could have been either cut out or shortened. I was fine with some of the teases we got at first, but after a while it got pretty annoying as if Gareth Edwards and the writer just wanted to fuck with us. The payoff was great, but it wasn't as fulfilling as I would have liked.
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
May 17 2014 10:34 GMT
#69
'zilla devoured my expectations...
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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
May 18 2014 04:39 GMT
#70
Was not nearly as good as Pacific Rim and had too little monster action.

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Man the human plot was entirely useless other than baiting everything to a hotspot. Also sucked that BC died so early he was carrying hard.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-18 07:11:58
May 18 2014 07:03 GMT
#71
i spoil basically everything so this warning and in spoilers

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the movie repeatedly set you up to expect things to happen and then they did not happen. i'm not just talking about skipping out on godzilla fighting male muto at the airport and female muto tearing up vegas. i mean things like serizawa tells the admiral that he wants breaking bad and ford nobody on his team. bryan cranston dies like five minutes later. there never is a team. serizawa does nothing the entire movie. the main characters should have been cranston and watanabe with cranston helping watanabe discover muto 2 the same as what happened in the film. and seriously go ahead the same thing as in the original, serizawa has a super weapon but has a dilemma about using it. maybe a nanomachine swarm or hell why not the OXYGEN DESTROYER. just go there. ford nobody's wife never feels like she's in any danger. his son never feels like he's in any danger despite being on the golden gate bridge while godzilla is a hundred feet away. BREAKING BAD DIES BEFORE THE END OF THE FIRST HOUR. this makes zero sense. walt does not die. he is basically indestructible. everyone knows this. have ford nobody die so he loses his wife and his son to monsters. have him push serizawa to use the superweapon to kill em all. give the humans some actual fucking conflict. the military guys sleepwalk through their scenes. hey giant monsters are tearing up apple pie and baseball, you'd think american soldiers would show some goddamn emotion.

i thought there was gonna be some crazy military attack on godzilla, guess what gareth edwards the way to show human weapons are ineffective is to show them looking awesome and doing jack. not show explosions over the other side of a mountain or 3 minutes of random explosions around godzilla while a black guy drives a bus on the golden gate bridge. and then godzilla just walks through the golden gate bridge anyway. muto EMP = dumb as fuck. oh our electronics don't work so we can't even spend some SFX money on a badass army vs godzilla fight. 160 million dollars and we can't see godzilla vs GI joe for 10 minutes. if the military's ineffectiveness is not effectively shown, who gives a shit when serizawa says let them fight. if he says that because he doesn't want to use his superweapon and the only alternative is hoping they kill each other, that's cool. it's lame in the movie because serizawa who gives a fuck? he headed some secret international research team that apparently learned fuck-all about giant monsters in 15 years because what useful advice does he ever provide really? bryan cranston with his windows 98 and nuclear engineering degree and paranoid crazy drive schooled dr. serizawa with his millions of dollars and dozens of scientists. pretty much everything cranston knew in 2014 he already knew in 1999 and had on the discs they got from the "quarantine zone." and that is just no. you do not do that to a character named serizawa in a movie named godzilla.

it's really unfortunate that so much stuff like that was in the movie because the first 45 minutes are pretty good. the intro credits with the newspaper clippings and photos and the accompanying music is really good. muto 1 wakes up and then any time godzilla is not on the screen it goes to pieces. godzilla's reveal is truly awesome, so is the first time he uses his atomic ray and how he kills muto 2. grabs her by the throat, pours some blue deathray down her gullet and tears her head off. that = greatness. made me think of mortal kombat which only made it greater. but godzilla kills muto 1 by slamming it into a skyscraper with his tail? breaking muto 1's back, i guess? muto 1 should have had an awesome death too. the CG is really excellent, the mutos look awesome. godzilla's snout should've been a little bit wider but the cinematography is so good that godzilla looks fast and agile and moves fluidly even though he's really very bulky.

end of the movie, godzilla wakes up and heads out to sea. damn they should've had a 15 minute post credits scene with the military going all out on him and he ruins their shit and heads for monster island or whatever. would've redeemed this film.


anyway seems like it's gonna be a huge hit possibly beating out captain america 2 and amazing spider-man 2's weekend numbers (98 million godzilla (projected), 95 million cap 2, 91.8 million spider-man 2) so a sequel is definitely coming. hopefully they wait a few years and have edwards get 2-3 more films under his belt, or they hire a director who isn't raw as hell.

