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I thought the ending was great, then again I liked TLA's ending as well. This one felt better though, Vatu basically took over the world's energy so all the spirits turned evil just like when Wan had to deal with him. You guys have to remember the energy of ether Rava or Vatu is very powerful and can affect the spirits even more so than human emotions or the avatar, not surprised at all the Spirits were A) Defending the spirit world and B) turned "Evil" because of Vatu's energy. Also what is this I hear about Janora? Why do they need to explain why she's more attuned with the spirit and the spirit world? She just is, do we need an explanation why Korra is so bone headed? no she just is. I didn't think Janorra was going to come back though, I figured she would idk be used as some sort of reincarnation for Rava and she would fuse with Korra and so she would "die", so idk if I'm happy with her going back just like that. But I didn't think her being such a powerful spirit surprising at all, maybe if they had developed her more in the previous episodes/first season and was more than just comical relief with her siblings it would have been better, but she's just OP  .
The mazinger z final fight was okay, but I agree with the rest that the fight was underwhelming compared to how Aang used bending specially when he used Rava's powers. Throughout the whole thing Korra's bending has been a tad underwhelming, it felt like Aang was way more powerful and "creative" I guess with bending than Korra is, which is ironic since she's all I'M GOING TO BEND YOUR BUTT OFF, COME AND GET ME BITCH!, While Aang was quite peaceful and didn't have that "violent" nature lol. Good stuff, I have to say I was a tad emotional during the last couple of episodes D:, I had this feeling of like "Omg this is so inspiring, Korra can do anything :D" /watery eyes. Good good.
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Jinora's actions at the end were not well explained, but it seems what she did was find the pieces of Raava that were scattered in the spirit world and then brought them to Vaatu and Korra since Raava can never truly be destroyed. The pieces then reformed to reincarnate Raava inside Vaatu so now this time Korra could actually pull Raava out of Vaatu. This could possibly imply Vaatu will be reborn inside Raava in the future.
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On November 17 2013 01:57 BlackMagister wrote:
Jinora's actions at the end were not well explained, but it seems what she did was find the pieces of Raava that were scattered in the spirit world and then brought them to Vaatu and Korra since Raava can never truly be destroyed. The pieces then reformed to reincarnate Raava inside Vaatu so now this time Korra could actually pull Raava out of Vaatu. This could possibly imply Vaatu will be reborn inside Raava in the future.
My thought was that she got the teapot that Iroh was holding on to, since he mentioned that a part of Raava was still in the pot.
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I enjoyed season 1 a lot more then season 2, but I still enjoyed season 2. I am kind of glad this spirit stuff is done with though (at least I hope).
Hoping season 3 can bring something really cool. I feel like season 1's plot was actually really well done (for the most part) and hope they bring that back in season 3.
Also really glad mako/korra are done, personally hoping bolin and korra get together more so then mako/korra. Looking forward to season 3 :D
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How are they gonna one up THAT in season 3 and 4 now.
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How could Korra think that leaving the spirit portal open is a good thing? Koh is gonna come back and steal everyone's faces, fog spirit is going to drive entire towns insane, weasel-spirit is going to turn anyone that hunts meat into a furry, then the lion turtles will have to save everyone's asses again.
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I thought it was really good. I was pretty excited and I liked the conclusion to Tenzin's internal fight. I also liked how the gang came back together again. Nothing will ever compare to the gaang but there was some serious chemistry missing from the characters and I think that was due to how they were never all together like in the 1st season. The fight between giant unalaqq and giant korra was strange, all I could think of was pacific rim, but I still liked it.
Jinora was kind of out of nowhere, but at the same time so was Amon being Noatak in the last time. People were extremely pissed about last season and if we look at comments in the past few pages people seem to have forgotten how much hate it received.
I liked seeing Zhao in the mist as well, all in all it ended much stronger than the season began.
As always Eska was glorious
And fuck, no more Aang flashbacks!!! qq
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On November 17 2013 08:02 Warri wrote:
How are they gonna one up THAT in season 3 and 4 now.
It's heavily implied that there will be a problem with Vaatu again. He wasn't sealed, he was destroyed. This means that he will grow inside Korra again since the destruction of either spirit is always temporary.
