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Foblos
Profile Joined September 2011
United States426 Posts
November 18 2013 04:16 GMT
#3661
On November 18 2013 00:33 Spaylz wrote:
I just thought of something though.

Most people think (with good reason, I think) that Vaatu is going to grow inside Raava (read: inside the Avatar) until the next Harmonic Convergence. However, if the Avatar is killed during the Avatar State, the cycle is broken and the Avatar ceases to exist. Unalaq was basically killed in the Avatar State, so what does it mean?

I think it's likely they will just retcon that if they want to tell the story of Vaatu again, but it's just an interesting fact to consider.


I was under the impression that giant Vatunalock was just the natural progression for whomever won harmonic convergence. He always grew bigger with Ra'ava growing smaller, and after he was gone she was a giant. It seems to me that there will be a new avatar now perpetually like the light avatar, just born dark. Am I missing something?
But at what cost ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
November 18 2013 04:18 GMT
#3662
On November 18 2013 13:16 Foblos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 00:33 Spaylz wrote:
I just thought of something though.

Most people think (with good reason, I think) that Vaatu is going to grow inside Raava (read: inside the Avatar) until the next Harmonic Convergence. However, if the Avatar is killed during the Avatar State, the cycle is broken and the Avatar ceases to exist. Unalaq was basically killed in the Avatar State, so what does it mean?

I think it's likely they will just retcon that if they want to tell the story of Vaatu again, but it's just an interesting fact to consider.


I was under the impression that giant Vatunalock was just the natural progression for whomever won harmonic convergence. He always grew bigger with Ra'ava growing smaller, and after he was gone she was a giant. It seems to me that there will be a new avatar now perpetually like the light avatar, just born dark. Am I missing something?

oh O_O i hope the next book isnt going to be about, like the dark avatar being reborn, and then its cycle will always continue as well and korra will have to find him/her, and it'll end with korra absorbing the dark avatar ;_; ( anyone know what the next book is called?)
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Foblos
Profile Joined September 2011
United States426 Posts
November 18 2013 04:30 GMT
#3663
On November 18 2013 13:18 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 13:16 Foblos wrote:
On November 18 2013 00:33 Spaylz wrote:
I just thought of something though.

Most people think (with good reason, I think) that Vaatu is going to grow inside Raava (read: inside the Avatar) until the next Harmonic Convergence. However, if the Avatar is killed during the Avatar State, the cycle is broken and the Avatar ceases to exist. Unalaq was basically killed in the Avatar State, so what does it mean?

I think it's likely they will just retcon that if they want to tell the story of Vaatu again, but it's just an interesting fact to consider.


I was under the impression that giant Vatunalock was just the natural progression for whomever won harmonic convergence. He always grew bigger with Ra'ava growing smaller, and after he was gone she was a giant. It seems to me that there will be a new avatar now perpetually like the light avatar, just born dark. Am I missing something?

oh O_O i hope the next book isnt going to be about, like the dark avatar being reborn, and then its cycle will always continue as well and korra will have to find him/her, and it'll end with korra absorbing the dark avatar ;_; ( anyone know what the next book is called?)


I think that would probably be a boringish story since it's just an easy way to write in a new enemy, but that was just my impression. The only other thing I would wonder is since Korra defeated him by spirit bending him to a light spirit is that darkness is just gone forever, but that seems to not line up well with the Buddhist/Eastern concepts that the show is based on. I'm not sure. Would like to know what the next book is titled though as well. In any case I find the idea of a progression from age to age really charming and epic, and I have high hopes for it

(P.S. Looking all the more forward to it since several of the people that kept shitting on every episode have said they are done with the show. )
But at what cost ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
November 18 2013 04:33 GMT
#3664
I definitely love the TLA references, like zhao just muttering away lol XD and there were a few others but i cant remember them atm, i hope they continue these cause they're really nice
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
November 18 2013 04:36 GMT
#3665
To be honest, I have a feeling Legend of Korra will end the Avatar series, and that by the end of the show, there will be no more Avatar. It's already been established that Korra lost her connection to her previous lives, and when she told Tenzin that, they both agreed it meant the cycle was over. No one said anything afterwards to say it had been restored.