One guy said it was like a Heisei Godzilla film with the weight of the original, and also said it reminded him of Godzilla vs Biollante. Which maximizes the hype I have for this movie, seeing as vs Biollante is my favorite Godzilla movie.


i wish it reminded me of godzilla vs. biollante, that's my favorite godzilla movie too (best godzilla design ever) and if this movie was as good as godzilla vs. biollante it would be way better than it is

2 minutes after i left the theater i wouldve given it a 5/10 but now i'm at a 7 because it really is good, when godzilla is on the screen
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-18 08:47:10
May 18 2014 08:46 GMT
#72
Hopefully, when/if they do make a sequel, since they have already done the big Godzilla reveal in this film, there will be less annoying cut aways in a sequel. I'm not really sure if the cut aways were because the CG would be too expensive, or if it was a stylistic choice. But something tells me that it was stylistic, because there was tons of monster screentime for this movie... Just, not the right monster. The MUTOs got a lot more focus in this film, with Godzilla himself being the "reveal" everyone waited for. So now that all that is out of the way, hopefully we will get lots more of Godzilla in the next film.
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LilClinkin
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Australia667 Posts
May 18 2014 10:55 GMT
#73
Just saw this. Spoiler-free comments below, I promise.

I give it 1.5/10. It is completely awful. The only redeeming quality of this film is approximately 30 seconds of combined footage towards the end, when Godzilla does some cool stuff (people who've seen it will know what I mean).

Boring characters, stupid plot, stupid sub-plots, far too many convenient coincidences, blah blah blah I could go on and on...

Such a shit movie.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-18 12:13:50
May 18 2014 12:12 GMT
#74
What is with the hate ?

I personally really enjoyed it. Best movie I have seen this year yet.
And definitely better that Pacific Rim.

It did have some problems, like in Nevada when they check the nuclear stockpile and somehow missed the big monster leaving and yes, it started out slow.
But I liked how it wasn't one big Godzilla fight, would have been boring I think. I liked how we got teased with Godzilla for a long time.

And that scene on the bridge in the forest! Was godly

If I have to continued the trend of giving it a score, I would give it 7/10 (which is good in my book)
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-18 13:14:23
May 18 2014 13:13 GMT
#75
My biggest issue with the movie was that they fucking killed Bryan Cranston - an actor probably better than the rest of the cast combined - not even half way into the movie. I came in knowing what I could expect from a movie like Godzilla (and it far surpassed the '98 version) so I can't exactly feel betrayed by the fact that the movie was all about MUTOs trashing buildings, but I feel like beyond the massive fight scene(s) it suffered a few issues that could have been solved but weren't.

Edit: the scene in the nuclear stockpile where they don't discover a MASSIVE FUCKING HOLE IN THE MOUNTAIN AND A MONSTER WALKING OFF could have ruined the entire movie with its stupidity, but it was too hilarious.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17667 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-18 13:51:04
May 18 2014 13:49 GMT
#76
I liked the first 20-30min of the movie. After that it was all pretty much crap (after they showed the first MUTO). MUTOs design was bad, characters were bad (as was most acting), the pacing was horrible and so on.

What irked me the most was how dumb the "family issues" theme was developed. Guy comes back from a 14mo tour to finally be with his family, he gets a call about his father getting arrested in Tokyo and he jumps the first plane to Japan - super believable. Every single time they show his son it's like 10 seconds of him not doing anything and probably just serving as a reminder to the audience about the "increased risk factor" or whatever - utterly pointless and ruining the pace. They should either opt to make this "son misses his father and father wants to be a better one than his own" thingie into a major part of the plot or drop it alltogether, which would make for a more consistent and better experience instead of this half-assed attempt at creating completely unrealistic family matter.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-18 14:31:34
May 18 2014 14:26 GMT
#77
On May 18 2014 21:12 Ramong wrote:
What is with the hate ?