So either
A) She has to fight the evil growing within her, and seal him for real
or
B) This is a new aspect of the Avatar, and all Avatars henceforth must overcome the evil inside them and suppress it all their lives in some way
On November 17 2013 08:33 iamho wrote:
How could Korra think that leaving the spirit portal open is a good thing? Koh is gonna come back and steal everyone's faces, fog spirit is going to drive entire towns insane, weasel-spirit is going to turn anyone that hunts meat into a furry, then the lion turtles will have to save everyone's asses again.
The light spirits are the majority in the world now, just like how the dark spirits were the majority when Raava was temporarily defeated.
This means that predominantly friendly spirits will be seen, and that dark spirits will have to come from some source of "bad energy" such as human emotions which can transform spirits.
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Eh... I am mostly very disappointed with this entire season and with the show as a whole. I get that it's a kids' show, but a lot of adults have come to enjoy it since ATLA and come on, kids are smart nowadays, we can expect some tangible plots with actual story lines and relevant solutions to all the problems. This however... I don't even know where to begin. The background story is good (the whole Raava / Vaatu, even though Vaatu is a really, really, really painful and rather laughable villain - whenever he speaks he just loses all credibility) and I liked the idea of a dark Avatar too. The execution sucked though. Giant Avatars? I felt like I was watching Power Rangers back in 1997.
Anyway... Deus ex jinora indeed, much like the lion turtle in ATLA, it's just too easy, although I guess it is forgivable for a kid's show. The whole Jinora plot was worked from the beginning, but overall lacked real depth and development, it was just there. I still think it's a decent idea though.
The last two episodes did make me feel sad and worried though, so they must have done a good job, but there really are a lot of drawbacks. Mako/Korra love story line, FINALLY over but my oh so painful. Lin being completely ridiculous (like, really), she's become completely irrelevant, it hurts to see. Varrick's plot is discovered, solved, forgiven and forgotten in about 3 minutes. In the end, we never even knew why he wanted a big war (although common sense suggests it was for profit), but still.. his conspiracy was just revealed and that was it. It felt flat.
Bumi made me cringe and I seriously hate the character. I really really do. I mean, the man is supposed to be a renowned general, no? He's been nothing but a buffoon since he came on screen, acting goofy even when "fighting" against a dark spirit, and then he's just the guy who saves everyone totally as a fluke without showing any real skill a commander should have. Ezka and Dezka forget about their father in a flash too, rather awkward after they stayed loyal to him for so long, even after he was showing real crazy evilness (I honestly though we would see them turn on him much sooner because of the Dezka being knocked out during their attempt at opening the portal thing).
Bolin was never a truly interesting character, but he's become very shallow over the season. Just comic relief and nothing else. Eh.. I don't feel like I need to go on, most characters have lost their depth and the only ones who made any real progress are Tenzin and his daughter, and on some level Korra.
The ending was okay nonetheless, although the whole season left a very bitter taste. I don't mind the decision to leave the portals open - it opens up a lot of potential plots and I like the idea of more interactions between humans and spirits. If Koh does decide to go eat faces in Republic City, it'll make a great story. In any case, since this heavily implies we will see more spirits (a lot more), I hope they turn out to be more than one dimensional ghosts that are either good or evil depending on the influence around them. Spirits like Koh, Wan Shi Tong (in ATLA anyway.. in LoK he's kind of no comment) and Hei Bai are pretty interesting and walk a line more grey than black or white.
To me, it is clear now that LoK doesn't hold up to ATLA at all, and although ATLA did have its flaws (lack of development of Ozai being the biggest, along with deus ex lion turle), it had much, much more character depth and was just on a much higher level as a show. I'll keep watching, as it is entertaining and does provide some good emotions from time to time, but I won't hold my expectations as high as I did until now.
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Also if they wanted to include Aang did they really need to get him to do his lines when he was constipated.
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Gah. Now more disappointed Nickeloneon didn't do a proper season 1. That season had some really really juicy things set up.