I think Korra is going to be the last Avatar, and after her there will be no more of it. Her letting the portals open is already the first step down from the role of the Avatar : being the bridge between the two worlds. Her only self-given mission now is to keep the peace. She openly said "humans and spirits will have to learn to live together, I will no longer fill that role". Over time, she will do the same with peace.
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-18 04:40:53
November 18 2013 04:38 GMT
#3666
Well besides things that can be speculated from the book 2 finale the writers have said book 3 will focus on Lin's family.
+ Show Spoiler +


Book 3 and even Book 4 are being worked on so there shouldn't be a long wait between seasons. Studio Mir is working on the next book too and have already done the rough animation for a number of book 3 episodes.
http://bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/67191862329/mike-and-i-had-a-nice-dinner-with-three-of-our

Some speculation based on Grey DeLisle interviews, Azula's voice actor, make me believe she will voice a younger version of Lin which would make sense given the tease by the writers. In one interview she said she would voice a younger version of an existing LoK character and in another she said she would voice a "bad girl" bender. All that points to Lin. She also voiced the mushroom and the spider-scorpion in book 2.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
November 18 2013 04:45 GMT
#3667
On November 18 2013 13:36 Spaylz wrote:
To be honest, I have a feeling Legend of Korra will end the Avatar series, and that by the end of the show, there will be no more Avatar. It's already been established that Korra lost her connection to her previous lives, and when she told Tenzin that, they both agreed it meant the cycle was over. No one said anything afterwards to say it had been restored.

I think Korra is going to be the last Avatar, and after her there will be no more of it. Her letting the portals open is already the first step down from the role of the Avatar : being the bridge between the two worlds. Her only self-given mission now is to keep the peace. She openly said "humans and spirits will have to learn to live together, I will no longer fill that role". Over time, she will do the same with peace.

i would really hate it, if it went down that road :/ (sure it'll be kinda fullfilling wan's goal of world peace) but i cant imagine that korra will just beat another enemy, make spirits and humans become friends and everything will be alright...
What theres stopping another amon, or naturally darker spirits like ko, and the spider from casuing havoc if theres no avatar.
Plus ;_; would just feel wrong. (also the temple where the statues end...cant it just be well...u know its eventually going to run out of room anyway its no an infintely large room.)
Also the biggest thing annoying me (for me personally) is korras avatar state (ooh that reminds of the big cosmic korra like anng had) but anyway like why is her avatar state soooo bad, each power get progressively stronger right? because u add another avatars power to it, and aang defeated the firelord on comet day, is unalaq more powerful then firelord ozai on comet day O_O thats crazy :O

edi: XD just some fanfiction thought but imagine if they animated like a really hardcore version, where the bending is extremely violent, something like ice spears piercing through flesh, wind blades that actually cut you, fire that really burns. (the only one ive seen thats kinda like it is lighting which its pretty much a kill)
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 18 2013 04:59 GMT
#3668
On November 18 2013 13:30 Foblos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 13:18 Shock710 wrote:
On November 18 2013 13:16 Foblos wrote:
On November 18 2013 00:33 Spaylz wrote:
I just thought of something though.

Most people think (with good reason, I think) that Vaatu is going to grow inside Raava (read: inside the Avatar) until the next Harmonic Convergence. However, if the Avatar is killed during the Avatar State, the cycle is broken and the Avatar ceases to exist. Unalaq was basically killed in the Avatar State, so what does it mean?

I think it's likely they will just retcon that if they want to tell the story of Vaatu again, but it's just an interesting fact to consider.


I was under the impression that giant Vatunalock was just the natural progression for whomever won harmonic convergence. He always grew bigger with Ra'ava growing smaller, and after he was gone she was a giant. It seems to me that there will be a new avatar now perpetually like the light avatar, just born dark. Am I missing something?

oh O_O i hope the next book isnt going to be about, like the dark avatar being reborn, and then its cycle will always continue as well and korra will have to find him/her, and it'll end with korra absorbing the dark avatar ;_; ( anyone know what the next book is called?)