I personally really enjoyed it. Best movie I have seen this year yet.
And definitely better that Pacific Rim.

It did have some problems, like in Nevada when they check the nuclear stockpile and somehow missed the big monster leaving and yes, it started out slow.
But I liked how it wasn't one big Godzilla fight, would have been boring I think. I liked how we got teased with Godzilla for a long time.

And that scene on the bridge in the forest! Was godly

If I have to continued the trend of giving it a score, I would give it 7/10 (which is good in my book)

There's a divide between people who expected monster fighting porn like Pacific Rim/Transformers, and people who expected a Godzilla movie (disaster movie, told through human element with lots of tension.)

Even for group #2, there's lots of issues with the movie like the weak message, script, Watanabe, characterization of Godzilla as a hero/protector. But it was beautifully directed, with a lot of excellent design and clever scenes. Much moreso than Pacific Rim, imo.

But by making the message/script so weak and portraying Godzilla as a hero, they basically took humanity off the hook (outside of Watanabe's stupid line.) It succeeds tremendously at showing how vulnerable we are, but it falls short in showing how we brought it upon ourselves. We see Vegas and SF get destroyed, but we don't see them made unlivable. What lessons were humans supposed to learn from it? They didn't do a good job with that.

Overall, I still liked it quite a lot. It's a shame the family portions were mediocre, because every other part of the movie worked to situate the viewer as a part of the world. And I don't think Johnson was the problem, I think it was the script/decision making of the character (which obviously the actor doesn't control.) He was certainly better than Charlie Hunnam was, and I'd say not much worse than Chris Evans in Cap1.
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Lokian
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
May 18 2014 15:38 GMT
#78
i don't understand how people can say pacific rim is good... it was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Aside from the CGI, I felt sick inside watching it. They ditched evangelion for this? Fucking hell.

Anyways, this movie was miles better than that turd people call pacific rim. At least godzilla had some proper storytelling to it and some characters like cranston and the monsters were memorable. I'm satisfied with the movie... i mean, it's a monster movie and to get that level of realism was surprising enough to me, even though there were some confusing things it was subtle enough. It paid homage to the original godzilla and that satisfied me. And I'm just a casual moviegoer, not really a full fledge cgi porn supporter and not really interested in overly political movies. I thought this movie had a good balance. too bad mixed reviews are composed mostly of love or hate, haters mostly pacific rim enthusiasts.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 18 2014 15:52 GMT
#79
That's only half true. There's a lot that goes behind the scenes and you have to consider all the different variables when it comes to the cast including director, script supervisor, director of photography, wardrobe, hair and makeup, actors (yes, sometimes the directors give them some control or allow them to improvise), etc. There's a lot of aspects to it so to pin point it on any given thing. I don't know about that. There were some cringe worthy lines and you know what? Sometimes the director and screenwriters don't always have the final say on what goes. The Studio comes up to you and says you're going to do this and this. Well sir, you have no choice sometimes.

At the end of the day a lot of stuff goes on to make a movie.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 18 2014 16:26 GMT
#80
On May 19 2014 00:52 StarStruck wrote:
That's only half true. There's a lot that goes behind the scenes and you have to consider all the different variables when it comes to the cast including director, script supervisor, director of photography, wardrobe, hair and makeup, actors (yes, sometimes the directors give them some control or allow them to improvise), etc. There's a lot of aspects to it so to pin point it on any given thing. I don't know about that. There were some cringe worthy lines and you know what? Sometimes the director and screenwriters don't always have the final say on what goes. The Studio comes up to you and says you're going to do this and this. Well sir, you have no choice sometimes.

At the end of the day a lot of stuff goes on to make a movie.

Legendary has a pretty good track record, compared to every other major studio, of letting the directors and writers execute their vision. If they wanted something heavier, I doubt they would've been turned down.
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