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I hated the LoK ending. It contained many things which didn't make sense or appeared out of nowhere with little (to no motivation). For instance, Korra becoming a giant light spirit or when Jinora magically appeared to swing the balance in Korra's favour. And the final message of the 'power is yours' or 'just be yourself'... pahlease, that belongs in an episode of Captain Planet.
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I can't believe they literally did go the "dark avatar" route. And unalaq who originally seemed very cunning and intelligent ended up being a complete and utter moron. If he read so much about the past, he would know that vaatu is the DARK spirit. The one who wishes to destroy the whole world. Like does he think "balance" = utterly desolate world where only spirits could survive because there is no way a mortal could live there anymore? It makes no real logical sense unless he's a fucking moron.
Like at least Ozai in TLA had a real reason and purpose. He wanted to rule the entire world....so he did everything in his power to do so. The air nomads were wiped out, they went to conquer the north pole with nearly the entire fleet, and they were going to burn the earth nation to the ground.
But on LoK Unalaq is like "lololol, balance, better ally the embodiment of evil spirit because that's obviously what balance means." Because if you have a "light avatar" obviously you need to destroy it with a "dark avatar" to make "balance." Okay.....
Sigh. Wan's story was probably the only good part of the season for me.
I even rewatched TLA to make sure it wasn't just noatalgia. It wasn't. The plots made more sense and were just more complex and captivating than "lolol dark avatar restoring balance."
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Okay, just watched episode 11 and 12. Anyone know where I can find 13 and 14? The Nickelodeon website doesn't seem to have it any more...
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I just thought of something though.
Most people think (with good reason, I think) that Vaatu is going to grow inside Raava (read: inside the Avatar) until the next Harmonic Convergence. However, if the Avatar is killed during the Avatar State, the cycle is broken and the Avatar ceases to exist. Unalaq was basically killed in the Avatar State, so what does it mean?
I think it's likely they will just retcon that if they want to tell the story of Vaatu again, but it's just an interesting fact to consider.
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On November 18 2013 00:33 Spaylz wrote:
I just thought of something though.
Most people think (with good reason, I think) that Vaatu is going to grow inside Raava (read: inside the Avatar) until the next Harmonic Convergence. However, if the Avatar is killed during the Avatar State, the cycle is broken and the Avatar ceases to exist. Unalaq was basically killed in the Avatar State, so what does it mean?
I think it's likely they will just retcon that if they want to tell the story of Vaatu again, but it's just an interesting fact to consider.
What they mean is, if killed during avatar state, raava would die and the cycle would be broken (and the avatar ceases to exist because he dead). And that did happen, raava died, just not during avatar state (thus the avatar didnt cease to exist), but the cycle did get broken. Korra even says that the cycle has ended. It didnt say anything about a new cycle though.
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I think my biggest complaint about the season is just how much time they wasted. It was absolutely ridiculous. It took them forever to get the plot gears into place, this is basic stuff.
- Basically all the time spent on south pole related stuff: wasted.
- An entire episode (the guide): wasted.
- Korra being a complete nut for the entire first half of the season: wasted time.
Just soooo much pointless screen time. How about this: instead of spending hours (!) getting everything just right with the civil war thing, have Korra visit Uncle Unalaq in the north. He's spiritual so he trains her, but something's not right. At the same time, he has a massive military buildup going on and it's freaking everyone out, so much so that rumors of a pre-emptive invasion by the other nations are making the rounds. There. You're done. You can get everything rolling and in place in two or three episodes and they might actually be interesting ones. Additionally, you make Varrick's warmongering more interesting since it no longer aligns with the heroes' interests. You can spend the extra time on character development, preferably not people I will never, ever care about like Tonraq.
My second biggest complaint, and it kills me that it isn't the worst thing I can say about this season, is that the characterization and dialogue went to shit. In season one you had things like Korra yelling "you'll never get away with this!" at Tarlokk, but that was ok. In season two there are so many cliche or poorly constructed lines it can be punishing to hear them. "Your father is an evil monster", for example, made me physically wince. There's an upper limit to how good a show can be when it's best lines for a whole season are "all this stress is going to turn old Black Beauty gray" and "I just try to fit the whole thing in my mouth". Those are pretty hilarious, don't get me wrong, but I should not be thinking back on them as highlights, especially given who said them.