(P.S. Looking all the more forward to it since several of the people that kept shitting on every episode have said they are done with the show. )

Yeah, that wasn't me, and unless I hear book three is really good I'm out. I talked up about half the episodes because about half of them were decent and a few were incredible. Unfortunately a 50% track record is really not enough.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
November 18 2013 05:16 GMT
#3669
On November 18 2013 13:36 Spaylz wrote:
To be honest, I have a feeling Legend of Korra will end the Avatar series, and that by the end of the show, there will be no more Avatar. It's already been established that Korra lost her connection to her previous lives, and when she told Tenzin that, they both agreed it meant the cycle was over. No one said anything afterwards to say it had been restored.

I think Korra is going to be the last Avatar, and after her there will be no more of it. Her letting the portals open is already the first step down from the role of the Avatar : being the bridge between the two worlds. Her only self-given mission now is to keep the peace. She openly said "humans and spirits will have to learn to live together, I will no longer fill that role". Over time, she will do the same with peace.

i wonder how a show with stories about normal benders with no avatar around would fare
:)
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-18 06:15:57
November 18 2013 06:13 GMT
#3670
A lot of fanservice with Iroh and the Zhao cameo, but overall I'm kind of underwhelmed by LOK. I know they said all the stuff about being yourself, and LOK really needs to take that advice-- it trying way too hard to be like the original TLA. A lot of flashy stuff, some cool characters and ideas, but still too rushed. It took 3 seasons for Aang to save the world, Korra's done it twice in 2/3 the time and it doesn't feel 1/10 as cool.

Also, what's with this Attack on Titan meets Princess Monoroke stuff...

Highlights: Wan was a boss, Korra became somewhat less of a whiny teenager, Iroh

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Janaan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States381 Posts
November 18 2013 09:08 GMT
#3671
On November 18 2013 13:36 Spaylz wrote:
To be honest, I have a feeling Legend of Korra will end the Avatar series, and that by the end of the show, there will be no more Avatar. It's already been established that Korra lost her connection to her previous lives, and when she told Tenzin that, they both agreed it meant the cycle was over. No one said anything afterwards to say it had been restored.

I think Korra is going to be the last Avatar, and after her there will be no more of it. Her letting the portals open is already the first step down from the role of the Avatar : being the bridge between the two worlds. Her only self-given mission now is to keep the peace. She openly said "humans and spirits will have to learn to live together, I will no longer fill that role". Over time, she will do the same with peace.


Except when Korra and Tenzin were saying the cycle was over was before Korra rejoined with Raava. Without her, of course the cycle is over. But now, even though Korra doesn't have memories from previous avatars, it's like she's the new Wan. The cycle will restart with her as the first avatar in the cycle. I think now, the big difference with the portals open is that the Avatar will be needed to mediate between the spirits and humans, or else it will turn back into fighting between the two like before Wan became the avatar.
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
November 18 2013 13:53 GMT
#3672
On November 18 2013 15:13 ticklishmusic wrote:
A lot of fanservice with Iroh and the Zhao cameo, but overall I'm kind of underwhelmed by LOK. I know they said all the stuff about being yourself, and LOK really needs to take that advice-- it trying way too hard to be like the original TLA. A lot of flashy stuff, some cool characters and ideas, but still too rushed. It took 3 seasons for Aang to save the world, Korra's done it twice in 2/3 the time and it doesn't feel 1/10 as cool.

Also, what's with this Attack on Titan meets Princess Monoroke stuff...