Finally, the first half of the season was completely visually uninteresting. Studio mir is fucking fantastic, having them back really made me appreciate how much better they make the show, especially during the fight scenes (finally! some good action)
Having this show take a cliff dive is particularly painful to me because it's what got me in shape. I was literally watching the show thinking "wow Korra is really cool and athletic, I should give that a shot", and I've been gradually working out more and more ever since and I'm now in really good physical condition. It's been awesome, so it really sucks to see my source of inspiration kind of... not be great.
The last two episodes did make me feel sad and worried though, so they must have done a good job, but there really are a lot of drawbacks. Mako/Korra love story line, FINALLY over but my oh so painful. Lin being completely ridiculous (like, really), she's become completely irrelevant, it hurts to see. Varrick's plot is discovered, solved, forgiven and forgotten in about 3 minutes. In the end, we never even knew why he wanted a big war (although common sense suggests it was for profit), but still.. his conspiracy was just revealed and that was it. It felt flat.
The whole amphitheater scene I thought was maybe the highlight of the season. It was so well put together that I'm fine with it concluding the Varrick conspiracy thread.
I can't believe they had Korra forget their breakup, only to end with a "guess this doesn't work" scene that would've made total sense, from a storytelling perspective, if it had occured as soon as she got back to the city. That went absolutely nowhere.
Lin's sidelining is indeed sad. She's one of the best characters in the show.
Bumi made me cringe and I seriously hate the character. I really really do. I mean, the man is supposed to be a renowned general, no? He's been nothing but a buffoon since he came on screen, acting goofy even when "fighting" against a dark spirit, and then he's just the guy who saves everyone totally as a fluke without showing any real skill a commander should have.
What is this?! When we saw him at the end of season one he seemed interesting as a smart guy who could be a contrast to the earnestness of the rest of the cast. The only skill or intelligence we've seen him display is throwing that dagger at the spirit. Everything else is luck and bullshit. I don't understand how he got into a command position with this portrayal.
Bolin was never a truly interesting character, but he's become very shallow over the season. Just comic relief and nothing else. Eh.. I don't feel like I need to go on, most characters have lost their depth and the only ones who made any real progress are Tenzin and his daughter, and on some level Korra.
I think season one Bolin had enormous potential to be interesting, but was just undeveloped. His background would be very easy to make emotionally resonant. Season two Bolin is a completely unrelated guy with even less development. Ok, yes, the movie thing was awesome, and his lines are mostly pretty good, but could we please have that and an interesting Bolin?
To me, it is clear now that LoK doesn't hold up to ATLA at all, and although ATLA did have its flaws (lack of development of Ozai being the biggest, along with deus ex lion turle), it had much, much more character depth and was just on a much higher level as a show. I'll keep watching, as it is entertaining and does provide some good emotions from time to time, but I won't hold my expectations as high as I did until now.
Unless I hear season three is sock popping amazing, I'm not watching it. I really do think season one was too short but otherwise brilliant, but this one has just been too sharp a drop in quality. Can't take it.
I can't believe they literally did go the "dark avatar" route. And unalaq who originally seemed very cunning and intelligent ended up being a complete and utter moron. If he read so much about the past, he would know that vaatu is the DARK spirit. The one who wishes to destroy the whole world. Like does he think "balance" = utterly desolate world where only spirits could survive because there is no way a mortal could live there anymore? It makes no real logical sense unless he's a fucking moron.
Such a fail villain. He turned out to be completely uninteresting, and while Vaatu is cool looking he's not supposed to have any depth so he kind of needs a really fascinating partner to carry a whole season.
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On November 17 2013 23:42 Firebolt145 wrote:
Okay, just watched episode 11 and 12. Anyone know where I can find 13 and 14? The Nickelodeon website doesn't seem to have it any more...
There is a torrent if you google for it. That's how I watched it anyway.
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I basically watched the entire supporting cast of Korra get completely eviscerated before my eyes.
This show was mediocre/average at best. Better than book one but that doesn't say much.
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Started slowly, but after the Wan episode, I was really hooked for the rest of the season. While it was still far from perfect, it was a more enjoyable watch than the first season (which had good ideas too, but so poorly executed).
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