Highlights: Wan was a boss, Korra became somewhat less of a whiny teenager, Iroh



Season 1 it wasn't really saving the world or anything. just some small problems in a city. Season 2 was much more important though. at one side I like the self contained stories of the books but I also really liked the long epic journey Aang had.
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MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
November 18 2013 16:57 GMT
#3673
So is Aang's spirit destroyed
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Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
November 18 2013 17:03 GMT
#3674
On November 19 2013 01:57 MattBarry wrote:
So is Aang's spirit destroyed

It seems that Korra's connection to his spirit is.
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Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-18 21:04:46
November 18 2013 21:04 GMT
#3675
On November 16 2013 21:40 Fildun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 21:37 Skilledblob wrote:
raava allready explained in one of the avatar wan episodes what happens with the other spirit. She said when one of them wins the other one will be reborn over time. There can be no light without dark and stuff

so yea they beat vaatu but he'll be back for the next convergence.

Yeah but seeing how fast Rapha was back shouldn't Vatu be back already as well?


I think there's a difference. Thoughts: + Show Spoiler +
Vaatua/Unalaq just beat Raava into nothing. If you noticed, when she "died," she dispersed into little golden particles. When they were about to corrupt/destroy Korra's soul, she was purple, which seems to mean to me that she would have dispersed into purple particles.

When Korra "purified" Unalaq/Vaatu, he dispersed in the same way of all of the other spirits. I think that's a more complete way of "winning" or it's supposed to be intended that way.

I really liked episodes 10-13 but 14 was kind of a let down. They kept coming so close to the epic fights of TLA, but it always devolved into bigger fireballs/water/rocks. No more tidal waves and fire jets and the like

Mako/Korra was silly. Them breaking up seemed so fucking random. I don't really care about teenage drama but I just thought it was really stupid, and I don't really see how it "wouldn't work."

ALSO THERE'S NO F****** WAY that Aang is gone.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
November 18 2013 21:11 GMT
#3676
On November 19 2013 06:04 Alryk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 21:40 Fildun wrote:
On November 16 2013 21:37 Skilledblob wrote:
raava allready explained in one of the avatar wan episodes what happens with the other spirit. She said when one of them wins the other one will be reborn over time. There can be no light without dark and stuff

so yea they beat vaatu but he'll be back for the next convergence.

Yeah but seeing how fast Rapha was back shouldn't Vatu be back already as well?


I think there's a difference. Thoughts: + Show Spoiler +
Vaatua/Unalaq just beat Raava into nothing. If you noticed, when she "died," she dispersed into little golden particles. When they were about to corrupt/destroy Korra's soul, she was purple, which seems to mean to me that she would have dispersed into purple particles.

When Korra "purified" Unalaq/Vaatu, he dispersed in the same way of all of the other spirits. I think that's a more complete way of "winning" or it's supposed to be intended that way.

I really liked episodes 10-13 but 14 was kind of a let down. They kept coming so close to the epic fights of TLA, but it always devolved into bigger fireballs/water/rocks. No more tidal waves and fire jets and the like

Mako/Korra was silly. Them breaking up seemed so fucking random. I don't really care about teenage drama but I just thought it was really stupid, and I don't really see how it "wouldn't work."

ALSO THERE'S NO F****** WAY that Aang is gone.

+ Show Spoiler +
Agreed. I felt that Nick had a prime opportunity to go "Hey kids, relationships aren't perfect but if you're willing to put your ego aside and discuss things you can make it work." Instead I felt they went "Uh...how do we keep this working for 2 more seasons and make it Nick friendly? Time to cut it."
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
November 19 2013 06:13 GMT
#3677


Spirit mushroom was season 2 finale MVP.
Sup.
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-19 07:03:18
November 19 2013 07:02 GMT
#3678
Reminisced and watched some TLA

+ Show Spoiler +





Really makes me sad. None of the episodes so far have come even close to those two videos in eliciting any emotion from me, and those are just two random clips I pulled up.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
November 19 2013 07:31 GMT
#3679
On November 19 2013 16:02 ZeaL. wrote:
Reminisced and watched some TLA

+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSoEZYkEOSc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCXHi0kFucc


Really makes me sad. None of the episodes so far have come even close to those two videos in eliciting any emotion from me, and those are just two random clips I pulled up.

ahhhh man them memories
i hated katara when i watched TLA but damn when you compare her to korra shes a goddess
:)
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
November 19 2013 07:46 GMT
#3680
Why would anyone hate katara wtf are you a monster?
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